Bowl Prediction Thread

[DU82]

I think Peach and Chik-fil-A are the same bowl. But if you want to rank them both, that is your right and I won't stop you. With them ranked 1-2, you are clearly a fan, and I don't really disagree, though Peach might slide down a bit for me.

Why the big variance between Orange and Citrus? Orange is a subset of Citrus. As one who despises grapefruits I guess I can sort of see your point, but still need clarity. If you want me to be able to sleep tonight and not up pondering this...

I'd have citrus up way higher. And Mayo? A few steps below the next to last one on the list. IT would be below even mutton.

[Phredd3]

Why the big variance between Orange and Citrus? Orange is a subset of Citrus. As one who despises grapefruits I guess I can sort of see your point, but still need clarity. If you want me to be able to sleep tonight and not up pondering this...

Limes are also essential in pie and cocktails, so that's got to counterbalance the grapefruit, and that doesn't even count lemons, which are essential to practically every seafood preparation (plus cocktails).

[Reilly]

1. Peach and Chick-fil-A are the same bowl ... but two separate foods ... so two placements on the list. To my everlasting regret, the Chick-fil-A Bowl did *not* use the Peach name at all the year Duke played in it. A great, semi-iconic bowl name. That Duke technically still has not played in (but maybe sorta has). A friend's kid did catch one of the parachuting-from-the-dome-ceiling "Eat mor Chikin" cows at the beginning of the Texas A&M game.

2. The Citrus and Orange Bowls have both been around a long time. So, when one thinks of the Citrus Bowl, one does not think of an orange -- that would be the Orange Bowl. Would the Citrus Bowl give a bowl of oranges to the champion because orange is, technically, a citrus? To ask the question is to answer it.

3. So, Citrus then gets complicated, if it doesn't include oranges for present purposes. Lime is the savior (I use a lime whenever a cocktail calls for a lemon, too) ... and grapefruit is the badness that comes immediately to my mind when I hear Citrus. Something so complicated and requiring so much thought or explanation is already lower tier. "Hey, want a peach?" Easy to answer. "Hey, want some citrus?" "Eh ... "

4. And what started all of this is BigWayne noting the nonsensical Cheez-It Citrus name ... double food name there along with Chik-fil-A Peach (yes, I realize Chik-fil-A is actually a company name and not the name of any specific food, but you'd understand if someone asked if you wanted some Chik-fil-A (and you'd probably say 'yes')).

5. Sugar, potatoes, and mayo are too staple-y. Not interesting enough. Probably get eaten more than all of the other bowl name foods combined, but just sorta there.

6. And I notice nobody has come to the defense of Cheez-Its. I can sorta see how little kids like goldfish crackers (and even then, they get old quickly) but Cheez-Its ... no.

[ArkieDukie]

I usually find your posts to be too pessimistic and grim, but I think this is a reasonable question.

I’ve had the same thought.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Right...seems to me like McMurphy didn't do his homework here, as I think it highly unlikely that the Gasparilla Bowl (insert eye roll here) folks would want to duplicate that bowl matchup from last year.

oh it's far more ironic than that. Last year UCF lost a lot of players pre bowl...if I recall...

[DU82]

Right...seems to me like McMurphy didn't do his homework here, as I think it highly unlikely that the Gasparilla Bowl (insert eye roll here) folks would want to duplicate that bowl matchup from last year.

Homework? The Gasparilla Bowl has an ACC-AAC matchup. Not an ACC-Big12 one.

[ArkieDukie]

1. Peach and Chick-fil-A are the same bowl ... but two separate foods ... so two placements on the list. To my everlasting regret, the Chick-fil-A Bowl did *not* use the Peach name at all the year Duke played in it. A great, semi-iconic bowl name. That Duke technically still has not played in (but maybe sorta has). A friend's kid did catch one of the parachuting-from-the-dome-ceiling "Eat mor Chikin" cows at the beginning of the Texas A&M game.

2. The Citrus and Orange Bowls have both been around a long time. So, when one thinks of the Citrus Bowl, one does not think of an orange -- that would be the Orange Bowl. Would the Citrus Bowl give a bowl of oranges to the champion because orange is, technically, a citrus? To ask the question is to answer it.

3. So, Citrus then gets complicated, if it doesn't include oranges for present purposes. Lime is the savior (I use a lime whenever a cocktail calls for a lemon, too) ... and grapefruit is the badness that comes immediately to my mind when I hear Citrus. Something so complicated and requiring so much thought or explanation is already lower tier. "Hey, want a peach?" Easy to answer. "Hey, want some citrus?" "Eh ... "

4. And what started all of this is BigWayne noting the nonsensical Cheez-It Citrus name ... double food name there along with Chik-fil-A Peach (yes, I realize Chik-fil-A is actually a company name and not the name of any specific food, but you'd understand if someone asked if you wanted some Chik-fil-A (and you'd probably say 'yes')).

5. Sugar, potatoes, and mayo are too staple-y. Not interesting enough. Probably get eaten more than all of the other bowl name foods combined, but just sorta there.

6. And I notice nobody has come to the defense of Cheez-Its. I can sorta see how little kids like goldfish crackers (and even then, they get old quickly) but Cheez-Its ... no.

I feel compelled to point out that this is the DUKE’S MAYO bowl, not just regular mayo. There’s a difference. For example, my cousin has an excellent pimiento cheese recipe, and she specifies that it must be made with Duke’s mayo. Nothing else will do.

Okay, back to the regularly scheduled speculation. I really would rather not see Kentucky as our opponent.

[Reilly]

... my cousin has an excellent pimiento cheese recipe, and she specifies that it must be made with Duke’s mayo. Nothing else will do ...

Literally true: I got my pimento cheese recipe from my cousin as well; she did not specify a particular type of mayo, but did specify that the sharp cheddar had to be purchased from a particular dairy (I think it was a Mennonite one about 200 miles from where I live).

[BigWayne]

I feel compelled to point out that this is the DUKE’S MAYO bowl, not just regular mayo. There’s a difference. For example, my cousin has an excellent pimiento cheese recipe, and she specifies that it must be made with Duke’s mayo. Nothing else will do.

Okay, back to the regularly scheduled speculation. I really would rather not see Kentucky as our opponent.

Duke's Mayo not really available where I live, so I have to get it shipped in. We save it for uses where you are tasting it directly and use other more accessible mayos when combined in recipes.

[ArkieDukie]

Literally true: I got my pimento cheese recipe from my cousin as well; she did not specify a particular type of mayo, but did specify that the sharp cheddar had to be purchased from a particular dairy (I think it was a Mennonite one about 200 miles from where I live).

Ooh - if you couple your cousin’s sharp cheddar with Duke’s mayo, I bet you’d take her recipe up a notch.

[FosterCoachK82]

6. And I notice nobody has come to the defense of Cheez-Its. I can sorta see how little kids like goldfish crackers (and even then, they get old quickly) but Cheez-Its ... no.

I have to agree about Cheez-its. They are so boring. Cheese Nips were a far superior cheese snack. The conquest of Cheese Nips by Cheez-its is the best example I know of the vacuousness of American culture.

[sagegrouse]

I have to agree about Cheez-its. They are so boring. Cheese Nips were a far superior cheese snack. The conquest of Cheese Nips by Cheez-its is the best example I know of the vacuousness of American culture.

I remember Cheez-Its from, well, I won't say. Korean Warm Cheeze-Nips? Hunh?

[wilson]

...6. And I notice nobody has come to the defense of Cheez-Its. I can sorta see how little kids like goldfish crackers (and even then, they get old quickly) but Cheez-Its ... no.

REPORTED.
I am a Cheez-It enthusiast.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I have to agree about Cheez-its. They are so boring. Cheese Nips were a far superior cheese snack. The conquest of Cheese Nips by Cheez-its is the best example I know of the vacuousness of American culture.

Kind of like Texas A and M more or less vanquishing Duke football hopes?

And let's face it, with the news of Elko and now Riley Leonard, the disturbance in the force felt by some two years ago...is now undeniable. I really like about 4 of the names on Nina's coaching search. I like Grayson Loftis's future potential. But I don't think any of it matters anymore. I may be wrong, because I never thought we'd have the two years we've just had. But my spidy senses are saying "stick a spork in us, we're done..."

and I can only infer from all the snack food convo....that some agree with that...

[wilson]

I have to agree about Cheez-its. They are so boring. Cheese Nips were a far superior cheese snack. The conquest of Cheese Nips by Cheez-its is the best example I know of the vacuousness of American culture.

I'm calling the police.

[blazindw]

REPORTED.
I am a Cheez-It enthusiast.

Same here. I don't appreciate the Cheez-It slander on here! I'll eat a Cheez-It box in one sitting and be perfectly happy about it, haha.

Back to actual bowl placement, it was already questionable for Riley Leonard to be back in time for the bowl game anyway, so I'm hoping that bowl committees who were looking at Duke before all this, like Duke's Mayo, were looking at the promising development of Grayson Loftis and some of the other guys on the team as reasons to bring in Duke, not looking at the departures as an excuse to not extend us the bid.

[duke2x]

Back to actual bowl placement, it was already questionable for Riley Leonard to be back in time for the bowl game anyway, so I'm hoping that bowl committees who were looking at Duke before all this, like Duke's Mayo, were looking at the promising development of Grayson Loftis and some of the other guys on the team as reasons to bring in Duke, not looking at the departures as an excuse to not extend us the bid.

Coaching changes are the fastest way to end up at the bottom of the pecking order. For discussion purposes, I'm going to look at the 2 bowls mentioned by the press and 2 AAC games.

Charlotte - While I think Duke would have been a strong candidate before the exodus, I can see them taking VT or GT instead. Both are regional and had 4-4 or 5-3 ACC records. GT has never been there. Also note, however, that bowl reps were at the Pitt game, which I'm not sure was a positive with the crowd.
NYC - Will take an out of region team. Syracuse just went there. VT, GT, or Duke. Note that VT-Rutgers would be a rematch.
Annapolis - Duke just went here, and the AAC team is likely to be a non-regional private school like Rice. VT, GT, or Syracuse. Duke over BC if you keep reading.
Boston - Given this bowl had 2 city schools that were unlikely to travel, BC has to be the favorite over Syracuse. I suspect the ACC office will push a regional school for $ reasons. A non-regional private AAC school is the likely opponent. Duke by default.

If NYC gets Rutgers or Charlotte gets Auburn, the opponent's attendance does not matter as much. GT-Auburn is an old SEC rivalry that would motivate both fans to travel to Charlotte at 6-6 compared to Duke-Auburn.

[blazindw]

Coaching changes are the fastest way to end up at the bottom of the pecking order. For discussion purposes, I'm going to look at the 2 bowls mentioned by the press and 2 AAC games.

Charlotte - While I think Duke would have been a strong candidate before the exodus, I can see them taking VT or GT instead. Both are regional and had 4-4 or 5-3 ACC records. GT has never been there. Also note, however, that bowl reps were at the Pitt game, which I'm not sure was a positive with the crowd.
NYC - Will take an out of region team. Syracuse just went there. VT, GT, or Duke. Note that VT-Rutgers would be a rematch.
Annapolis - Duke just went here, and the AAC team is likely to be a non-regional private school like Rice. VT, GT, or Syracuse. Duke over BC if you keep reading.
Boston - Given this bowl had 2 city schools that were unlikely to travel, BC has to be the favorite over Syracuse. I suspect the ACC office will push a regional school for $ reasons. A non-regional private AAC school is the likely opponent. Duke by default.

If NYC gets Rutgers or Charlotte gets Auburn, the opponent's attendance does not matter as much. GT-Auburn is an old SEC rivalry that would motivate both fans to travel to Charlotte at 6-6 compared to Duke-Auburn.

The Gasparilla Bowl is one of the lowest bowls on the ACC tie-in list, but if they can get to Tampa a couple days before Xmas, I'd prefer that over going to Fenway (sorry Dev11) or the Bronx. Still, I'll follow the team wherever they end up, but want these players to get the best bowl possible and a chance for them to end the season on a positive note.

[duke2x]

The Gasparilla Bowl is one of the lowest bowls on the ACC tie-in list, but if they can get to Tampa a couple days before Xmas, I'd prefer that over going to Fenway (sorry Dev11) or the Bronx. Still, I'll follow the team wherever they end up, but want these players to get the best bowl possible and a chance for them to end the season on a positive note.

Just for reference, Duke exams end officially on 12/18, and that game is 12/22. I'm not sure how the pecking order for contingent spots works, but Birmingham is during bowl week. I can make arguments both ways for Tampa, but the argument for it is to end the season ASAP.

[blazindw]

Just for reference, Duke exams end officially on 12/18, and that game is 12/22. I'm not sure how the pecking order for contingent spots works, but Birmingham is during bowl week. I can make arguments both ways for Tampa, but the argument for it is to end the season ASAP.

Yeah, if they draw the Gasparilla or Birmingham Bowl, arrangements will be made for players to get their finals done in plenty of time. They usually head to the bowl site a few days before to take part in some of the mandatory bowl festivities that the teams do to promote the game, but I'm not concerned about our players' abilities to get all their schoolwork done in time.