2024 U.S. Presidential election

[MarkD83]

I don't think this is accurate unless they are all going to be primaried from the right. I don't see that being very likely. This could be a real problem for those Republicans who are in districts that Biden won. But they were going to be in much more trouble at the general election level if they were part of the government shutdown.

This does lead to the discussion about how strong is the MAGA wing of the GOP. There could be 127 republicans (or a significant portion of them) that are more worried about the general election then being primaried (as evidenced by their vote for the CR).

[MarkD83]

This does lead to the discussion about how strong is the MAGA wing of the GOP. There could be 127 republicans (or a significant portion of them) that are more worried about the general election then being primaried (as evidenced by their vote for the CR).

And this adds some credence to the question about the strength of the MAGA wing...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop...160104743.html

House GOP members seek to expel Gaetz amid renewed threat to vacate House Speaker McCarthy

[dudog84]

And this adds some credence to the question about the strength of the MAGA wing...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop...160104743.html

House GOP members seek to expel Gaetz amid renewed threat to vacate House Speaker McCarthy

Hard to believe. It will split the GOP even more, and will be interesting to see how Trump reacts. Gaetz has been one of his staunchest defenders.

[PackMan97]

DeSantis is helping Biden defend his economic record on inflation:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/...b08c7d0c6e7a01

For those not entrenched, this is a pretty effective campaign ad. It's also only 20 seconds long, which is important in today's world.

LOL!

So I guess he's moved on from Bidenomics is great to "blame the guy before me"?

[Skydog]

LOL!

So I guess he's moved on from Bidenomics is great to "blame the guy before me"?

Or maybe Joe’s people think GOP voters are more likely to hear the fact that Trump ran up a trillion dollar deficit during 5% unemployment — by far the largest non-recession deficit in history— if it comes out of the mouth of a Republican?

[Bostondevil]

LOL!

So I guess he's moved on from Bidenomics is great to "blame the guy before me"?

Except DeSantis is the one blaming the last guy.

[bluedevilwildcats]

Just discovered this thread, how fun. Would be more fun if we had some MAGA posters...

I imagine it's been discussed but what are folks' thoughts on Biden running for a 2nd term? Polls show that a majority of Dem voters want someone else. I'm firmly in that camp...

[-jk]

Just discovered this thread, how fun. Would be more fun if we had some MAGA posters...

I imagine it's been discussed but what are folks' thoughts on Biden running for a 2nd term? Polls show that a majority of Dem voters want someone else. I'm firmly in that camp...

Please read the first post in this thread before participating any more.

-jk

[Skydog]

Just discovered this thread, how fun. Would be more fun if we had some MAGA posters...

I imagine it's been discussed but what are folks' thoughts on Biden running for a 2nd term? Polls show that a majority of Dem voters want someone else. I'm firmly in that camp...

bluedevilwildcats meet Pacman97 and several others.

Oh, wait - I don’t know anyone’s preference. My bad.

[dudog84]

Just discovered this thread, how fun. Would be more fun if we had some MAGA posters...

I imagine it's been discussed but what are folks' thoughts on Biden running for a 2nd term? Polls show that a majority of Dem voters want someone else. I'm firmly in that camp...

It's kinda incumbent (HA!) on newbies to catch up, not for everyone else to rehash old posts and do it for them.

[cato]

Yet another group that is aging without replacing.

Aging without replacing but might be enough (among other things) to deliver Trump a second term.

[PackMan97]

Or maybe Joe’s people think GOP voters are more likely to hear the fact that Trump ran up a trillion dollar deficit during 5% unemployment — by far the largest non-recession deficit in history— if it comes out of the mouth of a Republican?

Technically there was a Covid recession and much of that $7 trillion was direct pandemic assistance.

Ugh! I need to go take a shower now.

[PackMan97]

Pacman97

PACK... IT'S P-A-C-K as in WOLFPACK!

You just got yourself officialy off my Christmas card list!

[jacone21]

PACK... IT'S P-A-C-K as in WOLFPACK!

You just got yourself officialy off my Christmas card list!

So you're ghosting him?

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

So you're ghosting him?

Past or future?

[PackMan97]

Past or future?

Well he certainly isn't getting the present from me. /smdh

[Skydog]

Technically there was a Covid recession and much of that $7 trillion was direct pandemic assistance.

Ugh! I need to go take a shower now.

Sorry about the typo PacKMan and disappointed about my Xmas present!
I was actually referring to the 1 trillion deficit in 2019, which was during a booming economy and didn’t include Covid spending.

[PackMan97]

Sorry about the typo PacKMan and disappointed about my Xmas present!
I was actually referring to the 1 trillion deficit in 2019, which was during a booming economy and didn’t include Covid spending.

It's a LOWERCASE 'k' and you must have the 97 attached to it. You may use PM97 as that is an accepted diminutive form of my username.

Gotcha. So, ding Trump for the difference in budget deficit from Obama's last budget projection and the actual deficit? Sure...no problem there. Trump was never a fiscal conservative. I'm not even sure there is a place for fiscal conservatives in either party right now.

[Phredd3]

I'm not even sure there is a place for fiscal conservatives in either party right now.

Absolutely there's a place for them. We discover them every time fiscal conservatism is politically expedient.


Oh, you meant SINCERE fiscal conservatives...

[ClemmonsDevil]

Sorry about the typo PacKMan and disappointed about my Xmas present!
I was actually referring to the 1 trillion deficit in 2019, which was during a booming economy and didn’t include Covid spending.

This gets into something politically that is very advantageous for Republicans. Democrats like spending. Now they don't always like spending in ways that Republican administrations spend, but they can't figure out exactly how to pop the Republicans over this spending in a way that Republicans can't counter.

The huge Trump tax cuts never had a chance to lower the deficit. There was no possibility that we were going to experience 5% growth, which is what it would have taken to offset the forfeited revenues from the tax cuts. But this is such a winning strategy for Republicans and is one of the reasons voters trust Republicans more than they trust Democrats on the economy. Democrats just can't elucidate a very good argument beyond "trickle down economics doesn't work". And trickle down economics doesn't work, but Democrats have never been able to explain how and why. It just ends up sounding like Republicans like to cut taxes and Democrats like to raise them.

The media plays a big role in this. Americans think that Republicans are better with the economy than Democrats because that's what the American public constantly hears. And this is a real failure of the Democratic party. In my voting lifetime they have never been able to counter that narrative. Despite having lots of counters. They just can never find footing on the issue.