MBB: Duke 75, Va Tech 78 Post-Game Thread

[JBDuke]

Put your post-game thoughts here. Remember, no venting or bashing.

[bshrader]

Expected.

[CDu]

Played hard. Scored incredibly well. Unfortunately the defense wasn’t good enough in the first half.

Still, we had our chances. Tough loss.

Great night from Flip. Just needed a couple of more stops in the first half.

[simplyluvin]

We had a chance, and we saw progress with this team. I loved how we dug deep but just couldn't hit some key free throws and a wide open three at the end.

Sending prayers for Whitehead. Losing him for any length of time will be tough.

[Wander]

Punch/elbow to the throat is not a foul. Taking a foul is a flop/technical free throw. OK.

[CDu]

Punch/elbow to the throat is not a foul. Taking a foul is a flop/technical free throw. OK.

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

[WHOneedsSOX]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

Ok so no flagrant but no foul at all? Most fouls are accidental, should they just complain they were celebrating after them? Dead ball foul, something should be called.

[Bull City Proud]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

Imagine if Grayson or Laettner did the same thing ?

[jipops]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

Completely agree. I actually would have been furious if they had called a flagrant. It would have been the entire reason for a Duke win.

If Duke plays half decent defense on that play and gets a stop none of this matters. The team that deserved the win, won. Period.

[arnie]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

No, if a Duke player threw that punch, I and the rest of the country would expect a foul to be called.

[weezie]

No, if a Duke player threw that punch, I and the rest of the country would expect a foul to be called.

You can bet your keister on that.

[cbarry]

No, if a Duke player threw that punch, I and the rest of the country would expect a foul to be called.

100% right.

[iragsdale]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

My understanding is that it does not matter if it is inadvertent. I just downloaded the official rules from the NCAA. This appears to be the relevant section:

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[lotusland]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

I guess I don’t understand flagrant calls. That wasn’t a basketball move. They call celebratory technicals for taunting, not that it matters. It seemed egregious that it wasn’t a flagrant to me. I’m a bit naive I guess but I just feel strongly that, if you’re throwing an air punch, it’s your responsibility to insure the someone’s head isn’t in the way.

[SouthernDukie]

I guess I don’t understand flagrant calls. That wasn’t a basketball move. They call celebratory technicals for taunting, not that it matters. It seemed egregious that it wasn’t a flagrant to me. I’m a bit naive I guess but I just feel strongly that, if you’re throwing an air punch, it’s your responsibility to insure the someone’s head isn’t in the way.

Stop making so much sense.

[UrinalCake]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

The most ridiculous flagrant ever? Vernon Carey got T'ed up for shouting after a dunk. Guys get T'ed up for inadvertent contact all the time.

The only reason they didn't call it is the timing of when it happened. Had there been 10 minutes left in the game I guarantee it gets called.

[flyingdutchdevil]

The most ridiculous flagrant ever? Vernon Carey got T'ed up for shouting after a dunk. Guys get T'ed up for inadvertent contact all the time.

The only reason they didn't call it is the timing of when it happened. Had there been 10 minutes left in the game I guarantee it gets called.

Yeah. That feels right to me.

It was 100% a foul, and I'd argue it was a flagrant.

Flip got punched in the throat on a non-basketball play. He was just standing there. I mean, it's basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ct68JZKsZ8

[kshepinthehouse]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

Greg Paulus did this one time

[Owen Meany]

Greg Paulus did this one time

2006 ACC championship Duke vs BC. That "punch" was much less severe (from the side, just below the chest, Paulus was pushed into the BC player) and yes, a foul was called after review.

The review tonight was the quickest I can remember.

[ScreechTDX1847]

That would have been the most ridiculous flagrant call ever. DBR would have gone apoplectic if a Duke player got called for a flagrant on something like that.

It sucks, but it was totally inadvertent.

It absolutely was inadvertent but I was under the impression that intent did not matter when making forcible contact to the head/face? I've seen that F1 called a million times when a player flails their arms in a double team and makes inadvertent contact to the head.