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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilHorse View Post
    We are in the meat of the KYD Trail. This week and next weekend (Santa Anita Derby, Wood Memorial, Blue Grass) are the big prelim races. But for this week we have the Florida Derby and the Arkansas Derby. The KYD is 5 weeks away.

    In Arkansas this Saturday is the Arkansas Derby:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 1, 2023; Oaklawn Park - Race 12; PPs ]
    This traditionally big race is coming in a bit light; Rocket Can, winner of Holy Bull Stakes, has defected to next weekend's Blue Grass.
    Angel Of Empire, Reincarnate, and Red Route One look like the contenders.

    At Gulfstream Park is the Florida Derby:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 1, 2023; Gulfstream Park - Race 14; PPs ]
    Forte' makes his last start before the KYD and will be the heavy favorite. Starting from the 11 post is a small issue, but he will be carrying Irad Ortiz. Fort Bragg has been searching the country for a soft spot to pick up KYD points; we'll see what the Baffert refugee can do. It's put up or shut up time for these 3YOs.

    For the fillies, in Arkansas is the Fantasy Stakes
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 1, 2023; Oaklawn Park - Race 10; PPs ]
    Wet Paint and Condensation are highly regarded. These two were the exacta in the more recent Honeybee Stakes, but that was on a sloppy track. The weather actually looks good (at this time) for Saturday, although thursday and friday will see rain.

    In Florida is the Gulfstream Park Oaks:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 1, 2023; Gulfstream Park - Race 12; PPs ]
    Dorth Vader will see if she can stretch out her speed; Atomically has a good chance to hit the board. Both of these fillies are by (now 2nd year sire) Girvin. Miracle also looks primed for a big effort.

    The Kentucky Derby Futures Pool - Iteration 6 is ready:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Thursday March 30, 2023; Ky Derby Future - Race 6; PPs ]
    I'd be surprised if anyone (here) bets this, but I really like seeing all of the PPs together for the likely starters in the KYD. Each of the relevant horses will have one more racing line, but you can pick a few horses and probably watch them race within the next 2 weeks. Caution I would point out, I've seen many horses that already have enough KYD points use their last race as a conditioner and not extend themselves fully. I don't consider this rigging the race, but if a horse has casual workouts and is not given his full spectrum of medication before the race, they might have a dull effort intentionally. If you do your research, and know which trainers do this, then you have an advantage betting. With that said, I would expect horses that need the KYD points to be the ones that hit the board. Except perhaps in the case of Forte'; he has a chance to be a great horse and anything other than a win will hurt his residual (stud) value.

    Here is the latest (often updated) KYD points list:
    https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...cky-derby/2023

    Happy April Fools Day!! (and the first day of baseball).

    Larry
    DevilHorse
    Yours truly is a bit late with output. Thanks to some tornados here in central NJ I was in a blackout for a day and a half. My house is fine, but trees were hanging on the power lines, fallen trees everywhere, and fortunately no loss of life.

    In the Arkansas Derby, Angel Of Empire established himself as a contender:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642321272750088192
    Angel Of Empire received a 94 Beyer for his big sweeping move; very confident.

    In the Florida Derby, Forte' showed why he is the king of the hill:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642300838948290566
    The horse was last and circled the field very wide, and closed on a driving leader. He was awarded a 95 Beyer. He's a big striding colt and will be the KYD favorite.

    In the Fantasy Stakes at Oaklawn Park, Wet Paint showed that she is not dried up:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642292286020284416
    Another powerful last to first winner. She was awarded an 89 Beyer. Pratt getting it done on Angel Of Empire and Wet Paint.

    In the Florida Oaks, Affirmative Lady was a surprise winner:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642279652885426176
    Affirmative Lady had a good trip and was awarded an 81 Beyer.

    Munny's Gold, who ran a 106 Beyer last week for a 7f race, is being talked about in a similar breath to Gamine from 3 years ago. Perhaps a bit premature. I saw that MG might have a minor ailment.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilHorse View Post
    Yours truly is a bit late with output. Thanks to some tornados here in central NJ I was in a blackout for a day and a half. My house is fine, but trees were hanging on the power lines, fallen trees everywhere, and fortunately no loss of life.

    In the Arkansas Derby, Angel Of Empire established himself as a contender:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642321272750088192
    Angel Of Empire received a 94 Beyer for his big sweeping move; very confident.

    In the Florida Derby, Forte' showed why he is the king of the hill:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642300838948290566
    The horse was last and circled the field very wide, and closed on a driving leader. He was awarded a 95 Beyer. He's a big striding colt and will be the KYD favorite.

    In the Fantasy Stakes at Oaklawn Park, Wet Paint showed that she is not dried up:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642292286020284416
    Another powerful last to first winner. She was awarded an 89 Beyer. Pratt getting it done on Angel Of Empire and Wet Paint.

    In the Florida Oaks, Affirmative Lady was a surprise winner:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1642279652885426176
    Affirmative Lady had a good trip and was awarded an 81 Beyer.

    Munny's Gold, who ran a 106 Beyer last week for a 7f race, is being talked about in a similar breath to Gamine from 3 years ago. Perhaps a bit premature. I saw that MG might have a minor ailment.

    Larry
    DevilHorse
    We missed your summary yesterday, but glad everyone is okay. Forte continues to do everything right. He’s going to be a really low odds favorite. It seems favorites have fared better in the Ky Derby over the last few decades. That’s my perception. I didn’t actually research that point. I wish I had been betting him regularly. Better late than never to jump on the bandwagon.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMeDoIt View Post
    We missed your summary yesterday, but glad everyone is okay. Forte continues to do everything right. He’s going to be a really low odds favorite. It seems favorites have fared better in the Ky Derby over the last few decades. That’s my perception. I didn’t actually research that point. I wish I had been betting him regularly. Better late than never to jump on the bandwagon.
    My biggest concern for Forte' is that he could be susceptible to traffic problems in the KYD (with an inside post). Same thing that happened to Risen Star could happen to him.

    Thanks for your concern.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  4. #84
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    Working on my Derby prep. I know we have three big (final) prep races Sat. Usually those that run this weekend are generally trying to get eligible for all 3 races and several would skip the KYD, especially if not in perfect health.
    That being said, methinks 70+% of the field is generally set.

    So, going down the points list, in order, would be:
    1) Forte 190 pts.
    2) Angel of Empire 154 pts.
    3) Two Phil’s 123 pts.
    4) Derma Sotogake 100 pts.
    5) Kingsbarns 100 pts.
    6) Practical Move (running SAD Sat) 60 pts.
    7) Rocket Can 60pts.
    8) Confidence Game 57 pts.
    9) Raise Cain (running BGS or Wood) 54 pts.
    10) Wild on Ice (late addition) 50 pts.
    11) Tapit Trice (running BGS) 50 pts.
    12) Mage 50 pts.
    13) Reincarnate 45 pts.
    14) Jace’s Road 45 pts.
    15) Cyclone Mischief 45 pts.
    16) Major Dude 40 pts.
    17) King Russell (late addition) 40 pts.
    18) Disarm 40 pts.
    19) Sin Thunder (running BGS) 34 pts.
    20) Continuar (Japan) guaranteed 20th post position if decides to run (and if i read correctly)
    21) Red Route One 33 pts.
    22) Instant Coffee 32 pts.

    I went down thru 40th place (Fort Bragg with 15 pts.) just in case.
    Y’all plz feel free to comment at will-I could’ve easily missed something or plenty. Now I try to find most recent Beyer for each horse.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by duketaylor View Post
    Working on my Derby prep. I know we have three big (final) prep races Sat. Usually those that run this weekend are generally trying to get eligible for all 3 races and several would skip the KYD, especially if not in perfect health.
    That being said, methinks 70+% of the field is generally set.

    So, going down the points list, in order, would be:
    1) Forte 190 pts.
    2) Angel of Empire 154 pts.
    3) Two Phil’s 123 pts.
    4) Derma Sotogake 100 pts.
    5) Kingsbarns 100 pts.
    6) Practical Move (running SAD Sat) 60 pts.
    7) Rocket Can 60pts.
    8) Confidence Game 57 pts.
    9) Raise Cain (running BGS or Wood) 54 pts.
    10) Wild on Ice (late addition) 50 pts.
    11) Tapit Trice (running BGS) 50 pts.
    12) Mage 50 pts.
    13) Reincarnate 45 pts.
    14) Jace’s Road 45 pts.
    15) Cyclone Mischief 45 pts.
    16) Major Dude 40 pts.
    17) King Russell (late addition) 40 pts.
    18) Disarm 40 pts.
    19) Sin Thunder (running BGS) 34 pts.
    20) Continuar (Japan) guaranteed 20th post position if decides to run (and if i read correctly)
    21) Red Route One 33 pts.
    22) Instant Coffee 32 pts.

    I went down thru 40th place (Fort Bragg with 15 pts.) just in case.
    Y’all plz feel free to comment at will-I could’ve easily missed something or plenty. Now I try to find most recent Beyer for each horse.
    Thank you for thinking early about what is important.
    The KYD points list is (perhaps rightfully) loaded with recency bias. The more recent races have larger point values. The later races, after this weekend, will be for colts that are desperate for enough points to get in.

    Here is another set of opinions on where things stand now:
    https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne..._57_others_123

    If I was going to pick a horse that might be undervalued by the points rating it might be Tapit Trice. Here's a horse with pedigree to go long and with 4 races under his belt; the average number of starts, based on the latest Future Pool PPs, looks to be about 5 starts. Instant Coffee is also interesting; he's only run once since January and it looked like he needed the race. If he doesn't make the KYD field, he might be dangerous in the Preakness. Of course ratings will vary sharply depending on the next couple of weeks of racing.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilHorse View Post
    My biggest concern for Forte' is that he could be susceptible to traffic problems in the KYD (with an inside post). Same thing that happened to Risen Star could happen to him.

    Thanks for your concern.

    Larry
    DevilHorse
    Curlin also suffered traffic problems early in his KYD. Like Risen Star, he then won the Preakness, the Belmont, and 3YO honors.
    In the stud barn, the paths diverged.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  7. #87
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    I keep seeing that Tapit Trice has all kinds of problems getting outta the gate, as like he’s giving up 4-8 lengths to start a race. Thoughts!

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by duketaylor View Post
    I keep seeing that Tapit Trice has all kinds of problems getting outta the gate, as like he’s giving up 4-8 lengths to start a race. Thoughts!
    I imagine they are working each day on it. But it takes a while for some horses. Sometimes it is a matter of getting the horse to calm down in the gate; if their head is wrong or they are fractious, they will come out late or off balance. It looks like 2 of 4 starts TT had this issue. Interestingly, most horses relax in the gate. The jockey communicates to the horse when to be ready. TT needs to read the memo.

    We'll find out Saturday if he's learned anything.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  9. #89

    It Begins Again - KYD2024

    Friday is going to be the 'start' of the preparations for the 2024 Kentucky Derby.

    It is Keeneland's opening day, and as per tradition there is a 2YO maiden race. Although it is not likely that any of these ponies will be in the gate for KYD2024, it marks the opening of the season that will give us winter book favorites, exciting high ceiling youngsters, and lots of question marks.

    Another question of interest will be which Freshman Sires will make an impact:
    http://www.pedigreegoddess.com/Artic...0of%202023.htm
    Omaha Beach is the most intriguing one since he was DQ'd into the top spot of the KYD, and never ran again.
    Last year Bolt D'oro, Justify, and Good Magic were great producers. This year may not have that level of quality across the top.

    The first 2YO race of the year, at Keeneland:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ URL above; April 7, 2023; Keeneland - Race 1; PPs ]
    Wesley Ward has become notorious/famous for having his 2YOs ready at first asking. Bledsoe looks ready to go. Also a sharp worker is Beaudacious Colton.

    Also on Friday, at Keeneland is the Ashland for 3YOF:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ URL above; April 7, 2023; Keeneland - Race 9; PPs ]
    This is an interesting race because Wonder Wheel will be making her 2nd start; she was not fully sharp at Tampa and we'd like to see a big effort. Hopefully her connections are just being conservative with her and she doesn't have issues. Undefeated Punchbowl and Julia Shining could fill out the trifecta.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  10. #90

    Big Saturday 4/8/2024

    Saturday will have the lion's share of the remaining Triple Crown Prep races. With 4 weeks till the KYD, many horses will need points are get physically prepped.

    In the Bluegrass Stakes at Keeneland:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 8, 2023; Keeneland - Race 9; pps ]
    Tapit Trice has the rail and will likely be the favorite. Verifying looks to be better than the rest.
    Tapit Trice is NOT a front runner; if they choose to send him, to avoid traffic problems it might go against his better skill set. It will be raining today, but clear on Friday and Saturday, so the rail should be good.

    In the Santa Anita Derby, Practical Move will attempt to establish himself as the strong second choice for the KYD (Forte' holding the top spot):
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 8, 2023; Santa Anita Park - Race 6 ; pps ]
    National Treasure and Geaux Rocket Ride will try to make a claim before getting run down in the stretch by Practical Move.
    What? No Bob Baffert entries?
    A curiosity appears for the lines of Mandarin Hero. MH is making his first start in the USA after an interesting early campaign in Japan. Of course you have to keep an eye on this horse because of Japanese connections (they dominated racing in Dubai and Saudi Arabia), but if you look at his lines you will see that this horse has 4 dead heats to win in a row. Of course this is absurd; all of the horses in these races are in the dead heat. Crazy mistake in the PPs.


    At Aqueduct, the Wood Memorial:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 8, 2023; Aqueduct - Race 11 ; pps ]
    Hit Show looks like the class of this field, but he has the 13th post position (way out there). He has shown that he likes this distance, having trounced rivals in the Withers. Slip Mahoney looks like he could do something. Arctic Arrogance has stayed in New York for their triple crown trail and has set pace (much to his detriment). This is a horse whose connections really seem to want it.

    For the 3YO fillies:

    Friday was (will be) the Ashland, but today is the filly races that correspond to the Wood and the Santa Anita Derby:

    At Aqueduct is the Gazelle:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 8, 2023; Aqueduct - Race 3 ; pps ]
    Shidabhuti is undefeated, but her speed figures are not quite as good as the improving Occult. Both of these fillies are trained by Chad Brown.

    At Santa Anita is the eponymous Santa Anita Oaks:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...99/summary.htm
    [ url above; Saturday April 8, 2023; Santa Anita Park - Race 11; pps ]
    Interestingly, Baffert has an entry here. The favorite, Faiza is not eligible to get KYO points if Bob Baffert is training her; so no Kentucky Oaks for this excellent filly. Andtellmenolies looks to fill out the exacta.

    A couple of races worth watching:

    On Saturday at Keeneland is the Madison:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ url above; Saturday April 8, 2023; Keeneland - Race 7; pps ]
    The top 3YO filly sprinter from last year, Goodnight Olive, will be making her seasonal debut.

  11. #91
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    $3 million doesn’t guarantee a winner

    Just watched Baffert’s $3+ mil horse, Hejazi, lose again. This time to a Brad Cox trained horse, Corona Bolt, a $225,000 purchase. Hejazi was assumed to be one of Baffert’s best three year olds. It never gets old watching Baffert’s horses underperform. I guess it’s just harder to win when drug free.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMeDoIt View Post
    Just watched Baffert’s $3+ mil horse, Hejazi, lose again. This time to a Brad Cox trained horse, Corona Bolt, a $225,000 purchase. Hejazi was assumed to be one of Baffert’s best three year olds. It never gets old watching Baffert’s horses underperform. I guess it’s just harder to win when drug free.
    Perhaps 7f is too long for Hejazi:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/keenelandracing/...41225741627404
    Usually I'd give the advantage to the outside horse, but not today.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilHorse View Post
    Friday is going to be the 'start' of the preparations for the 2024 Kentucky Derby.

    It is Keeneland's opening day, and as per tradition there is a 2YO maiden race. Although it is not likely that any of these ponies will be in the gate for KYD2024, it marks the opening of the season that will give us winter book favorites, exciting high ceiling youngsters, and lots of question marks.

    Another question of interest will be which Freshman Sires will make an impact:
    http://www.pedigreegoddess.com/Artic...0of%202023.htm
    Omaha Beach is the most intriguing one since he was DQ'd into the top spot of the KYD, and never ran again.
    Last year Bolt D'oro, Justify, and Good Magic were great producers. This year may not have that level of quality across the top.

    The first 2YO race of the year, at Keeneland:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ URL above; April 7, 2023; Keeneland - Race 1; PPs ]
    Wesley Ward has become notorious/famous for having his 2YOs ready at first asking. Bledsoe looks ready to go. Also a sharp worker is Beaudacious Colton.

    Also on Friday, at Keeneland is the Ashland for 3YOF:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html
    [ URL above; April 7, 2023; Keeneland - Race 9; PPs ]
    This is an interesting race because Wonder Wheel will be making her 2nd start; she was not fully sharp at Tampa and we'd like to see a big effort. Hopefully her connections are just being conservative with her and she doesn't have issues. Undefeated Punchbowl and Julia Shining could fill out the trifecta.

    Larry
    DevilHorse
    For the KYD, Derma Sotogaki (winner of the UAE Derby) is now comfortably stabled at Churchill Downs. Looks like this legit contender will try to conquer that Crossing The Pond bias in the KYD!!

    Bledsoe is the fastest 2YO of the year!!!
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1644387229316558849
    Perhaps he has a future

    Longshot Defining Purpose won the Ashland:
    http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1644453608857956353
    This horse would not have won the KY Oaks with this effort; the extra 1/16 of a mile would have allowed the 2nd place horse to finish closing.
    Nonetheless, early KYO favorite Wonder Wheel does not look like the same horse; she raced greenly (didn't switch leads till late) and didn't seem in shape.
    Could the failure of the favorites be a ploy to peak in 4 weeks? Sire Cross Traffic gets his second Graded stakes winner (anyone remember Jaywalk?).

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  14. #94

    Wow Tapit

    I get a daily list of things that are (statistically) happening in the thoroughbred world.

    A number jumped out at me today. Tapit is the broodmare sire of 28 horses racing today.

    I don't believe I can recall a number that big for either siring, or broodmare siring, for a day.

    Here's some information about Tapit:
    https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...s/card/6106474

    "Tapit is the sire of 540 dams of 1961 named foals of racing age, 1210 rnrs (61%), 798 wnrs (40%), 256 2yo wnrs (13%), 1.47 AEI, 1.39 CI; 64 sw, Leading Earner: ($9,790,257)."

    So out of a potential 540 dams, 5% of those have kids racing today. For animals that may have on average only 10-20 lifetime starts in a lifetime, that is an amazing number. A.P. Indy (Tapit's grandsire) often has the most Broodmare credits on a particular day; perhaps there is something speedy or sturdy about his tribe.

    There are a few horses that have (essentially) saturated their genes [appear somewhere in each horse's pedigree] in the thoroughbred population. Mr. Prospector and Northern Dancer can be found in almost every pedigree. Tapit is well on his way to joining that exclusive club.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

  15. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilHorse View Post
    I get a daily list of things that are (statistically) happening in the thoroughbred world.

    A number jumped out at me today. Tapit is the broodmare sire of 28 horses racing today.

    I don't believe I can recall a number that big for either siring, or broodmare siring, for a day.

    Here's some information about Tapit:
    https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...s/card/6106474

    "Tapit is the sire of 540 dams of 1961 named foals of racing age, 1210 rnrs (61%), 798 wnrs (40%), 256 2yo wnrs (13%), 1.47 AEI, 1.39 CI; 64 sw, Leading Earner: ($9,790,257)."

    So out of a potential 540 dams, 5% of those have kids racing today. For animals that may have on average only 10-20 lifetime starts in a lifetime, that is an amazing number. A.P. Indy (Tapit's grandsire) often has the most Broodmare credits on a particular day; perhaps there is something speedy or sturdy about his tribe.

    There are a few horses that have (essentially) saturated their genes [appear somewhere in each horse's pedigree] in the thoroughbred population. Mr. Prospector and Northern Dancer can be found in almost every pedigree. Tapit is well on his way to joining that exclusive club.

    Larry
    DevilHorse
    It will be interesting to see how Essential Quality does as a stud horse compared to his old man. His stud fee appeared to have been $70,000 last year. So in a couple of years we will see if he has any runners.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMeDoIt View Post
    It will be interesting to see how Essential Quality does as a stud horse compared to his old man. His stud fee appeared to have been $70,000 last year. So in a couple of years we will see if he has any runners.
    Tapit's sons that are better sires are also his better runners (i.e., Tapwrit, Tapizar, Constitution), so why not EQ. EQ has a little more inbred, but nothing severe. But then, a horse breeding expert I know espouses that sires are born, not made.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilHorse View Post
    Tapit's sons that are better sires are also his better runners (i.e., Tapwrit, Tapizar, Constitution), so why not EQ. EQ has a little more inbred, but nothing severe. But then, a horse breeding expert I know espouses that sires are born, not made.

    Larry
    DevilHorse
    What is it with Luis Saez and sons of Tapit, in this case Tapit Thrice. He moved this horse way early, kept him on the far outside. Now an objection. He kept hitting on the right side while his horse is moving left into the other horse. No change.

    I still haven’t forgiven Saez for his ride on Essential Quality in the Derby. I know maybe he was told to stay wide to stay out of trouble. Cox kept riding him on EQ so I’m the novice who doesn’t understand. (That makes me similar to most who post about b-ball on this site.)

    I managed to let time expire so no bet. 8/5 was a fair price based on his last race.

    Pletcher will have the top two and maybe top three horses in the Ky Derby. Is he getting some of the horses that Baffert used to get?

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    Preps today

    So whilst I was awaiting some horse racing I was making peach cobbler for tomorrow and following the Duke debacle at ND in LAX, ugh.

    I checked on post times for the races only to realize the Blue Grass Stakes was about to run. So I scurried to open my tvg account and bet $2 win/place on Tapit Trice, then $15 win/show on same (didn't mean to do the $2 bet, but it was placed, so I let it go). Then I did a trifecta key box with Tapit Trice and boxed the next three faves. Won all of those, so I repeated the same wagers at Santa Anita, hit them as well, tried the same at the Wood, only to have a 59-1 shot nose out the fave. Still, nice quick hour of betting for me. Took my acct from $80 to $300, which now will rest until Derby Day!!

    Happy Easter!!

  19. #99
    Heading to Lexington on the 21st to watch the ponies run! Looking for any inside info to make me look smart when reading the Racing Form

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by duketaylor View Post
    So whilst I was awaiting some horse racing I was making peach cobbler for tomorrow and following the Duke debacle at ND in LAX, ugh.

    I checked on post times for the races only to realize the Blue Grass Stakes was about to run. So I scurried to open my tvg account and bet $2 win/place on Tapit Trice, then $15 win/show on same (didn't mean to do the $2 bet, but it was placed, so I let it go). Then I did a trifecta key box with Tapit Trice and boxed the next three faves. Won all of those, so I repeated the same wagers at Santa Anita, hit them as well, tried the same at the Wood, only to have a 59-1 shot nose out the fave. Still, nice quick hour of betting for me. Took my acct from $80 to $300, which now will rest until Derby Day!!

    Happy Easter!!
    Outstanding!

    I had Tapit Trice and Practical Move. I had the Wood winner too; finishing last.

    Larry
    DevilHorse

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