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  1. #101
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    ESPN: Ranking the NCAA tournament men's basketball coaches as players, 1 to 68

    Will the coaching stars of March Madness 2023's third weekend be serious ex-ballers, or something less than? As history has demonstrated, it doesn't matter. But after the retirement of Coach K and [Jay] Wright, and given [Hubert] Davis' inability to get the Tar Heels back to the Dance, we know the sideline mix at NRG Stadium in Houston on April 1 will bring different origin stories ranging anywhere from "former NBA All-Star" to "never played in high school."
    Former Duke players invade the list this year.

    1. Penny Hardaway, Memphis
    2. Mike Woodson, Indiana
    3. Steve Alford, Nevada
    4. Bobby Hurley, Arizona State
    5. Tony Bennett, Virginia
    6. Bryce Drew, Grand Canyon
    7. Jon Scheyer, Duke
    8. Jeff Capel, Pittsburgh
    9. Chris Collins, Northwestern

    10. Jim Larrañaga, Miami
    14. Dan Hurley, Connecticut
    27. Kenny Blakeney, Howard
    68. Bruce Pearl, Auburn

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    Recount?

    Quote Originally Posted by brevity View Post
    ESPN: Ranking the NCAA tournament men's basketball coaches as players, 1 to 68

    Former Duke players invade the list this year.

    1. Penny Hardaway, Memphis
    2. Mike Woodson, Indiana
    3. Steve Alford, Nevada
    4. Bobby Hurley, Arizona State
    5. Tony Bennett, Virginia
    6. Bryce Drew, Grand Canyon
    7. Jon Scheyer, Duke
    8. Jeff Capel, Pittsburgh
    9. Chris Collins, Northwestern

    10. Jim Larrañaga, Miami
    14. Dan Hurley, Connecticut
    27. Kenny Blakeney, Howard
    68. Bruce Pearl, Auburn
    Alford ahead of Hurley? No way.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by MChambers View Post
    Alford ahead of Hurley? No way.
    Funny — I glossed over the non-Duke names and didn’t really think about the rankings above Hurley, but how many people have a resume that includes: All time NCAA assist leader; 2 time starting point guard for national champion; 3 time starting point guard in the national title game; author of revenge over UNLV after (semi-metaphorically) pooping the bed during his first shot as a Frosh.

    Definitely not Steve Alford. Although I was fully rooting for that Indiana title team after they beat Duke in ‘87.
    Carolina delenda est

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    Quote Originally Posted by MChambers View Post
    Alford ahead of Hurley? No way.
    Well...

    It ain't like Alford was merely a good college player. We are talking about one of the great scoring guards in the history of the sport. We are talking about a dude who scored more than 2400 points while playing for a big-time program that was ranked and in the title hunt much of his time in school. Had there been a 3-point shot for his 4 years, he likely would have been close to 3000 career points. And he was a ridiculous outside shooter, hit better than 50% from 3 his senior year (the first year there was a 3-point shot). We are talking about a dude who wasn't that far down the scoring guard food chain from JJ Redick.

    Alford was the focal point of his team much more than Hurley was (Alford never had teammates anywhere near as good as Laettner or Grant). He had all the offensive pressure on him from day one in a way Hurley did not. And, while Hurley's NCAA tourney success rate was among the best of all-time, Alford did steer Indiana to a national title in his senior year.

    Does that make him better than the leading assist guy in college hoops history? Probably not, but it ain't a huge stretch.

    I'd argue that the bigger sin is having Mike Woodson ahead of both of them. Woodson's pro career was far better than Alford and Hurley (**), but he really wasn't anywhere close to those two on the college level.

    -Jason "**- not sure how we judge Hurley's pro career. If not for the car accident, who knows what would have happened. He and JWill are two potentially great NBA stories that were lost to accident" Evans
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Well...

    It ain't like Alford was merely a good college player. We are talking about one of the great scoring guards in the history of the sport. We are talking about a dude who scored more than 2400 points while playing for a big-time program that was ranked and in the title hunt much of his time in school. Had there been a 3-point shot for his 4 years, he likely would have been close to 3000 career points. And he was a ridiculous outside shooter, hit better than 50% from 3 his senior year (the first year there was a 3-point shot). We are talking about a dude who wasn't that far down the scoring guard food chain from JJ Redick.

    Alford was the focal point of his team much more than Hurley was (Alford never had teammates anywhere near as good as Laettner or Grant). He had all the offensive pressure on him from day one in a way Hurley did not. And, while Hurley's NCAA tourney success rate was among the best of all-time, Alford did steer Indiana to a national title in his senior year.

    Does that make him better than the leading assist guy in college hoops history? Probably not, but it ain't a huge stretch.

    I'd argue that the bigger sin is having Mike Woodson ahead of both of them. Woodson's pro career was far better than Alford and Hurley (**), but he really wasn't anywhere close to those two on the college level.

    -Jason "**- not sure how we judge Hurley's pro career. If not for the car accident, who knows what would have happened. He and JWill are two potentially great NBA stories that were lost to accident" Evans
    Good points all. Would just add that Alford was also a 2x consensus 1st Team All-American (vs 1x for Hurley) and 3x 1st Team All-Big Ten (vs 1x 1st Team, 1x 2nd Team and 1x 3rd Team All-ACC for Hurley).

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    Mike Woodson was a very fine player for Indiana in the late 70's -- between the Scott May championship level teams and the Isiah teams. For his four year career he averaged 18.5 ppg, then 19.9, then 21, then 19.3 ppg. Outstanding scorer. But he was all-Big 10 only once, and his teams never reached a Final Four. He is the 5th leading all-time scorer at Indiana. Very impressive college career, but it doesn't measure up to Bobby Hurley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    Mike Woodson was a very fine player for Indiana in the late 70's -- between the Scott May championship level teams and the Isiah teams. For his four year career he averaged 18.5 ppg, then 19.9, then 21, then 19.3 ppg. Outstanding scorer. But he was all-Big 10 only once, and his teams never reached a Final Four. He is the 5th leading all-time scorer at Indiana. Very impressive college career, but it doesn't measure up to Bobby Hurley.
    He was ranked ahead of Hurley and Alford because he had a considerably better NBA career than either of them.
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    Nice article on Kenny Blakeney from the Washington Post.

    Kenny Blakeney dreamed big, and Howard is turning it into reality

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...enny-blakeney/

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    Ouch. How's this for a headline. From one of your own news outlets, no less.

    Arizona State should fire Bobby Hurley after NCAA Tournament

    It's an interesting read. You can tell the writer has a love/hate relationship with Hurley, but that he's also ready to move on. Personally of course I hope that Bobby wins tonight, and at least once more, and soothes the naysayers. But they're out there.

    Let’s assume you’re the athletic director at Arizona State University, and you’ve got to make a decision about whether to retain your men’s basketball coach, who’s been in place for eight seasons and reached the NCAA Tournament in three of them, kinda.

    We say “kinda” because ASU coach Bobby Hurley has made the “First Four” each time, including this season, where he’s going to take his Sun Devils to Dayton, Ohio, to play Nevada on Wednesday for the right to crusade against TCU in the proper field of 64.

    Making the “First Four” is sort of like getting booked to play a music festival, but your band is on the small stage first thing in the morning. It’s like getting a thousand dollars for your birthday, but you can only spend it at a deli and you’re a vegetarian. It’s like going on a game show and winning a free trip … to see the Lakers or the Dodgers.

    The “First Four” is nice in its own way, but it’s not exactly what you want.
    It goes on to a pretty good in-depth read, with the writer's own internal debate spelled out along the way.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-s...150028642.html
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    Johnny Dawkins and his UCF team demolished Florida in the first round of the NIT tonight, 67-49.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    Bobby’s boys are smoking Nevada right now. Bobby is certainly animated on the sideline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Ouch. How's this for a headline. From one of your own news outlets, no less.

    Arizona State should fire Bobby Hurley after NCAA Tournament

    It's an interesting read. You can tell the writer has a love/hate relationship with Hurley, but that he's also ready to move on. Personally of course I hope that Bobby wins tonight, and at least once more, and soothes the naysayers. But they're out there.



    It goes on to a pretty good in-depth read, with the writer's own internal debate spelled out along the way.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-s...150028642.html
    I think the writer's anti-Hurley comments are a bandwagon fan's type of comments, never remembering what happened before. Arizona State had been a terrible Pac-12 program for years. If Hurley wants to stay there and build, they should feel lucky. Because if they fire him, unless they are going to put out a boatload of money for a coach and better facilities, they will likely slide back to irrelevance, maybe occasionally making the NIT. The thing is, if someone doesn't feel appreciated, they will jump ship when the time is right. Writers like this aren't doing Arizona State any favors (but maybe the writer is a U of A grad. I did a quick check and couldn't figure that out).

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/2017/06/07/who-greg-moore-arizona-republic/377181001/

    9F
    I will never talk about That Game. GTHC.

  13. #113
    Another for the coaching tree - Northwestern and Chris C over Boise 75-67. 4th victory for the coaching tree in the tourney
    Last edited by Hartford Dukie; 03-16-2023 at 09:49 PM.

  14. #114

    Chris Collins wins again! Northwestern moves on to the Second Round

    Northwestern is now 2-0 all time in the 1st round of the NCAA men's basketball tournament.

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    The Tree is now 4-1
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kako View Post
    I think the writer's anti-Hurley comments are a bandwagon fan's type of comments, never remembering what happened before. Arizona State had been a terrible Pac-12 program for years. If Hurley wants to stay there and build, they should feel lucky. Because if they fire him, unless they are going to put out a boatload of money for a coach and better facilities, they will likely slide back to irrelevance, maybe occasionally making the NIT. The thing is, if someone doesn't feel appreciated, they will jump ship when the time is right. Writers like this aren't doing Arizona State any favors (but maybe the writer is a U of A grad. I did a quick check and couldn't figure that out).

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/2017/06/07/who-greg-moore-arizona-republic/377181001/

    9F
    He didn’t make a very compelling case for his conclusion. Beat writers have to write something I guess.

  17. #117

    Bobby Hurley gets an extension at ASU

    For two years through 2025-26. Sounds about right. The close to the season - beating USC in the PAC-12 tourney, laying a beat down on Nevada in the First Four game, and coming within a few seconds of beating TCU in the round of 64 - probably clinched the extension. Feeling is players play hard for him. Has a solid core that can come back and have the potential to have a successful season next year. There is hope that he adds an assistant that helps give the offense more flow and playmaking.

    https://thesundevils.com/news/2023/3...asketball.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartford Dukie View Post
    For two years through 2025-26. Sounds about right. The close to the season - beating USC in the PAC-12 tourney, laying a beat down on Nevada in the First Four game, and coming within a few seconds of beating TCU in the round of 64 - probably clinched the extension. Feeling is players play hard for him. Has a solid core that can come back and have the potential to have a successful season next year. There is hope that he adds an assistant that helps give the offense more flow and playmaking.

    https://thesundevils.com/news/2023/3...asketball.aspx
    The ESPN story on Coach Hurley's contract extension has an interesting tidbit:

    The two sides engaged in contract discussions for most of this past season, sources told ESPN, and while Hurley was linked to multiple jobs during the current coaching carousel, sources said he was only involved with the Georgia Tech opening.
    Not sure why Georgia Tech is obsessed with coaching candidates associated with the state of Arizona, but could you imagine? Bobby Hurley could hire Kenny Anderson (head coach at NAIA's Fisk) and Mark Price (who holds skills camps in the summer) as assistants. The undisputed Point Guard U.

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    Chris Collins wins a national coach of the year award

    https://nusports.com/news/2023/3/30/...-the-year.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by MChambers View Post
    Chris Collins wins a national coach of the year award

    https://nusports.com/news/2023/3/30/...-the-year.aspx
    Northwestern tweeted a video of the school surprising Coach Collins with the announcement that he had won the Jim Phelan Award.

    Much like Kyle Filipowski's Kyle Macy Award for Freshman of the Year, the Jim Phelan Award is awarded by collegeinsider.com. They spread the wealth with 17 different awards. The categories are not always clear. Here are some of them that may be of interest.

    Hugh Durham Award (Mid-Major Coach of the Year): Amir Abdur-Rahim, Kennesaw State
    Kenneth Blakeney was one of 20 finalists for the Hugh Durham Award.

    Joe B. Hall Award (Debut Coach of the Year): Keith Urgo, Fordham
    Jon Scheyer was one of 10 finalists for the Joe B. Hall Award.

    Ben Jobe Award (Minority Head Coach of the Year): Jerry Stackhouse, Vanderbilt
    Kenneth Blakeney and Jeff Capel were among the 20 finalists for the Ben Jobe Award.

    John McLendon Award (Collegiate Coach of the Year, All Divisions): Kenneth Blakeney, Howard

    Jim Phelan Award (Division I Head Coach of the Year): Chris Collins, Northwestern
    Kenneth Blakeney and Jeff Capel were among the 20 finalists for the Jim Phelan Award.

    Skip Prosser Award (Man of the Year): Pat Skerry, Towson
    Jon Scheyer was one of 20 finalists for the Skip Prosser Award.

    Lefty Dreisell Award (Defensive Player of the Year): Caleb McConnell, Rutgers
    Dereck Lively II was one of 20 finalists for the Lefty Dreisell Award.

    Lute Olson Award (Division I Player of the Year): Jaime Jaquez Jr, UCLA
    Kyle Filipowski was named to the 25-member Lute Olson All-America Team.

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