We’re Going!! Duke Bowl Selection Discussion

[OldPhiKap]

Okay, we’re in! What a fantastic and welcome surprise. Congrats to Coach Elko, his staff, and out student/athletes.

Now that we’re eligible, we can start thinking of destinations and opponents. Let’s start dreaming, folks!

So — where are we going and against whom shall we play?

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Congrats Mike Elko and the entire team! LGD GTHcGTH 9f!

[uh_no]

hell yeah it's duke football!

[TKG]

Hoping for a bowl game between Christmas and New Year’s. It’s within reach if we can get to 7 or maybe 8 wins.

[CameronDuke]

Hoping for a bowl game between Christmas and New Year’s. It’s within reach if we can get to 7 or maybe 8 wins.

I say Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium on 12/29.

Runner-up: Military Bowl in Annapolis on 12/28.

We probably want to stay away from the Fenway Bowl (bet you can’t guess where it’s being played ) on 12/17, but it would be cool to see Duke play there. Any bowl is an accomplishment though and I’ll be happy wherever this team goes to play!

[Bob Green]

Runner-up: Military Bowl in Annapolis on 12/28.

I’m in if we go to the Military Bowl.

[OldPhiKap]

I’m in if we go to the Military Bowl.

You should be an honorary captain!

[MarkD83]

I see that the "Bowl Eligible ?!??!" thread is closed, but I still wanted to keep track of who is in and who is not. This becomes important because it will define who Duke plays. So after this weekend I will still update the stats and add them here.

With that in mind there are 38 teams with 6 or more wins including 6 ACC teams:

Clemson Tigers
North Carolina Tar Heels
NC State Wolfpack
Syracuse Orange
Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Duke Blue Devils

There are another 26 teams with 5 wins including:

Florida State Seminoles
Louisville Cardinals
Notre Dame Fighting Irish

( I am keeping ND in the discussion since they are listed with ACC teams on some bowls)

There are 11 teams with 7 or more losses.

It is a good thing that Clemson is currently one of the 4 teams in the CFP because that bumps the other ACC teams up a bowl game.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

With locations and dates (since I had to look up a few due to the constant name changes):

1. College Football Playoff Semifinal: If Selected

Capital One Orange Bowl
Highest-ranked available ACC team, if it’s not the ACC Champion.

First Tier

– Cheez-It Bowl vs Big 12 ORLANDO 12/29
– Duke’s Mayo Bowl vs Big Ten CHARLOTTE 12/30
– Fenway Bowl vs American Athletic BOSTON 12/17
– Military Bowl Presented by Peraton vs American Athletic ANNAPOLIS 12/27
– New Era Pinstripe Bowl vs Big Ten THE BRONX 12/29
– ReliaQuest Bowl vs SEC (or Big Ten) TAMPA 1/2
– San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl vs Pac-12 SAN DIEGO 12/28
– TaxSlayer Gator Bowl vs SEC JACKSONVILLE 12/30
– Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs Pac-12 EL PASO 12/30

Second Tier

– Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs AAC, Pac-12 or SEC ST. PETE 12/23
– TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl vs SEC or AAC BIRMINGHAM 12/27
– SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs SEC or AAC or Pac-12 DALLAS 12/27

I'm not sure what the pecking order is for these? So Fenway is much earlier than the others so gives us a lot less practice. Selfishly, I might be able to get up to Boston for that one and it would be cool to see a game in Fenway. Beggars can't be choosers but I really hope we avoid El Paso. I live a short subway ride from the Pinstripe Bowl but have a vacation planned for that week - aargh.

[Bob Green]

– Military Bowl Presented by Peraton vs American Athletic ANNAPOLIS 12/27

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Military Bowl is 12/28.

[Acymetric]

I'm not sure how I missed this but I did not realize that the Continental Tire Bowl, Meineke Car Care Bowl, and Belk Bowl were the same bowl. I'd have told you the first two were still going (separately). Anyways, the Duke's Mayo Bowl is definitely the best option for me in terms of date and location but that will probably be tough if we are 3rd at best in the pecking order and nobody makes the playoffs.

[duke2x]

I'm not sure how I missed this but I did not realize that the Continental Tire Bowl, Meineke Car Care Bowl, and Belk Bowl were the same bowl. I'd have told you the first two were still going (separately). Anyways, the Duke's Mayo Bowl is definitely the best option for me in terms of date and location but that will probably be tough if we are 3rd at best in the pecking order and nobody makes the playoffs.

It's possible if the former HOF Bowl takes an ACC team, meaning ND if they can. You can put the ACC teams into 2 tiers at this point.

Tier 1: Clemson, ND, UNC. I think you can assume ND will go 8-4 since they still have BC/@USC left.
Tier 2: Everybody else with 6 wins today.

FSU might be the exception, particularly at 9-3. I feel pretty confident FSU is going to get a Florida bowl game. It benefits the ACC in terms of attendance and perception, and I'll argue they would beat UNC in Chapel Hill right now. Sagarin has Clemson #14, ND #15, FSU #16, and UNC #36.

Orange/Miami - Clemson or UNC by rule.
Tampa (nee Outback/HOF) - No ACC team, ND, or FSU. Expect no ACC team.
Orlando - FSU, ND, and UNC. FSU has not been here recently. ND has been here twice recently.
That leaves Jacksonville, Charlotte, etc., and it's anybody's guess there. A surging Duke team would be better than slumping NCSU and Wake teams for Charlotte, but we really needed another 3,000 Duke fans at the game yesterday.

[OldPhiKap]

It's possible if the former HOF Bowl takes an ACC team, meaning ND if they can. You can put the ACC teams into 2 tiers at this point.

Tier 1: Clemson, ND, UNC. I think you can assume ND will go 8-4 since they still have BC/@USC left.
Tier 2: Everybody else with 6 wins today.

FSU might be the exception, particularly at 9-3. I feel pretty confident FSU is going to get a Florida bowl game. It benefits the ACC in terms of attendance and perception, and I'll argue they would beat UNC in Chapel Hill right now. Sagarin has Clemson #14, ND #15, FSU #16, and UNC #36.

Orange/Miami - Clemson or UNC by rule.
Tampa (nee Outback/HOF) - No ACC team, ND, or FSU. Expect no ACC team.
Orlando - FSU, ND, and UNC. FSU has not been here recently. ND has been here twice recently.
That leaves Jacksonville, Charlotte, etc., and it's anybody's guess there. A surging Duke team would be better than slumping NCSU and Wake teams for Charlotte, but we really needed another 3,000 Duke fans at the game yesterday.

Sad part is, when we get to the final game and bowl committees are visiting we will be hosting Wake in a nearly-empty Wally Wade. Thanksgiving makes for even worse attendance.

[Bob Green]

Jerry Palm projects Duke vs Minnesota in the Pinstripe Bowl.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...s/predictions/

[chrishoke]

Jerry Palm projects Duke vs Minnesota in the Pinstripe Bowl.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...s/predictions/

Sounds cold.

[Bob Green]

Sounds cold.

Exactly why we need to beat Pitt on Saturday.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Sad part is, when we get to the final game and bowl committees are visiting we will be hosting Wake in a nearly-empty Wally Wade. Thanksgiving makes for even worse attendance.

I've got no doubt that any committee would be well aware of the date and the impact on the crowd. They will also look at Duke's recent bowl history, and they'll be aware that our fans showed up.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Sad part is, when we get to the final game and bowl committees are visiting we will be hosting Wake in a nearly-empty Wally Wade. Thanksgiving makes for even worse attendance.

If I'd been Elko's agent, I'd have demanded that Duke simply never host a game during Thanksgiving week. With a small school, very small local alums, and few students with parents in the area....Duke should figure a way to never do this again.

[duke2x]

If I'd been Elko's agent, I'd have demanded that Duke simply never host a game during Thanksgiving week. With a small school, very small local alums, and few students with parents in the area...Duke should figure a way to never do this again.

2018, 2019, 2021, 2022. Next year will be Pitt or Wake at home. The away ACC games are all rivalries that won't move at Duke's request.

[CameronBornAndBred]

If I'd been Elko's agent, I'd have demanded that Duke simply never host a game during Thanksgiving week. With a small school, very small local alums, and few students with parents in the area...Duke should figure a way to never do this again.

I'd rather play our last game in Wallace Wade in front of fewer fans than away vs a hostile crowd. There are way more advantages to playing at home than just the fans in the stands. Travel free, familiar locker room, familiar field, and while maybe smaller, the folks that do show up are cheering for you.