Degenerate US Open Contest

[CameronDuke]

Zalatoris is in the clubhouse with the lead at -4 and the low round of the day - 67.

Unreal golfer.

[CameronDuke]

Double bogey on 11, bogey on 12, bogey on 13 for Scheffler.

He’s now -2 and 2 shots back. He went from -6 to -2 in 3 holes. Hope he gets back in the mix here.

[SouthernDukie]

Double bogey on 11, bogey on 12, bogey on 13 for Scheffler.

He’s now -2 and 2 shots back. He went from -6 to -2 in 3 holes. Hope he gets back in the mix here.

The US Open can do that to a golfer. Wild swings are not unheard of. Here’s to hoping Scottie pulls it together.

Love seeing Keegan close well.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

The US Open can do that to a golfer. Wild swings are not unheard of. Here’s to hoping Scottie pulls it together.

Love seeing Keegan close well.

As the only person to pick Keegan I am president of his fan club right now. He is a Boston guy so I thought that might help.

[SouthernDukie]

As the only person to pick Keegan I am president of his fan club right now. He is a Boston guy so I thought that might help.

I’ve always liked and rooted for him. Seems like a nice guy.

[CameronDuke]

I’ve always liked and rooted for him. Seems like a nice guy.

Love Keegan. He’s from Vermont I think so not terribly far from New England regional area. He’s a huge Boston sports fan so this venue means a lot to him hosting the US Open.

Plus he wears Jordan golf shoes! He’s got some style!

I believe he played collegiately at St. John’s in the big apple. I think he’s won a major before (a PGA Championship).

[SouthernDukie]

Scottie finally gets a stroke back at 17. Now two back of the lead.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Odd question: it seemed like Fitzpatrick doesn’t take the flag stick out when he putts. Is there a reason for this?

[SouthernDukie]

Huge par safe for Scottie on 18.

[SouthernDukie]

Rahm blowing up on 18. Tough final hole for him.

[rsvman]

Odd question: it seemed like Fitzpatrick doesn’t take the flag stick out when he putts. Is there a reason for this?

Because he's smart?

Tests using a stimpmeter ramp to roll the ball show that at proper to slightly too much speed go in at a higher percentage, and putts that are much too fast go in at a higher percentage. The data also show that misses stay closer to the hole.

There is no reason, generally speaking, to take the pin out now that the rule has been changed to allow it. Most people take it out because of convention, I guess.

[CameronDuke]

Odd question: it seemed like Fitzpatrick doesn’t take the flag stick out when he putts. Is there a reason for this?

He may be a proponent of the Bryson DeChambeau method of putting which places heavy emphasis on the coefficient of restitution analysis.

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/usg...stick-analysis

FWIW, Fitzpatrick also chips cross handed (he’s a righty and chips with his right hand high).

[rsvman]

He may be a proponent of the Bryson DeChambeau method of putting which places heavy emphasis on the coefficient of restitution analysis.

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/usg...stick-analysis

FWIW, Fitzpatrick also chips cross handed (he’s a righty and chips with his right hand high).

It is certainly true that the ultra-thick flagsticks don't help the way the thin ones do.

Forgot to mention in my last comment that above and beyond the benefits seen when balls are rolled without human interference, it has also been demonstrated that most people start their golf ball on a better line when the pin is in versus when it is removed. Something about more focus, or a smaller target, or something.

In short, leave it in unless it is one of those really thick ones or if it is really windy, which can bend the stick over and make it harder to make putts when putting into the wind.

[JasonEvans]

Where are the standings?!? I have Zalatoris and Fitzpatrick.

Stop the count right now!!!

[Tripping William]

It is certainly true that the ultra-thick flagsticks don't help the way the thin ones do.

Forgot to mention in my last comment that above and beyond the benefits seen when balls are rolled without human interference, it has also been demonstrated that most people start their golf ball on a better line when the pin is in versus when it is removed. Something about more focus, or a smaller target, or something.

In short, leave it in unless it is one of those really thick ones or if it is really windy, which can bend the stick over and make it harder to make putts when putting into the wind.

Counterpoint:

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the...f-the-time/amp

Tl;dr Ph.D. led study says no benefit to leaving it in in 99% of circumstances. FWIW

[mkirsh]

Where are the standings?!? I have Zalatoris and Fitzpatrick.

Stop the count right now!!!

You are indeed in a great spot with both co-leaders plus Burns! As we saw the last two days there have been wild swings, so it's anyone's tournament at this point.

Happy Fathers Day to all the dads out there!

Team	Player	Place	Proj Winnings	Team Winnings
JasonEvans	Matt Fitzpatrick	T1	$3,150,000	$7,361,088
JasonEvans	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$7,361,088
JasonEvans	Sam Burns	T7	$562,916	$7,361,088
JasonEvans	Davis Riley	T17	$249,721	$7,361,088
JasonEvans	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$7,361,088
JasonEvans	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$7,361,088
JasonEvans	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$7,361,088
laxdawg97	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$5,139,842
laxdawg97	Jon Rahm	3	$1,206,040	$5,139,842
laxdawg97	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$5,139,842
laxdawg97	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$5,139,842
laxdawg97	Justin Rose	T40	$72,904	$5,139,842
laxdawg97	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$5,139,842
rasputin	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$5,019,424
rasputin	Jon Rahm	3	$1,206,040	$5,019,424
rasputin	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$5,019,424
rasputin	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$5,019,424
rasputin	Sungjae Im	CUT	$0	$5,019,424
rasputin	Tommy Fleetwood	CUT	$0	$5,019,424
rasputin	Abraham Ancer	WD	$0	$5,019,424
jv001	Matt Fitzpatrick	T1	$3,150,000	$4,929,837
jv001	Jon Rahm	3	$1,206,040	$4,929,837
jv001	Seamus Power	T11	$382,472	$4,929,837
jv001	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$4,929,837
jv001	Joaquin Niemann	T49	$43,343	$4,929,837
jv001	Abraham Ancer	WD	$0	$4,929,837
jv001	Louis Oosthuizen	CUT	$0	$4,929,837
Utley	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$4,658,849
Utley	Scottie Scheffler	T4	$845,464	$4,658,849
Utley	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$4,658,849
Utley	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$4,658,849
Utley	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$4,658,849
Utley	Tommy Fleetwood	CUT	$0	$4,658,849
killerleft	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$4,558,380
killerleft	Scottie Scheffler	T4	$845,464	$4,558,380
killerleft	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$4,558,380
killerleft	Cameron Smith	CUT	$0	$4,558,380
killerleft	Talor Gooch	CUT	$0	$4,558,380
CrazyNotCrazie	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Keegan Bradley	T4	$845,464	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Davis Riley	T17	$249,721	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Max Homa	T49	$43,343	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Daniel Berger	CUT	$0	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Mito Pereira	CUT	$0	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Sungjae Im	CUT	$0	$4,388,996
CrazyNotCrazie	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$4,388,996
tbyers11	Matt Fitzpatrick	T1	$3,150,000	$4,343,839
tbyers11	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$4,343,839
tbyers11	Aaron Wise	T11	$382,472	$4,343,839
tbyers11	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$4,343,839
tbyers11	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$4,343,839
tbyers11	Daniel Berger	CUT	$0	$4,343,839
tbyers11	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$4,343,839
Tooold	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$4,258,603
Tooold	Sam Burns	T7	$562,916	$4,258,603
Tooold	Collin Morikawa	T17	$249,721	$4,258,603
Tooold	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$4,258,603
Tooold	Jordan Spieth	T25	$147,983	$4,258,603
Tooold	Harold Varner III	CUT	$0	$4,258,603
elvis14	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$4,109,350
elvis14	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$4,109,350
elvis14	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$4,109,350
elvis14	Jordan Spieth	T25	$147,983	$4,109,350
elvis14	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$4,109,350
elvis14	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$4,109,350
Rogue	Matt Fitzpatrick	T1	$3,150,000	$4,077,613
Rogue	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$4,077,613
Rogue	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$4,077,613
Rogue	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$4,077,613
Rogue	Justin Rose	T40	$72,904	$4,077,613
Rogue	Max Homa	T49	$43,343	$4,077,613
Rogue	Cameron Young	CUT	$0	$4,077,613
Rich	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$3,933,803
Rich	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$3,933,803
Rich	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$3,933,803
Rich	Justin Rose	T40	$72,904	$3,933,803
Rich	Cameron Smith	CUT	$0	$3,933,803
Rich	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$3,933,803
dudog84	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$3,933,631
dudog84	Aaron Wise	T11	$382,472	$3,933,631
dudog84	Brian Harman	T17	$249,721	$3,933,631
dudog84	Brooks Koepka	T40	$72,904	$3,933,631
dudog84	Max Homa	T49	$43,343	$3,933,631
dudog84	Harris English	63	$35,193	$3,933,631
dudog84	Daniel Berger	CUT	$0	$3,933,631
dudog84	Mito Pereira	CUT	$0	$3,933,631
dudog84	Corey Conners	CUT	$0	$3,933,631
dudog84	Tommy Fleetwood	CUT	$0	$3,933,631
dudog84	Louis Oosthuizen	CUT	$0	$3,933,631
nmduke2001	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$3,860,899
nmduke2001	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$3,860,899
nmduke2001	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$3,860,899
nmduke2001	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$3,860,899
nmduke2001	Tommy Fleetwood	CUT	$0	$3,860,899
nmduke2001	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$3,860,899
nmduke2001	Phil Mickelson	CUT	$0	$3,860,899
pcal6vb	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$3,813,384
pcal6vb	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$3,813,384
pcal6vb	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$3,813,384
pcal6vb	Daniel Berger	CUT	$0	$3,813,384
pcal6vb	Cameron Smith	CUT	$0	$3,813,384
pcal6vb	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$3,813,384
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15	Will Zalatoris	T1	$3,150,000	$3,797,424
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15	Hideki Matsuyama	T17	$249,721	$3,797,424
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15	Dustin Johnson	T17	$249,721	$3,797,424
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$3,797,424
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15	Cameron Smith	CUT	$0	$3,797,424
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$3,797,424
chadlee989	Matt Fitzpatrick	T1	$3,150,000	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Joaquin Niemann	T49	$43,343	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Daniel Berger	CUT	$0	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Sungjae Im	CUT	$0	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Tommy Fleetwood	CUT	$0	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$3,293,811
chadlee989	Abraham Ancer	WD	$0	$3,293,811
CDu	Jon Rahm	3	$1,206,040	$1,867,076
CDu	Collin Morikawa	T17	$249,721	$1,867,076
CDu	Jordan Spieth	T25	$147,983	$1,867,076
CDu	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$1,867,076
CDu	Brooks Koepka	T40	$72,904	$1,867,076
CDu	Patrick Reed	T45	$54,768	$1,867,076
CDu	Harris English	63	$35,193	$1,867,076
Bob Green	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$1,773,257
Bob Green	Sam Burns	T7	$562,916	$1,773,257
Bob Green	Collin Morikawa	T17	$249,721	$1,773,257
Bob Green	Hideki Matsuyama	T17	$249,721	$1,773,257
Bob Green	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$1,773,257
accfanfrom1970	Jon Rahm	3	$1,206,040	$1,644,910
accfanfrom1970	Dustin Johnson	T17	$249,721	$1,644,910
accfanfrom1970	Brooks Koepka	T40	$72,904	$1,644,910
accfanfrom1970	Justin Rose	T40	$72,904	$1,644,910
accfanfrom1970	Max Homa	T49	$43,343	$1,644,910
accfanfrom1970	Corey Conners	CUT	$0	$1,644,910
accfanfrom1970	Sungjae Im	CUT	$0	$1,644,910
accfanfrom1970	Billy Horschel	CUT	$0	$1,644,910
rsvman	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$1,448,457
rsvman	Sam Burns	T7	$562,916	$1,448,457
rsvman	Davis Riley	T17	$249,721	$1,448,457
rsvman	Justin Rose	T40	$72,904	$1,448,457
rsvman	Corey Conners	CUT	$0	$1,448,457
rsvman	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$1,448,457
rsvman	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$1,448,457
rsvman	Abraham Ancer	WD	$0	$1,448,457
mr. synellinden	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$1,421,798
mr. synellinden	Sam Burns	T7	$562,916	$1,421,798
mr. synellinden	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$1,421,798
mr. synellinden	Patrick Cantlay	T25	$147,983	$1,421,798
mr. synellinden	Cameron Young	CUT	$0	$1,421,798
CameronDuke	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$1,181,506
CameronDuke	Collin Morikawa	T17	$249,721	$1,181,506
CameronDuke	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$1,181,506
CameronDuke	Jordan Spieth	T25	$147,983	$1,181,506
CameronDuke	Brooks Koepka	T40	$72,904	$1,181,506
CameronDuke	Webb Simpson	CUT	$0	$1,181,506
DevilHorse	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$1,108,603
DevilHorse	Collin Morikawa	T17	$249,721	$1,108,603
DevilHorse	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$1,108,603
DevilHorse	Jordan Spieth	T25	$147,983	$1,108,603
DevilHorse	Daniel Berger	CUT	$0	$1,108,603
DevilHorse	Harold Varner III	CUT	$0	$1,108,603
Turk	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$854,710
Turk	Justin Thomas	T25	$147,983	$854,710
Turk	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$854,710
Turk	Max Homa	T49	$43,343	$854,710
Turk	Billy Horschel	CUT	$0	$854,710
Turk	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$854,710
mkirsh	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$754,242
mkirsh	Jordan Spieth	T25	$147,983	$754,242
mkirsh	Max Homa	T49	$43,343	$754,242
mkirsh	Cameron Smith	CUT	$0	$754,242
mkirsh	Shane Lowry	CUT	$0	$754,242
mkirsh	Billy Horschel	CUT	$0	$754,242
sagegrouse	Rory McIlroy	T7	$562,916	$736,288
sagegrouse	Xander Schauffele	T33	$100,468	$736,288
sagegrouse	Justin Rose	T40	$72,904	$736,288
sagegrouse	Cameron Smith	CUT	$0	$736,288
sagegrouse	Cameron Young	CUT	$0	$736,288
sagegrouse	Tony Finau	CUT	$0	$736,288
sagegrouse	Abraham Ancer	WD	$0	$736,288

[dudog84]

Not as bad as I thought. Outside of Z, my guys went +8, +5, +5, +5, and +5. If things revert to average (i.e. they play well today), I might even have a chance.

[Bob Green]

Team Green fell like a rock (boulder) on Saturday.

[CameronDuke]

A blustery 59° in Brookline, Mass right now. High of 63° in the forecast.

Quite the contrast from typical US Open weather, say for instance, the 2014 US Open at Pinehurst!

This appears more like The Open Championship type weather!

[dudog84]

Not as bad as I thought. Outside of Z, my guys went +8, +5, +5, +5, and +5. If things revert to average (i.e. they play well today), I might even have a chance.

So much for that hope. My first 4 out in various stages of meltdown +7, +5, +1, +2. At this point I'd need to go 1st and 2nd...or have a bunch of non-picks take the first 4 or 5 spots.