This Week in the ACC: 12/6-12/12

[DukieInBrasil]

what a horrendous day for the ACC. losing to pretty much everybody, regardless of the quality of conference. The ACC's OOC record is atrocious.

[DukieInBrasil]

If the shot has no chance of going in, it’s not goaltending.

if the shot hit the backboard and was then blocked, it is, by definition, goaltending.

[uh_no]

if the shot hit the backboard and was then blocked, it is, by definition, goaltending.

This is not totally correct. It cannot be goaltending once the "try" is completed, and by definition:

Art. 12. A try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the throw is
unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball becomes
dead.

And goaltending is defined as during a try. This is further reinforced explicitly by the backboard rule.

When the ball contacts the backboard and any part of the ball is above
the rim during a field goal attempt, it is considered to be on its downward
flight. In such a case, it is goaltending when the ball is touched by a player
as long as it has a possibility of entering the basket.

Emphasis mine.

Whether it has a possibility of entering the basket is a judgement call made by the refs, and usually granted very liberally.

[Matches]

This is a guy who was routinely bringing in top 25 players at Duke and Oklahoma. He has signed exactly one top 100 player in his time at Pitt, John Hugley (who is currently their best player).

IIRC in his last year at OK, he got no recruits. Struck out entirely. Obviously he did a GREAT job recruiting at Duke, but he’s had a hard time getting the same caliber of player as a HC, and without K in the wings.

[CDu]

IIRC in his last year at OK, he got no recruits. Struck out entirely. Obviously he did a GREAT job recruiting at Duke, but he’s had a hard time getting the same caliber of player as a HC, and without K in the wings.

Yeah, and there has to be some question as to how cleanly he was recruiting those top-25 guys at Oklahoma. Tiny Gallon was given impermissible benefits, which helped to derail the program at OU.

But I think the big thing is that OU had resources and reputation and Pitt has neither. So he landed a handful of back-end McDonald's guys, most notably Blake Griffin. But Griffin was an Oklahoma kid whose brother was already at OU. So that helped. And that probably also helped in landing Willie Warren and Tommie Mason-Griffin and Tiny Gallon.

But after Griffin went pro, Capel's fortunes faded fast. His team went 13-18 in 2010 and 14-18 in 2011. That combined with the recruiting violations probably tarnished his reputation.

And at Pitt, with fewer resources and less name recognition, he's run into issues with his players. Tons of guys have transferred out. That probably has only further tarnished his reputation.