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  1. #21
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    Read the Feinstein column. The "extension" of the Turgeon contract was a smokescreen -- it reduced the buyout amount.
    Sage Grouse

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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrinalCake View Post
    The Maryland fans that I know are quite happy with the move to the big 10. They get way more football money for the school.

    I wonder if they’ll go after Nate James? He’s from that area.
    Wojo and Dawkins too. And Nolan. But I would be shocked if Maryland took a Duke guy (though it did work quite well with Lefty).

    When Gary left, Maryland was a premier job, but at this point I don’t really know anymore. It will be very interesting to see what type of talent they can attract. No one in the Gary Williams coaching tree has had a ton of recent success. Juan Dixon had been making steady progress improving Coppin State but they are off to a horrific start this year. I’m sure he will get a look but there are not a lot of obvious candidates.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkirsh View Post
    Wojo and Dawkins too. And Nolan. But I would be shocked if Maryland took a Duke guy (though it did work quite well with Lefty).

    When Gary left, Maryland was a premier job, but at this point I don’t really know anymore. It will be very interesting to see what type of talent they can attract. No one in the Gary Williams coaching tree has had a ton of recent success. Juan Dixon had been making steady progress improving Coppin State but they are off to a horrific start this year. I’m sure he will get a look but there are not a lot of obvious candidates.
    playing in big 10, bball history...i imagine they will have no trouble finding a coach.
    basketball is back, baby!

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrinalCake View Post
    The Maryland fans that I know are quite happy with the move to the big 10. They get way more football money for the school.

    I wonder if they’ll go after Nate James? He’s from that area.
    Stockholm Syndrome?
    Last edited by killerleft; 12-04-2021 at 02:04 AM.
    Man, if your Mom made you wear that color when you were a baby, and you're still wearing it, it's time to grow up!

  5. #25
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    Reminds me so much of Herb Sendek’s tenure at State. Good enough to make the tournament nearly every season, but not good enough to be a legitimate threat to win it all or even advance past the first weekend. Fans were constantly disappointed and vocally showed disapproval of their coach, which wore on him over time until he ultimately decided to bolt. (From what I’ve read, this was just as much about Turgeon wanting out as it was the school wanting to get rid of him.) The final straw appears to have been their loss to VT in which fans were booing him in their home stadium.

    Unfortunately for Turgeon, one of their best teams in recent memory was lost during the COVID season of 2020. I think they were in the top 15. Maybe a deep run that year would have renewed their fans’ support.

  6. #26
    It would be great if they kept Manning as head coach. Because he may be a wonderful person etc. etc., but he's an absolutely terrible basketball coach.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    Read the Feinstein column. The "extension" of the Turgeon contract was a smokescreen -- it reduced the buyout amount.
    Interesting…I did read in the Feinstein article that they reduced the buyout with the contract extension, but I didn’t take it the next logical step….that maybe the contract extension was actually the first step in the “mutual” decision to part ways. Then add to that the fact that they hired Manning around the same time, it does seem like they were preparing for this, and just waiting (hoping?) for a couple losses to provide the excuse.

  8. #28
    I hate to say this, but Jeff Capel's seat must be warm. Sure, they've lost a couple close ones, but they were outclassed by Vandy, which to be honest is not that good.

  9. #29
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    New Bern, NC unless it's a home football game then I'm grilling on Devil's Alley
    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    I hate to say this, but Jeff Capel's seat must be warm. Sure, they've lost a couple close ones, but they were outclassed by Vandy, which to be honest is not that good.
    I'd think it would be boiling hot.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    I'd think it would be boiling hot.
    69-90 since Blake Griffin left OU, not adjusting for vacated results.

  11. #31

    Turgeon's last 8 years versus Gary Williams last 8.

    Giving Turgeon some chance to settle in (Williams took 6 years to finish above .500 in the ACC), Turgeon has actually done pretty well his last 8 years compared to William's final 8 at Maryland.

    In his last 8 seasons, Williams finished above .500 twice in the ACC, was .500 twice and below .500 four times. He went 67-61 for a .523 conference winning %. He made 4 tournaments and never got out of the 2nd round.

    Turgeon has gone 91-59 in the Big 10 for a .607 wining %. He made 5 tournaments and a Sweet 16. As someone mentioned, unfortunately for him one of his better teams was the 2020 team when the NCAA Tournament was canceled.

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