Kyrie on Twitter

[Lord Ash]

Anyone see this?

https://twitter.com/KyrieIrving/stat...60955192459278

This better be a metaphor. Otherwise I’ll really disappointed. Like “done with you” disappointed.

[mph]

Anyone see this?

https://twitter.com/KyrieIrving/stat...60955192459278

This better be a metaphor. Otherwise I’ll really disappointed. Like “done with you” disappointed.

Well, I guess one thing that could be said is science is less settled on the efficacy of masks than it is on the shape of the earth. But that’s an extraordinarily low bar.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

As someone who has defended Kyrie many times, I am forced to assume he means some sort of metaphorical mask. A public persona? A game face?

It seems in line with his general attitude towards the universe. But I would like to hear a clarification.

Knowing Kyrie, he's happy to not offer one and let people wonder/assume.

[Acymetric]

He's on kind of a cryptic streak right now so it is hard to know how to interpret the post. Either interpretation strikes me as on brand.

[budwom]

He's on kind of a cryptic streak right now so it is hard to know how to interpret the post. Either interpretation strikes me as on brand.

It's possible, even likely, that he doesn't know what he means.

[proelitedota]

Kyrie has so many big brain moments. When is he finishing his PHD from Duke.

[hustleplays]

Kyrie has so many big brain moments. When is he finishing his PHD from Duke.

Just wistfully wondering whether 2, 3 or 4 years of a Duke education might have boosted Kyrie's thinking skills and reduced his ignorance.

[bundabergdevil]

Kyrie clarifies or walks back, you decide:

“Mask off” means
You stop being something you’re not and stop lying to yourself. It’s the moment you discover the real you and can walk around with NO FEAR in a society that shows a lot of the masks people wear to hide who they truly are.

*nothing COVID rule related!! Relax

[LSanders]

Kyrie clarifies or walks back, you decide:

“Mask off” means
You stop being something you’re not and stop lying to yourself. It’s the moment you discover the real you and can walk around with NO FEAR in a society that shows a lot of the masks people wear to hide who they truly are.

*nothing COVID rule related!! Relax

Honestly, it's gotten to the point that my heads drops and I sigh every time I see a "Kyrie said ..." headline. What now?

As to your update ... So what? In THIS TIME in history, a mask off, blah, blah, blah posting is tone deaf and irresponsible.

The damage caused by running into a crowded theater and yelling, "FIRE!" isn't mitigated by claiming afterward: "I meant people should light that fire that burns in all of us. Chillax."

Kyrie, for love of all that's holy ... shut up.jpg

[cspan37421]

The damage caused by running into a crowded theater and yelling, "FIRE!" isn't mitigated by claiming afterward: "I meant people should light that fire that burns in all of us. Chillax."

Tobias knows what you mean.

[Eternal Outlaw]

Just wistfully wondering whether 2, 3 or 4 years of a Duke education might have boosted Kyrie's thinking skills and reduced his ignorance.

Older article but as far as recently heard, it hasn't changed. https://www.upmc.com/media/news/0726...cine-hesitancy

'The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.'

While this is about vaccines and not masks, seems pretty clear the accepted stance on this site is pro both and anyone against either is ignorant. But isn't it interesting at all that people with really high levels of education are the biggest hesitancy group? It's like the more you know maybe the less convinced you are and so the less educated was convinced more than the highest. Or maybe it's because people got so much hatred and shaming thrown at them that they just did it but PHDs aren't going to feel that same pressure when they can lean back on their education.

It's pretty disappointing here. Fans from any team if they do respectably, even UNC, can join the conversation but it's pretty clear there is now a gate being thrown down where differing opinions on vaccines and masks are not wanted and will be shamed and hated on. I'm 43 and every commercial about health products always said talk to your doctor. I drive 25 minutes to and from work and will hear three different vaccine commercials each day at least and not one says talk to your doctor. Message is clear, just do it. I got vaccinated after speaking with my doctor. I'm an introvert so lockdowns/mask mandates don't even affect me much. I'm certainly not the enemy but this disgusts me. The fact people are seen as enemies and treated with hate and like their trash is way below what I thought this site was about. Gatekeeping, hatred, name calling. https://forums.dukebasketballreport...61#post1396761

If you truly think calling people refusenik and pounding your chest wanting to gate keep them out of places will win the day, keep doing what you're doing. It seems people will dig in harder but I don't have 4 years at Duke like Kyrie so what do I know. I was just a boy who has Polish roots and in a town where the favorite jokes were 'how many Polish people does it take to' and saw a guy on TV with a hard to spell Polish name and was amazed everyone (naive of course) seemed to respect him. I didn't have the money, grades, SAT score, or the athletic ability to get into Duke. Congrats to those that were lucky enough to go. But plenty of us got to the same place as you without it so maybe drop the elite crap that 2,3,4 years of a Duke education might bring with it for some, be kind to people, maybe figure out less aggressive ways to get people to agree with your side and if it still doesn't work, treat them like a human being that they still are. Just a thought but maybe I just need my ignorance reduced.

[cspan37421]

Older article but as far as recently heard, it hasn't changed. https://www.upmc.com/media/news/0726...cine-hesitancy

'The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.'

While this is about vaccines and not masks, seems pretty clear the accepted stance on this site is pro both and anyone against either is ignorant. But isn't it interesting at all that people with really high levels of education are the biggest hesitancy group?

The "largest decrease in hesitancy" is a change. It says nothing about the starting point. So suppose 16% of Ph.D.s (in any field?) say they'll never get the vaccine, and over the study period, suppose that dropped to 14%. That's a 2% absolute drop, a 12.5% relative drop. Suppose adults with no college at all refuse the vaccine at a rate of 30%, and after the study period, it's 25%. That's a 5% absolute drop, and a 16.7% relative drop - beating the PhD decrease in hesitancy on both counts. But the second group remains the largest hesitancy group.

OK, so that's an example. But what does the study actually claim for data? It appears to me that the no-college group began with a hesitancy rate 50% higher than the PhD group. This steadily declined from January to May. The PhD group stayed pretty level, whereas the no-college group hesitancy dropped down to the level of the PhD group by April and slightly below it by May. But really, "no college", "some college", and "PhD" are all very closely grouped by May. There were other variables that showed persistent stronger differences.

What do I make of it? Nothing. It was not peer reviewed, for one thing. For another, it was self-reported, online, Facebook-funded survey: Researchers: "Additionally, we assume the survey was completed in good faith. " I wouldn't hang my hat on such a study design. Doesn't make it wrong, but sure can't assume it's right.

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As for the topic of Kyrie, I don't mind if someone believes in conspiracies. There are some real ones in the world, and it would be nice if those were the ones he believed in. Such as groups of people conspiring to convince others that the earth was flat, that vaccines are harmful, etc.

[hustleplays]

Older article but as far as recently heard, it hasn't changed. https://www.upmc.com/media/news/0726...cine-hesitancy

'The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.'

While this is about vaccines and not masks, seems pretty clear the accepted stance on this site is pro both and anyone against either is ignorant. But isn't it interesting at all that people with really high levels of education are the biggest hesitancy group? It's like the more you know maybe the less convinced you are and so the less educated was convinced more than the highest. Or maybe it's because people got so much hatred and shaming thrown at them that they just did it but PHDs aren't going to feel that same pressure when they can lean back on their education.

It's pretty disappointing here. Fans from any team if they do respectably, even UNC, can join the conversation but it's pretty clear there is now a gate being thrown down where differing opinions on vaccines and masks are not wanted and will be shamed and hated on. I'm 43 and every commercial about health products always said talk to your doctor. I drive 25 minutes to and from work and will hear three different vaccine commercials each day at least and not one says talk to your doctor. Message is clear, just do it. I got vaccinated after speaking with my doctor. I'm an introvert so lockdowns/mask mandates don't even affect me much. I'm certainly not the enemy but this disgusts me. The fact people are seen as enemies and treated with hate and like their trash is way below what I thought this site was about. Gatekeeping, hatred, name calling. https://forums.dukebasketballreport...61#post1396761

If you truly think calling people refusenik and pounding your chest wanting to gate keep them out of places will win the day, keep doing what you're doing. It seems people will dig in harder but I don't have 4 years at Duke like Kyrie so what do I know. I was just a boy who has Polish roots and in a town where the favorite jokes were 'how many Polish people does it take to' and saw a guy on TV with a hard to spell Polish name and was amazed everyone (naive of course) seemed to respect him. I didn't have the money, grades, SAT score, or the athletic ability to get into Duke. Congrats to those that were lucky enough to go. But plenty of us got to the same place as you without it so maybe drop the elite crap that 2,3,4 years of a Duke education might bring with it for some, be kind to people, maybe figure out less aggressive ways to get people to agree with your side and if it still doesn't work, treat them like a human being that they still are. Just a thought but maybe I just need my ignorance reduced.

Dear Eternal Outlaw,

I'm tempted to go all out ad hominem on the basis of your moniker, but I won't, because ad hominem isn't kind, especially when it presumes the worst, it deflects from any central argument and it is usually off-base.

Rather than project onto me your distain of elitism, which I share, please note that I mentioned "Duke" simply because that is where Kyrie started college. If he had gone to any other school, I would have inserted that school. I happen to believe that college education is good for our brain and knowledge. Kyrie's attending any college for more than an effective semester may have compelled him to take such electives as geology and astronomy, making it more difficult to believe in a flat earth, or whatever. FWIW, I happen to be a big fan of Community Colleges.

Besides being unkind, ad hominem deflects from the central argument, which in my view is that we are facing a deadly, on-going pandemic. The scientific community is as united as it can be in asserting that masks and vaccines help reduce contagion, hospitalizations and deaths. I have no idea, really, of Kyrie's IQ or motives. But his statement undoubtedly gave more ammunition to those adamant against and/or hesitant about masking and vaccinations. What is also unfortunately true is that "walk backs," clarifications, whatever do not get the reach that the original statement does. I presume Kyrie is aware of this, and I wish that he would be more careful in the future, when peoples' health and lives are on the line.

Ad hominem often misses the mark because it usually projects a view rather than accurately describe the object of the ad hominem. As for me, I don't know whether I could have gotten into Duke as an UG. Doesn't matter to me. What I do know is that my father [who left our family struggling when I was five], and my uncle and grandfather all worked for Ford's in Dearborn MI. We were as lunch pail blue collar as they come. My mom worked two jobs as we were growing up so that she could hold the family together. Our vacations consisted of maybe several days at a nearby lake. I worked all through junior high, HS, college and grad school, worked every summer, all summer. Often two jobs at once, because I was dirt poor.

My professional earnings changed the economic situation of my own family. My two sons did go to Duke and I am proud of their accomplishments. I would have been equally proud of them going anywhere else. They both knew and know that their own experience was very different from my own. We had a pact: I would continue to be generous so long as they made the most of their experience and remained grateful and humble. They more than upheld their side of the bargain and I am deeply grateful.

I now teach at Duke and cannot stand any sign of elitism and smugness. But in fact so many Duke students do not conform to the negative stereotype. Many are gracious, grateful and not at all arrogant. As you know, many Duke students are on full scholarship and do not come from economically privileged backgrounds. And they are gifted, no doubt, just as there are gifted student everywhere. Before I came to teach at Duke, I taught at Armstrong Atlantic State U, in Savannah. [I had retired from management consulting, and wanted to see if I liked teaching. I did!] One of my greatest joys was to see how gifted some of the students were. I let them know that they shouldn't underestimate their abilities and their prospects. I shared some of my story. I encouraged them to not let their own background and lack of "elite credentials" constrain their vision and goals. My mission is to help us all become the best version of ourselves, and that does not include arrogance, elitism and unkindness.

My kindness extends to you, Eternal Outlaw, and I hope that it is mutual. I wish you the best!

hustleplays

[ClemmonsDevil]

Dear Eternal Outlaw,

I'm tempted to go all out ad hominem on the basis of your moniker, but I won't, because ad hominem isn't kind, especially when it presumes the worst, it deflects from any central argument and it is usually off-base.

Rather than project onto me your distain of elitism, which I share, please note that I mentioned "Duke" simply because that is where Kyrie started college. If he had gone to any other school, I would have inserted that school. I happen to believe that college education is good for our brain and knowledge. Kyrie's attending any college for more than an effective semester may have compelled him to take such electives as geology and astronomy, making it more difficult to believe in a flat earth, or whatever. FWIW, I happen to be a big fan of Community Colleges.

Besides being unkind, ad hominem deflects from the central argument, which in my view is that we are facing a deadly, on-going pandemic. The scientific community is as united as it can be in asserting that masks and vaccines help reduce contagion, hospitalizations and deaths. I have no idea, really, of Kyrie's IQ or motives. But his statement undoubtedly gave more ammunition to those adamant against and/or hesitant about masking and vaccinations. What is also unfortunately true is that "walk backs," clarifications, whatever do not get the reach that the original statement does. I presume Kyrie is aware of this, and I wish that he would be more careful in the future, when peoples' health and lives are on the line.

Ad hominem often misses the mark because it usually projects a view rather than accurately describe the object of the ad hominem. As for me, I don't know whether I could have gotten into Duke as an UG. Doesn't matter to me. What I do know is that my father [who left our family struggling when I was five], and my uncle and grandfather all worked for Ford's in Dearborn MI. We were as lunch pail blue collar as they come. My mom worked two jobs as we were growing up so that she could hold the family together. Our vacations consisted of maybe several days at a nearby lake. I worked all through junior high, HS, college and grad school, worked every summer, all summer. Often two jobs at once, because I was dirt poor.

My professional earnings changed the economic situation of my own family. My two sons did go to Duke and I am proud of their accomplishments. I would have been equally proud of them going anywhere else. They both knew and know that their own experience was very different from my own. We had a pact: I would continue to be generous so long as they made the most of their experience and remained grateful and humble. They more than upheld their side of the bargain and I am deeply grateful.

I now teach at Duke and cannot stand any sign of elitism and smugness. But in fact so many Duke students do not conform to the negative stereotype. Many are gracious, grateful and not at all arrogant. As you know, many Duke students are on full scholarship and do not come from economically privileged backgrounds. And they are gifted, no doubt, just as there are gifted student everywhere. Before I came to teach at Duke, I taught at Armstrong Atlantic State U, in Savannah. [I had retired from management consulting, and wanted to see if I liked teaching. I did!] One of my greatest joys was to see how gifted some of the students were. I let them know that they shouldn't underestimate their abilities and their prospects. I shared some of my story. I encouraged them to not let their own background and lack of "elite credentials" constrain their vision and goals. My mission is to help us all become the best version of ourselves, and that does not include arrogance, elitism and unkindness.

My kindness extends to you, Eternal Outlaw, and I hope that it is mutual. I wish you the best!

hustleplays

Amazing post. Sporks.

Darn. Must spread comments.

[PackMan97]

Given Kyrie's tweets on a flat earth, I've pretty much written him off as an internet troll.

[Edouble]

For Kyrie to joke about taking his mask off is disappointing. It's inappropriate to use that kind of loaded language, then follow up with another tweet saying "Huh, you thought this tweet was about COVID? Haha. Chill y'all".

I mean, how is that funny or witty or anything?

Kyrie lost big point with me on this latest attention seeking tweet.

[rsvman]

...

Kyrie lost big point with me on this latest attention seeking tweet.

Just one?

[camion]

Just one?

But it was a big one!!

[Steven43]

Given Kyrie's tweets on a flat earth, I've pretty much written him off as an internet troll.

Wait, hold up. An NC State fan is not high on a former Duke player???

I refuse to believe this. 😉

[PackMan97]

Wait, hold up. An NC State fan is not high on a former Duke player???

I refuse to believe this. ��

Don't be hating. Duke is the team that got me into college basketball and Duke hospital fix my dad's heart back in 1992. The Duke/UK game is the first basketball game I watched in a crowd (at the Camp Lejune bowling alley of all places, it was a great experience) and I fell in love with the experience of college basketball. That I became a State fan in the 1993 is widely known as one of the modern miracles.. Duke will always be my second favorite team and have a special place in my heart, even when you guys lose to UNC. Even though I identify as a State fan, I am definitely also a Duke fan. Everyone around here knows I've seldom said an unkind word about Duke, usually only shortly after y'all lost to UNC.