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  1. #1661
    Overseas, including transfer players at the end:

    Ryan Kelly was playing for Shibuya in Japan for the fourth consecutive season, but he suffered a season-ending injury in the season opener.
    https://www.bleague.jp/roster_detail/?PlayerID=18398

    Quinn Cook played overseas for the first time with Lokomotiv Kuban Krasnodar in Russia, joining the team after the start of the season, but both sides agreed to part ways after he played six games.
    https://vtb-league.com/en/team/0/?te...9&compId=37520
    https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net...n-cook/011294/

    Jahlil Okafor signed in China and headed to Hangzhou after a lengthy quarantine to join the team in time for the last phase of the season. He played well as the team was in a battle for the championship before his frontcourt partner went down with an injury.
    https://www.cbaleague.com/data/#/pla...erId=100077374

    Antonio Vrankovic started the season in Croatia with Cibona Zagreb, but left for Pardubice in the Czech Republic at the turn of the year. The team battled for multiple trophies, but had tough postseason losses.
    https://www.hks-cbf.hr/statistika/?W...5%2Fgamelog%3F
    https://www.aba-liga.com/player/3601...nio-vrankovic/
    https://nbl.basketball/hrac/122188#tab-pane-two
    http://www.alpeadriacup.com/player/6530528

    Jack White returned from the injury that ended his last season and quickly became a key player for Melbourne United again in his second season with the team, although they were upset in the playoffs after being the top team in the regular season. He had two seasons left on his contract, but signed a new deal that extends him by another season.
    https://nbl.com.au/player/7694/277406/jack-white

    Justin Robinson started the season with Maccabi Raanana in Israel's second division. After eight games, he left and then signed with Elitzur Ironi Netanya in the same division and helped them finish higher up the standings before losing in the first round of the playoffs to be promoted.
    https://ibasketball.co.il/%D7%A9%D7%...1%d7%95%d7%9f/

    Jasmine Thomas started the season under contract with the same team in Turkey in Fenerbahce, but they decided that they needed to allocate their foreign player slots differently and she ended up signing with Cukurova in the same league until the conclusion of EuroCup Women. They did not win that title as they had hoped, but she did help them capture the Turkish Cup.
    https://tbf.org.tr/ligler/kbsl-2021-...u-detay/334742
    https://www.fiba.basketball/eurocupw...Jasmine-Thomas

    Haley Peters remained in France, but moved to Lattes Montpellier and had another good season in the league and in EuroLeague Women play even though the team was bounced from the first round of the playoffs in both.
    https://basketlfb.com/joueur/match-p...0-haley-peters
    https://www.fiba.basketball/euroleag...r/Haley-Peters

    Chloe Wells signed with Dynamo Novosibirsk in Russia and was having a fantastic season for them before the vast majority of foreign players left the league for safety reasons.
    https://russiabasket.ru/players/218079?lang=en

    Elizabeth Williams signed with one of her former teams, returning to Fenerbahce in Turkey and emerging as a key player for them as they won the league, but not the EuroLeague Women crown that they thought that they were in perfect position to claim.
    https://tbf.org.tr/ligler/kbsl-2021-...u-detay/361915
    https://www.fiba.basketball/euroleag...abeth-Williams

    Angela Salvadores returned to her native Spain with Valencia and had a solid season for them as they hoisted the first two trophies that they competed for, but could not realize their ambitions late in the season with another.
    https://baloncestoenvivo.feb.es/jugador/857939/1458903
    https://www.fiba.basketball/euroleag...ela-Salvadores
    https://www.fiba.basketball/eurocupw...ela-Salvadores

    Oderah Chidom returned to overseas play with Angers in France and had a good season with them as they nearly pulled off an upset in the first round of the playoffs.
    https://basketlfb.com/joueur/match-p...-oderah-chidom

    Kendall Cooper returned to Ifs in France's third division with the season avoiding major virus issues. Stats are not widely available for games at this level, but she helped them nearly realize their promotion ambitions before falling short of the final stage.

    Erin Mathias signed with Grengewald Hueschtert in Luxembourg and had a great season even as they did not quite achieve their playoff goals.
    https://www.luxembourg.basketball/jo...rin-elizabeth/
    https://www.fiba.basketball/eurocupw...zabeth-Mathias

    Lexie Brown signed with Charnay in France and headed there after the WNBA season, but left after six excellent games for personal reasons. She later played with Athletes Unlimited Basketball during their season in Las Vegas.
    https://basketlfb.com/joueur/match-p...xie-brown/2021

    Sofia Roma started the season with Granada in Spain's second division, but battled injuries and both sides agreed to terminate her contract ahead of her reporting to the Puerto Rico national team. She finished the season with Sodertalje in Sweden and helped them keep their place in the league.
    https://baloncestoenvivo.feb.es/jugador/858075/2451356
    https://www.sbldam.se/athlete-profil...6QHQzxGM/stats

    Haley Gorecki signed with Tenerife in the middle of the season while the team was going through major roster turmoil. She helped them get to the brink of safety, but they fell short in their last opportunity and were relegated.
    https://baloncestoenvivo.feb.es/jugador/857828/2432304

    Leaonna Odom had signed in Australia with the Sydney Flames, but she was injured at the end of the WNBA season and could not report to the team when their season started. In January, she signed with Kyiv in Ukraine for her first overseas experience and ended up playing six games before leaving the country before the invasion.
    https://fbu.ua/statistics/league-320...ason_id=122743

    Alex Murphy joined his brother Erik in Japan's second division with Fukushima and helped them contend for the championship, before falling short.
    https://www.bleague.jp/roster_detail...rID=5100000051

    Rasheed Sulaimon returned to his first overseas country with Bourg-en-Bresse in France. He had a good season even though the team missed both the domestic and EuroCup playoffs.
    https://www.lnb.fr/elite/joueur/?id=7305
    https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net...laimon/011150/

    Derryck Thornton signed with the Kapfenberg Bulls in Austria after the start of their season and did well individually, but the team was not able to maintain its recent success in the league.
    https://www.basketballaustria.at/spi...ason_id=122149

    Chelsea Hopkins played in Israel again, this time for Maccabi Haifa where she continued to be one of the best players in the league and nearly helped them achieve unexpected success in the postseason.
    https://ibasketball.co.il/%D7%A9%D7%...9%d7%a0%d7%a1/

    Alexis Jones started the season with Spartak Moscow in Russia before moving to Elitzur Holon in Israel where she did well even though the team did not quite reach its goals for the campaign.
    https://russiabasket.ru/players/23859?lang=en
    https://ibasketball.co.il/%D7%A9%D7%...5%d7%a0%d7%a1/

    Sierra Moore started the season with Satu Mare in Romania, but then moved to Bodrum in Turkey's second division to try to keep them in the division, but they could not do so.
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/pla...easonId=123019
    https://tbf.org.tr/ligler/tkbl-2021-...u-detay/501663

    Azura Stevens signed with Nika Syktyvkar in Russia after the start of the season, but she departed at the same time as most of the other foreign players before the team could try for an unprecedented season.
    https://russiabasket.ru/players/220330?lang=en
    https://www.fiba.basketball/eurocupw...reeona-Stevens

    Sierra Calhoun signed with Zaragoza in Spain and had a good season as they finished better than expected in the final standings.
    https://baloncestoenvivo.feb.es/jugador/857866/2451290

    Crystal Primm joined Caceres in Spain's second division, but had a solid season cut short after being diagnosed with Pericarditis.
    https://baloncestoenvivo.feb.es/jugador/857881/2432438

    Kyra Lambert started her professional career in Turkey's second division with Karsiyaka and did well before moving to Banska Bystrica in Slovakia for the rest of the season.
    https://tbf.org.tr/ligler/tkbl-2021-...u-detay/501125
    https://exz.sk/stats/player-stats?se...&playerId=2263

  2. #1662
    Quote Originally Posted by awhom111 View Post
    Ryan Kelly was playing for Shibuya in Japan for the fourth consecutive season, but he suffered a season-ending injury in the season opener.
    Sorry to hear that, hope he has a full and speedy recovery.

  3. #1663
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    Rather than start a new thread I’ll just put this JJ and Bob Cousy beef here:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bob-cou...150046776.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Rather than start a new thread I’ll just put this JJ and Bob Cousy beef here:

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bob-cou...150046776.html
    good find. I think JJ is great, but Cousy has a point (pun)...I doubt JJ ever got to see Cousy play...yeah, the athleticism now is a whole lot better, but those guys weren't the stiffs JJ seems to think they were.

  5. #1665
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    good find. I think JJ is great, but Cousy has a point (pun)...I doubt JJ ever got to see Cousy play...yeah, the athleticism now is a whole lot better, but those guys weren't the stiffs JJ seems to think they were.
    In the draft that Cousy was selected in, the guy who was picked sixth chose to skip the NBA and become a dentist instead. At the time Cousy was drafted, there were zero black NBA players.

    Obviously, JJ's comment was a snarky exaggeration and I get why Cousy or other players from that time would take offense, but the spirit of what JJ was getting at was dead on (nothing against dentists!).

  6. #1666
    Quote Originally Posted by Wander View Post
    (nothing against dentists!).
    Anti - dentite….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wander View Post
    I (nothing against dentists!).
    Depends on their pain-management skills. Fewer things in my experience are worse than a dentist who didn't use enough novocaine during a root-canal.

    There's another side to this question. Players from Cousy's generation didn't have access to anything resembling today's training infrastructure, everything from weight training, to physical therapists to nutritionists to sports psychologists.

    And there were only eight teams in the NBA during most of Cousy's career. The 90th best player in the league was an end-of-the-bench scrub. The 90th best player in today's NBA is a starter on a playoff team.

    And there were Black players in the NBA during most of his tenure. Not anywhere enough, to be sure. Donald Sterling wasn't the first racist NBA owner. But the Celtics had great Black players like Bill Russell, Sam Jones, K.C. Jones and Satch Sanders while ACC hoops was totally segregated and by all indications Cousy was welcoming and supportive to those pioneers. And he competed against Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor and Oscar Robertson and Hal Greer and Walt Bellamy and Chet Walker and others.

    And those Converse All-Stars weren't a wry, hipster statement. They were state of the art.

    Sorry, J.J. All we can do is compare players to their contemporaries and by that standard, Bob Cousy was a great basketball player.

    The NBA was small change when Cousy started. By the time he left it was a much stronger league, expanding and getting more media exposure, with better salaries and he deserves a lot of credit for that. I wonder if J.J. knows what Cousy helped start the NBA Player's Union and was its first president and spent a pretty large chunk of his time and energy making sure NBA players didn't have to be dentists.
    Last edited by jimsumner; 05-22-2022 at 12:55 PM.

  8. #1668
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post

    Sorry, J.J. All we can do is compare players to their contemporaries and by that standard, Bob Cousy was a great basketball player.
    What was JJ wrong about? That Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand? I don’t know. But he wasn’t saying Cousy was a scrub, he was saying that his former running mate is an all time great PG.

    Does Cousy always have this kind of thin skin? Surprised he’s punching down at a guy like JJ, calling him out as a guy with less talent trying to make a name for himself by highlighting how different the NBA was when he played.

    I don’t know how anyone can listen to Chris Russo for more than 30 seconds without pouring cement into their ears. JJ must love what’s he’s doing to launch this new career.

  9. #1669
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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post

    Does Cousy always have this kind of thin skin?
    Didn’t always, no. He’s 90 though so no way his body is producing as much collagen as it used to.
    Last edited by -jk; 05-22-2022 at 06:46 PM. Reason: fix quote tag

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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    What was JJ wrong about? That Cousy couldn’t dribble with his left hand? I don’t know. But he wasn’t saying Cousy was a scrub, he was saying that his former running mate is an all time great PG.

    .
    You don't think he was being guarded by "plumbers and firemen" was a bit dismissive? Just a tad? Maybe a smidge?

    Roger Kahn's The Boys of Summer is one of the best baseball books every written. It's about those great Brooklyn Dodgers teams in the late 1940s and 1950s until they moved to L.A.

    Some of the best baseball players of all time. Most of them had off-season jobs. Carl Furillo ran a deli. Jackie Robinson sold TVs. Would it be accurate to dismiss Warren Spahn for pitching against "deli owners and TV salesmen?"

    Bob Cousy was absolutely critical in establishing and growing the NBA Player's Union against fierce ownership opposition. Maybe Redick should spend some of that valuable ESPN airtime thanking him for that.
    Last edited by jimsumner; 05-22-2022 at 09:52 PM.

  11. #1671
    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Didn’t always, no. He’s 90 though so no way his body is producing as much collagen as it used to.
    Such a sneaky good reply.

  12. #1672
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    The very first post in this thread…

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    I'll start the discussion with this photo of Jayson Tatum (linked by the DBR main page) --



    Holy #&#^!&!@

    Tatum is bringing it this season!
    And tonight, Tatum was named All-NBA first team alongside Joker, Luka, Giannis, and Booker. It is the first time since 1953 that all five first-teamed are under the age of 27.

    Future so bright…
    I don't know what you are doing right now, but if you aren't listening to the DBR Podcast, you're doing it wrong.

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    And this is the 2nd consecutive year that International born players out-numbered US-born players on the 1st team.

    Full list of All-NBA Teams
    https://www.nba.com/news/history-all-nba-teams

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    And this has probably been mentioned in other places before, but Jayson Tatum is the first former Duke player to earn 1st Team All-NBA since Grant Hill in 1997. Grant also made 2nd Team All-NBA 4 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roywhite View Post
    And this is the 2nd consecutive year that International born players out-numbered US-born players on the 1st team.

    Full list of All-NBA Teams
    https://www.nba.com/news/history-all-nba-teams
    With Jokic (or Embiid), Giannis, and Luka all being in their mid-20s, I suspect it is going to stay that way for a little bit.
    I don't know what you are doing right now, but if you aren't listening to the DBR Podcast, you're doing it wrong.

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    Huge congrats to Tatum!

    He's an All-star for the next 9 years. And hopefully all of those with the Celtics.

    We love you, Jayson! Okay, we love Deuce. You're just his talented dad who brings him to games.
    Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. - Winston Churchill

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    Kyrie Irving

    This is no big surprise from his history of playing time in the NBA.
    https://www.nj.com/nets/2022/05/the-...extension.html

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    Jalen Rose just admitted that he voted Kyrie Irving 3rd team All-NBA.

    His voting privileges should be taken away. I don't care how good Kyrie was in the games he played, making him 3rd team All-NBA when he barely played this season because of a choice he made... no way.

    https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1529623413546831872

    By the way, Jalen admits that it was a huge mistake. At least he owns up to his own stupidity.
    I don't know what you are doing right now, but if you aren't listening to the DBR Podcast, you're doing it wrong.

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    Great news on Zion getting cleared. Here’s hoping he stays healthy and reminds everyone what a spectacular talent he is next season!

  20. #1680
    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Great news on Zion getting cleared. Here’s hoping he stays healthy and reminds everyone what a spectacular talent he is next season!
    Feels like make or break for the young man. Hope he can blow more minds than sneakers.

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