Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[acdevil]

For discussion purposes when others have watched. Probably fair to leave out or hide spoilers for the time being.

I liked the first episode even though it seems like it was mostly laying background for the episodes to come.

[Lord Ash]

Thoroughly enjoyed it. Liked how much quiet time there was, liked how it seems to deal with social issues, and I actually appreciated how much cursing there was.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Ha!!!!

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[Acymetric]

Thoroughly enjoyed it. Liked how much quiet time there was, liked how it seems to deal with social issues, and I actually appreciated how much cursing there was.

Yeah, I like that it feels a little more adult oriented. On the other hand, these aren't really any of my favorite characters so I'm having some trouble getting invested in the show.

[DUKIECB]

Yeah, I like that it feels a little more adult oriented. On the other hand, these aren't really any of my favorite characters so I'm having some trouble getting invested in the show.

Same here. Also, is it just me or did the quarreling and bickering between Sam and Bucky grow tiresome? It felt overdone to me. I'm still on board but hoping it grabs my interest a little more.

[acdevil]

Bttt

Another decent episode. Not great, but good. I’m hoping the location of most of this weeks episode is a sign of things to come.

[CameronBornAndBred]

I've found 75% of the characters to be really annoying. Even though some of them are obviously designed to be that way, such as Walker, it is an annoying turn off to the show overall. In comparison, at three episodes in, the premise of WandaVision was annoying me, but the characters were engaging enough that they kept me coming back.
Right now for F&WS, I'm happy that there are only three more episodes to go. Hopefully that changes quickly.

I do enjoy Erin Kellyman. She was great in Solo as Enfys Nest; and while she isn't too far from that same character here, she's been given room to show off her range a little more. (PS, we'll see her next on TV in an adaptation of Willow, which could be fun.)

[CameronBornAndBred]

Ep 4 stepped it up a notch. I was not unhappy.

[acdevil]

Definitely picking it up a bit. Good ep.

[brevity]

"It's just Falcon, kid. Don't compare me to that former UNC basketball player."

[acdevil]

Really enjoyed this weeks episode. Interesting guest appearance as well.

[acdevil]

And there is a mid credit scene after this episode.

[Lord Ash]

And there is a mid credit scene after this episode.

Oh I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this.I'm a real wanker for saying this., there was? I missed it!

Yeah, interesting to see... SPOILER TIME...














The show is basically a setup for moving Sam from Falcon to Captain America. I'm fine with that.

Overall the show has been solid... not AMAZING, but solid. Shockingly little action, which I am okay with... I like a character driven show anyway, and the shows CAN be character driven at times when the movies cannot be.

Interesting note on the guest star, btw... she is apparently in the Black Widow movie. Thoughts are that she is assembling a counter-Avengers team.

[acdevil]

Well, the guest star was supposed to debut in Black Widow. There is now a question on if they will cut those scenes since the guest has now been introduced.

Agree with Lord Ash’s other comments. Series has been very character driven and I have liked how it has tackled race issues as well.

Looking forward to the season finale (I think there may be a second season for it being planned).

[acdevil]

Judging by the lack of posts here, I wonder what the lack of interest in this show vs Wanda Vision is due to.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Judging by the lack of posts here, I wonder what the lack of interest in this show vs Wanda Vision is due to.

Wanda Vision had the advantage of coming out during peak pandemic when we all wanted something new to watch.

Falcon came out in Spring, during March Madness, while people are eager to get back outside their houses

[CameronBornAndBred]

Guessing that the box Bucky brought Sam contains a Wakandan made Black Pantheresque Captain America suit. Or maybe one of those herbs, either would come in handy fighting against the rest of the Flag Smashers (and Walker) in the finale.

[Acymetric]

Wanda Vision had the advantage of coming out during peak pandemic when we all wanted something new to watch.

Falcon came out in Spring, during March Madness, while people are eager to get back outside their houses

I mean, I think the premise of Falcon/Winter Soldier is just less interesting on it's face. There was a huge mystery/intrigue factor with Wanda Vision (plus the sitcom gimmick in the beginning) that just isn't really present here. If other people are anything like me (seems unlikely) the lack of interest is just because the show doesn't seem all that exciting (and to be honest I don't think the cast is as strong either).

[Lord Ash]

I mean, I think the premise of Falcon/Winter Soldier is just less interesting on it's face. There was a huge mystery/intrigue factor with Wanda Vision (plus the sitcom gimmick in the beginning) that just isn't really present here. If other people are anything like me (seems unlikely) the lack of interest is just because the show doesn't seem all that exciting (and to be honest I don't think the cast is as strong either).

Agreed... Falcon/WS is just a very straight-forward show. Wandavision, there was a LOT to talk about and theorize about.

[crimsondevil]

I mean, I think the premise of Falcon/Winter Soldier is just less interesting on it's face. There was a huge mystery/intrigue factor with Wanda Vision (plus the sitcom gimmick in the beginning) that just isn't really present here. If other people are anything like me (seems unlikely) the lack of interest is just because the show doesn't seem all that exciting (and to be honest I don't think the cast is as strong either).

Agreed... Falcon/WS is just a very straight-forward show. Wandavision, there was a LOT to talk about and theorize about.

Yep.

There are some nice aspects of F&WS, though. I applaud Disney/Marvel for going straight at the racial angles - the commentary on racial issues was often pretty explicit, or at least can't-miss-it references, something they've tended to avoid, while not being over-the-top farcical - it might have been tempting to make Walker a racist caricature, for instance.

It's also notable that they've tried to make a villain (Carli) with real motivation, beyond the usual power-hungry, evil, greedy monster - ok, Thanos has a supposed philosophy, but c'mon. Unfortunately I don't think it's come off that well - they were calling her "radicalized" by the last episode, but she doesn't really seem that different - she and the Flag-smashers have been acting pretty much the same throughout. Compare that to Walker's development, for instance, and it comes up pretty short.

Couple random thoughts/questions while waiting for the last episode:

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-Sam needs some super-soldier serum/Wakandan herb/something more than a training montage. He got beat up pretty badly in the fight with Walker, and surely he'll be fighting several enhanced Flag-smashers. It seems like they're trying to make a point that he doesn't need it, but I'm not sure I buy it.
-Is Bucky done in the show, at least with the main plot? He just kinda walked away, and it's not clear that he is available for the last mission.
-What is Sharon Carter supposed to be doing? It was not clear to me what that scene where she was talking on the phone was supposed to be about.