Agree totally.
And any residential developments including the name "plantation"(of which there are many, usually affluent)should strongly consider a change.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...26f_story.html
Agree totally.
And any residential developments including the name "plantation"(of which there are many, usually affluent)should strongly consider a change.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...26f_story.html
"Play and practice like you are trying to make the team." --Coach K
Weirdly, in Mississippi, a number of those are no longer upscale.
They were so considered when they were built during the heyday of segregation academy establishment, but that was also when design standards for residential construction started tanking, so now they look like the 1960s weathered ranches in sidewalkless neighborhoods that they are. Unlike prewar masonry, they weren't really supposed to have a design life of more than about 50y (although that's better than the design life of perhaps only 30y that you've been seeing in the past few decades), and, the class of people that buy expensive housing in exurbs have moved fully to the McMansion aesthetic. Which will also look not only awful, but awful *and* old in another 20y. The problem with the chief value of something being that it's new is that nothing under the sun stays new.
So these were new upper middle class homes at the beginning of the planned obsolescence era. They're a little bit more built-to-last than the snouthouses and McMansions of 1990-to-housing bust, and so people still buy them and rehab as my parents' generation dies. But neither are they reflective of the supposed prestige of the "plantation" label, which of course was just marketing. One generation of white flighters' "plantation" is their grandchildren's generation's mess of grubby ranches that's not near anything except more ranches.
A. The word "plantation" was never used in any derogatory sense when I was a kid in SC. I am trying to think if "staying on your plantation" was ever used as a self-deprecating term like, "staying in your lane." But I don't remember that.
B. Throughout the tropics and many other places large farming operations are plantations -- such as pineapple, coffee, banana and probably more. I think the common agricultural use is to connote a large farm, but I admit that the terms doesn't ever seemed to be used in the U.S. outside the South.
C. Here's an odd use. I had a bird tour leader in Peru who had earned a master's degree at the Nicholas School at Duke. He said, in one class he asked the prof, "Why do you call it the Duke Forest, when it is really a 'plantation?'" His meaning was that a forest was a natural occurrence with wide range of trees, shrubs and wildlife, whereas the Duke Forest was intentionally planted with just a couple of species of trees. And, of course, David was an expert on triple-canopy tropical forests in the tropical lowlands of South America with every imaginable variety of plant and animal. When it came time for the final exam in this course, there was one question only: "Is the Duke Forest a forest or a plantation?" I think he got a good grade.
Anyway, Greg McDermott has been an outspoken coach for a long time. And I am sure the players were truly offended, but the derogatory use -- which I was not previously familiar with -- is not the main use of the term.
Sage Grouse
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'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013
I was listening to an old Louis Armstrong record yesterday which included his rendition of "Mame." The lyrics as written for the Broadway musical go like this:
You coax the blues right out of the horn, Mame
You charm the husk right off of the corn, Mame
You've got the banjos strummin' and plunkin' out a tune to beat the band
The whole plantation's hummin' since you brought Dixie back to Dixieland.
You make our cotton easy to pick, Mame
You give my old mint julep a kick, Mame
You make the old magnolia tree blossom at the mention of your name.
You've made us feel alive again, you've given us the drive again
to make the South revive again, Mame.
You brought the cakewalk back into style, Mame
You make the weeping willow tree smile, Mame
Your skin is Dixie satin, there's rebel in your manner and your speech
You may be from Manhattan, but Georgia never had a sweeter peach.
You make our blackeyed peas and our grits, Mame
Seem like the bill of fare at the Ritz, Mame
You came, you saw, you conquered and absolutely nothing is the same.
Your special fascination'll prove to be inspirational, we think you're just sensational,
Mame...Mame...Mame!
The Broadway musical is from circa 1966. My recording is also many decades old. As Satchmo sings it, he removes not only the reference to picking cotton, but also the reference to the plantation; I think he just sings, "You've got the whole place hummin" etc. instead of "The whole plantation's hummin".
Also, I was intrigued by Sage's point C above, using plantation in the sense of having been planted as opposed to having been formed naturally.
Finally, I had an aunt who lived in Plantation, Florida (near Ft. Lauderdale). I wonder if they'll ever change that.
Sage Grouse
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'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013
Uhh, I’m not too proud to admit I totally thought this thread was about Redick when I opened it and started reading it. JJ is still an active player, and I’d never seen Jalen referred to as JJ.
I don’t really care if people refer to him as JJ, but it did confuse me.
Sage Grouse
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'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013