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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    Isn't it possible that he wasn't under the influence, speeding, or looking at his phone, but merely driving a car he was unfamiliar with?
    Yes, I didn't mean to imply that those were the only possibilities (thus the "or whatever" after those 3). I was just pointing out that IF it was an issue like that (and I have no idea and I'm not implying that it was) then I wouldn't mind if they just let the legalities slide (again, those injuries would be punishment enough). My main point was that the curiosity is understandable giving the information at hand. I did not mean to be insensitive in any way and I really hope he has a good recovery (and I'm a guy that roots against him when he's golfing).

  2. #82
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    Also, probably not Tiger this week, but plenty of people are hammered drunk at 7am.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Also, probably not Tiger this week, but plenty of people are hammered drunk at 7am.
    Indeed. Quite a few deaths on the road at 7am caused by drunk people passing out or otherwise losing control of their cars during a morning commute. If you go to bed black out drunk at 3 am you likely are not sober at 7 am.

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    He was headed to work at 7 AM for an 8 PM appearance -- having worked all the previous day. I expect he was not DUI.
    Rough commute.

    -jk

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    Isn't it possible that he wasn't under the influence, speeding, or looking at his phone, but merely driving a car he was unfamiliar with?
    More than one of the sheriffs said he was driving well above the limit...I suspect we'll subsequently know how fast.

    Yes, I teed that one up on the "driving skills," that's my charitable donation for the day!

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by -jk View Post
    Rough commute.

    -jk
    Well, it *was* LA, after all. Although I suspect sage meant 8 A.
    "Amazing what a minute can do."

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripping William View Post
    Well, it *was* LA, after all. Although I suspect sage meant 8 A.
    which only makes it more fortunate that he didn't hit anyone in the two lanes of oncoming traffic he crossed..wouldn't pull that off at 4pm I'd guess...

  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by killerleft View Post
    I've never thought JD Power was reputable. Consumer Reports says that Genesis and Lincoln have experienced big drops in reliability this past year. For Genesis, this may be ominous, since the brand is only 3 years old.

    Not to change subjects, but I've always had a feeling that JD Power was just a shill for the auto industry, created to combat bad press.
    Ok, so let's say I give you that JD Power is a sham (I have no idea). Though we are a very tiny corner of the internet, I still say it is irresponsible to posit that Genesis is in any way responsible for the crash. Worse than positing on Tiger's state behind the wheel, we at least have a bit of history there. I find absolutely no evidence of Genesis vehicles having a malfunction and suddenly careening across a wide median, through two lanes of traffic, and then barrel-rolling through many yards of trees and brush. For pete's sake, it probably didn't even have 200 miles on it.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by dudog84 View Post
    Ok, so let's say I give you that JD Power is a sham (I have no idea). Though we are a very tiny corner of the internet, I still say it is irresponsible to posit that Genesis is in any way responsible for the crash. Worse than positing on Tiger's state behind the wheel, we at least have a bit of history there. I find absolutely no evidence of Genesis vehicles having a malfunction and suddenly careening across a wide median, through two lanes of traffic, and then barrel-rolling through many yards of trees and brush. For pete's sake, it probably didn't even have 200 miles on it.
    I feel casting aspirations on Genesis is exactly as far as casting them on Tiger. It was precise why I brought it up.

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by dudog84 View Post
    Ok, so let's say I give you that JD Power is a sham (I have no idea). Though we are a very tiny corner of the internet, I still say it is irresponsible to posit that Genesis is in any way responsible for the crash. Worse than positing on Tiger's state behind the wheel, we at least have a bit of history there. I find absolutely no evidence of Genesis vehicles having a malfunction and suddenly careening across a wide median, through two lanes of traffic, and then barrel-rolling through many yards of trees and brush. For pete's sake, it probably didn't even have 200 miles on it.
    Sorry. I agree with you. Chances are certainly much, much better that operator error was the reason that Genesis crashed. Although the number of recalls for new and used autos suggests that chances are way better than zero that many cars are flawed upon delivery.
    Man, if your Mom made you wear that color when you were a baby, and you're still wearing it, it's time to grow up!

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by killerleft View Post
    For Genesis, this may be ominous, since the brand is only 3 years old.
    Its a sub brand of Hyundai. The cars have been around for a decade plus. Originally Hyundai wanted to start it has their luxury division like Toyota did with Lexus. Market conditions said otherwise so they started selling it as a high end Hyundai (sans any Hyundai markings). When it was released with was by far the best bang for the buck luxury car but had no cachet. Eventually Hyundai separated from the main brand after it became established.

    Its looking likely this was a accident caused by driver error...speeding, fatigue or unfamiliarity with the road or some combination. It was lucky there wasnt anyone else involved. Its going to be a tough recovery.

  12. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Also, probably not Tiger this week, but plenty of people are hammered drunk at 7am.
    I will accept as credible your expertise on this subject.
    Sage Grouse

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  13. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdogg View Post
    Its a sub brand of Hyundai. The cars have been around for a decade plus. Originally Hyundai wanted to start it has their luxury division like Toyota did with Lexus. Market conditions said otherwise so they started selling it as a high end Hyundai (sans any Hyundai markings). When it was released with was by far the best bang for the buck luxury car but had no cachet. Eventually Hyundai separated from the main brand after it became established.

    Its looking likely this was a accident caused by driver error...speeding, fatigue or unfamiliarity with the road or some combination. It was lucky there wasnt anyone else involved. Its going to be a tough recovery.
    Good Genesis summary...highly touted but uninspiring vehicles. In any event, this is not how they saw things playing out when they lent Tiger the car...

  14. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    Good Genesis summary...highly touted but uninspiring vehicles. In any event, this is not how they saw things playing out when they lent Tiger the car...
    Are you trying to be cute with the golfing analogies? The first could be said about most any golfer not named Tiger. Last weekend was a joint Tiger/Genesis event. Playing out I should leave alone, because unfortunately Tiger is very likely done as a player (though I think he will remain a force in golf...he's that much bigger than the sport).

  15. #95
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    As tweeted by someone: I know more about Tiger Woods accident than where to find a vaccine for my parents.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    Isn't it possible that he wasn't under the influence, speeding, or looking at his phone, but merely driving a car he was unfamiliar with?
    Id think hed be familiar with the brake pedal no matter the car.

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