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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWayne View Post
    All of this discussion of how other teams losing makes us look better is discouraging. If you can only get in the tournament because other teams are worse, I would expect you won't last long. Duke needs to keep improving and to win games to make the resume better. If that doesn't happen, then so be it.
    i don't think anyone is equating duke's chances of making the tournament with duke's chances of lasting long.
    basketball is back, baby!

  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by uh_no View Post
    i don't think anyone is equating duke's chances of making the tournament with duke's chances of lasting long.
    Undeniably true...but having said that, I can think of more touted Duke teams that have staggered into the tournament and departed quickly...if this team continues to improve (and shoot like demons) I could see this team winning a few tourney games..but that's a couple of very big ifs.

  3. #163
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    Hey good news, my season preview book from the Iron Dukes arrived in the mail today.

  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    Hey good news, my season preview book from the Iron Dukes arrived in the mail today.
    I know people who are still waiting for Christmas packages to arrive.

    As an aside, is that the one where I wrote about Joey Baker breaking out or the one where I praised Jalen Johnson as Duke's next superstar?

  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    I know people who are still waiting for Christmas packages to arrive.

    As an aside, is that the one where I wrote about Joey Baker breaking out or the one where I praised Jalen Johnson as Duke's next superstar?
    Joey. But don't worry, there's a lot of wrong stuff in there, like the media poll that said the men would finish in second place, and the working assumption that the women would have a season at all.

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by CDu View Post
    Given that MSU has now won against two top-5 teams this week and are sitting at 13-9 with a win at Cameron over us, I don't think we want them winning either of the games against Michigan.

    Had MSU lost either of the games against Illinois and Ohio State, I'd be on board. But a team with 3 wins over top-10 teams would probably jump ahead of us in the seeding race.

    I think MSU will maintain their top-75 status even with losses in both of the Michigan games.

    I mean, we are probably fine either way as long as we win 2 of our last 3 and at least one ACC tourney game. But no reason to encourage more difficulty.
    Wouldn't Mich St. already be ahead of us? Their wins against Illinois and Ohio St. are both better than any of ours, they beat us head-to-head, they have no Q3 losses (whereas we have one) and the vastly stronger Big 10 is going to mean that our comparatively better conference record carries little weight.

  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nugget View Post
    Wouldn't Mich St. already be ahead of us? Their wins against Illinois and Ohio St. are both better than any of ours, they beat us head-to-head, they have no Q3 losses (whereas we have one) and the vastly stronger Big 10 is going to mean that our comparatively better conference record carries little weight.
    They are currently a bit ahead of us. If they lose out and we take 2 or 3, we would pass them back. If they take 2 of 2, we probably stay behind them. Hence, we donít them to beat Michigan.

  8. #168
    Funny how not long ago people were writing off MSU because of their upcoming brutal schedule, while I was thinking that they get A LOT of opportunities for great wins. Obviously, they've still had to play very well, but clearly they've taken advantage of their opportunities so far. And for the record, the committee has explicitly stated they care ZERO about conference record or standings. They just care about wins and losses and who they were to. I think it was Nebraska a few years ago that had a very gaudy Big 10 record but didn't make the tournament because their schedule was loaded with conference bottom feeders...

  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedog View Post
    Funny how not long ago people were writing off MSU because of their upcoming brutal schedule, while I was thinking that they get A LOT of opportunities for great wins. Obviously, they've still had to play very well, but clearly they've taken advantage of their opportunities so far. And for the record, the committee has explicitly stated they care ZERO about conference record or standings. They just care about wins and losses and who they were to. I think it was Nebraska a few years ago that had a very gaudy Big 10 record but didn't make the tournament because their schedule was loaded with conference bottom feeders...
    I'm assuming you mean bottom dwellers. Nebraska sounds like the bottom feeder in that situation.

    SLU is barely in the tournament discussion I suppose, but they just beat Richmond.

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by throatybeard View Post
    I'm assuming you mean bottom dwellers. Nebraska sounds like the bottom feeder in that situation.

    SLU is barely in the tournament discussion I suppose, but they just beat Richmond.
    Ha yes... apologies. Chose the wrong word.

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