I agree with you. I think the rules are too favorable to the offense. They make it too easy. This rule should remain. In addition the one that bugs me is the "ground can't cause a fumble" rule. Why can't it? I think these offensive players should have to be able to take a hit, fall to the ground and hang on to the fricking ball. Should be part of completing the play as a ball carrier or receiver. If you can't hang onto the ball when you hit the ground, you lose it. Fumble. That would be the rule if it was up to me.
I think there are a lot of good arguments to be made that things are too easy for offenses now (I agree there). That isn't a good argument in favor of a bad rule that favors the defense. Fix this rule, which rarely comes into play anyway so it isn't some grand leveling factor for the defense, and find other rules to tweak to balance out the offense and defense that actually make sense. Of course, the league isn't going to want to reduce scoring, as the genie is kind of out of the bottle as far as offenses putting up megapoints and I don't think we're ever going back, but that is a whole other conversation (not saying I think it is a positive development).
Exactly, and that's the crux of my dislike for him (more so than the Chiefs in general) right now. Stop trying to make fetch happen, as my 25 year old daughter would say.
This isn't a good comparison at all, and I'm going to assume you haven't really followed the Bucs this year. Living in Florida I get to watch each game, and have done so this year, closely monitoring Brady's arm strength and accuracy. Because it's Arians' offense, Tom has thrown more deep balls this year than I can ever remember him throwing in New England in over a decade. And when he misses, it's almost always long - not short. Right now he is nothing like old Peyton Manning or old Drew Breese. Brady still has a ton of arm strength. The only thing I've seen decline in him is some accuracy, but that's been going on for a few years now. But it's definitely not true that he's been unable to push the ball downfield and that he relies solely on dinks and such. Not at all.
Correct. He has plenty of strength left in his arm. His mind is as sharp as ever. And his desire to win hasn't subsided in the least. If anything prevents Tom from competing at a high level in the next year or two, my guess is it would be his legs way before it would be his arm.
Maybe the lack of arm strength had something to do with playing home games in NE. The weather in Tampa is much better and rumor has it that a new stadium with a retractable roof is on the way. So, he'll have at least one more year to play in warm weather for home games, @ Carolina,@ Atlanta and @NO. That's some nice weather for an older QB to play in. Not so much in the AFC East with the exception of Miami.
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Tom Brady had a 4 game stretch this year where he was 0-19 with 3 picks on deep balls. If folks want to pretend he hasn't lost something with his ability to throw deep I guess I can't help you.
Something I agree with, and made perfectly clear when I made the original point about his ability to throw deep declining. The stats don't lie, he was bad downfield this year, despite having better downfield weapons than he's had since Moss. He is also still capable of playing at an elite level in the short and mid range game, and clearly that is enough.
Have you watched every Bucs game this year? Well I have. Brady was very bad early on with the long throws because he and his receivers were just learning each other. He’s certainly gotten better with the deep ball, and he has not lost any arm with those passes. I’m telling you straight up he hasn’t lost his ability to throw the deep ones.
But believe what you want.
Hey Acymetric, this one’s for you!!
A quarterback who is known as a risk taker will always keep a defense honest. That defense has to plan around the deep shots, leaving safeties back and loading the box at a lower rate.
With that in mind which quarterbacks have thrown deep the most so far in the 2020 season?
Number of Throws
Tom Brady 83
Matt Ryan 75
Aaron Rodgers 72
Patrick Mahomes 66
Josh Allen 65
Ben Roethlisberger 65
Drew Lock 64
Matthew Stafford 62
Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady ends the year as the league-leader in deep passes attempted.
Overall:
Points Earned is one way to determine which quarterbacks have made the largest positive impact while throwing the deep ball. The core assumption of passing Points Earned is that each throw has a certain expected outcome based on information like the route, the depth, and the coverage. From that point, the passer and receiver split responsibility for how well they perform above that expectation. Throwing off-target passes and deserved interceptions (caught or not) will bury a signal-caller, while he will be rewarded for leading receivers to more yards after catch and making something out of a broken pocket.
This following stat shows which quarterback has helped his team win the most when throwing the deep ball:
Rank Player Points Earned
1 Aaron Rodgers 46.5
2 Tom Brady 28.9
3 Derek Carr 28.4
4 Deshaun Watson 26.2
5 Matthew Stafford 20.6
6 Kyler Murray 20
7 Daniel Jones 19.9
8 Russell Wilson 18.9
9 Patrick Mahomes 18.8
10 Justin Herbert 13.5
This. The current rules favor the passing game. Everybody says Brady (or Brees, or Manning) is the GOAT. Nonsense. If QB's from an earlier age had had the rules and norms now in place, what do you think would be the passing yardage, TD's, etc. of quarterbacks like Unitas? Montana? I understand recent bias, but every five minutes somebody comes along who's the greatest of all time. That's garbage. I'll take Unitas, Montana, Starr, Staubach, against any of the current faves.
I have been very impressed with Buffalo, but Kansas City with Mahomes has won 24 of its last 25 games.
Heart says the Bills; head says the Chiefs.
Thoughts ?
A LOT more than the rules would need to be different in order for those older guys to have any level of success in the game today. Everyone's bigger, stronger, faster, smarter; schemes are more complex. No reason to believe they could compete like the did in the smokes and beer days.