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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallcity View Post
    "Per Wendell Moore, Jalen Johnson is around the team and getting closer to returning but has yet to practice."
    https://twitter.com/ArmstrongABC11/s...443947009?s=20
    Yup, I was the one who asked Wendell about Jalen at Wendell's news conference today. Wendell certainly made it sound like Jalen is engaged and excited to get back to playing. He is attending practices but not playing yet. We won't see him this weekend, I am sure, but maybe next weekend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Yup, I was the one who asked Wendell about Jalen at Wendell's news conference today. Wendell certainly made it sound like Jalen is engaged and excited to get back to playing. He is attending practices but not playing yet. We won't see him this weekend, I am sure, but maybe next weekend?
    Just waiting for all of the non-DBR geniuses to come with their take of He should pack it in for the rest of the season and just enter the draft. Why should he risk further injury and the possibility of damaging his long-term career prospects when hes not even getting paid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven43 View Post
    Just waiting for all of the non-DBR geniuses to come with their take of He should pack it in for the rest of the season and just enter the draft. Why should he risk further injury and the possibility of damaging his long-term career prospects when hes not even getting paid?
    They might hold off a bit, expecting the season will cancel itself.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Steven43 View Post
    Just waiting for all of the non-DBR geniuses to come with their take of He should pack it in for the rest of the season and just enter the draft. Why should he risk further injury and the possibility of damaging his long-term career prospects when hes not even getting paid?
    Zion was a phenomenon, Jalen not so much yet. I don't expect any hot takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven43 View Post
    Just waiting for all of the non-DBR geniuses to come with their take of He should pack it in for the rest of the season and just enter the draft. Why should he risk further injury and the possibility of damaging his long-term career prospects when hes not even getting paid?
    Quote Originally Posted by Troublemaker View Post
    Zion was a phenomenon, Jalen not so much yet. I don't expect any hot takes.
    Yeah, Jalen is not a guaranteed top three pick like Zion or James Wiseman. I doubt we hear anyone with this take.
    Hard at work making beautiful things.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Steven43 View Post
    Just waiting for all of the non-DBR geniuses to come with their take of He should pack it in for the rest of the season and just enter the draft. Why should he risk further injury and the possibility of damaging his long-term career prospects when hes not even getting paid?
    The absolute worst! That take drove me crazy when it was all we heard after Zion's injury. Zion clearly wanted to play yet people for some reason felt like they should make the decision for him.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Steven43 View Post
    Just waiting for all of the non-DBR geniuses to come with their take of He should pack it in for the rest of the season and just enter the draft. Why should he risk further injury and the possibility of damaging his long-term career prospects when hes not even getting paid?
    Because at the moment he is a project in the NBA. Great raw talent but not yet a great basketball player. He had one good game in college against a low level team. Clearly he needs to show more but you never know- scouts will love his potential.

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    DBR brethren, do you not recall it He should not set foot on a college court again. Just heal and get ready for the draft young man. being opined by a considerable number of people about Cole Anthony after he got hurt last year? And his draft stock had already fallen at that point.

    So no, its not just super-elite (top 3 picks) prospects about which it is said/suggested.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Steven43 View Post
    DBR brethren, do you not recall it He should not set foot on a college court again. Just heal and get ready for the draft young man. being opined by a considerable number of people about Cole Anthony after he got hurt last year? And his draft stock had already fallen at that point.

    So no, its not just super-elite (top 3 picks) prospects about which it is said/suggested.
    Good point. There's still a minimum level of fame needed to be hot-take-worthy, though. Cole Anthony started the season as a top-3 draft pick (with many thinking he should go #1), and while he didn't play great, his injury was blamed for the Heels' struggles. Jalen was mocked mostly in the 6 to 10 range and has played 4 games of "meh" so far in college basketball. He hasn't built up that notoriety yet.

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    As an aside, Wendell Moore told the media today that Henry Coleman was working at small forward now. Not sure if any of this is related to Johnson's injury or simply finding another way to get Coleman on the court more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublemaker View Post
    Good point. There's still a minimum level of fame needed to be hot-take-worthy, though. Cole Anthony started the season as a top-3 draft pick (with many thinking he should go #1), and while he didn't play great, his injury was blamed for the Heels' struggles. Jalen was mocked mostly in the 6 to 10 range and has played 4 games of "meh" so far in college basketball. He hasn't built up that notoriety yet.
    Great points, as always.

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    Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    As an aside, Wendell Moore told the media today that Henry Coleman was working at small forward now. Not sure if any of this is related to Johnson's injury or simply finding another way to get Coleman on the court more.
    Hard to imagine. Henry doesnt seem to have obvious offensive perimeter skills, based on the few minutes Ive seen, but perhaps he has more tha he has shown.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    As an aside, Wendell Moore told the media today that Henry Coleman was working at small forward now. Not sure if any of this is related to Johnson's injury or simply finding another way to get Coleman on the court more.
    FSU has a huge perimeter, probably the biggest in the ACC.

    That said, my first instinct is that it'd still be better for JGold to guard, say, Scottie Barnes, than Henry. But we'll see. (And obviously nobody would be shocked if, despite practicing at SF, Henry got a DNP-CD again against FSU).

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    I remember the summer before his junior year there was talk about moving Javin DeLaurier to the 3 position for a similar reason - the front court was just too crowded and it was the only way to get him on the court. I don't think we've seen enough of Coleman to know one way or another how he would perform at any position. All we really know is that everyone speaks highly of him, he seems like a great kid off the court, he's physically strong and he has a repuation for being a high energy guy.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    As an aside, Wendell Moore told the media today that Henry Coleman was working at small forward now. Not sure if any of this is related to Johnson's injury or simply finding another way to get Coleman on the court more.
    I like this. We really don't have anyone on the team that is a true SF. The key is not perimeter skills on offense, but rather on defense. DJ and Jordan can defend the SF position if we're pressing, but in a halfcourt situation both are kind of small. Plus, assuming we start with the three-guard lineup, someone needs to back up that position. Wendell can play SF, but seems better at smallball PF. Same with Joey. I'm still not convinced Jalen or Jaemyn or Matthew can guard the perimeter effectively, so if Henry can effectively guard opposing SFs, he could carve out a role.

    And if he can guard out there, it will be even more helpful next season, when we'll be even bigger and may have even fewer perimeter defenders.

  16. #76
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    I remember the summer before his junior year there was talk about moving Javin DeLaurier to the 3 position for a similar reason - the front court was just too crowded and it was the only way to get him on the court. I don't think we've seen enough of Coleman to know one way or another how he would perform at any position. All we really know is that everyone speaks highly of him, he seems like a great kid off the court, he's physically strong and he has a repuation for being a high energy guy.
    I think you mean Javin's sophomore year when, yes, he was given some time at the 3 due to the frontcourt being stacked with Wendell, Marvin, and Marques.

    The great news is this move, if it happens and isn't just some practice curiosity, can much more easily generate coherent lineups since we have two stretch bigs in Hurt and Brakefield. If you play those two together with Henry, you're not necessarily killing your spacing like you did when Javin played the 3 with the 2018 bigs.

    I do wonder how much Henry will play offensive SF instead of defensive SF. He's a very athletic guy who might be a physical driver who draws fouls and is a good shooter from the free throw line. Statistically, Duke's biggest offensive weakness is lack of foul drawing (with turnovers being second), and I wonder if Coach is going to run some sets to get Henry driving to the basket. An example might be entering the ball into Jaemyn or Matt at the elbow in horns and have them dribble-handoff to Henry to create space between him and his defender before he goes to the basket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublemaker View Post
    I think you mean Javin's sophomore year when, yes, he was given some time at the 3 due to the frontcourt being stacked with Wendell, Marvin, and Marques.

    The great news is this move, if it happens and isn't just some practice curiosity, can much more easily generate coherent lineups since we have two stretch bigs in Hurt and Brakefield. If you play those two together with Henry, you're not necessarily killing your spacing like you did when Javin played the 3 with the 2018 bigs.

    I do wonder how much Henry will play offensive SF instead of defensive SF. He's a very athletic guy who might be a physical driver who draws fouls and is a good shooter from the free throw line. Statistically, Duke's biggest offensive weakness is lack of foul drawing (with turnovers being second), and I wonder if Coach is going to run some sets to get Henry driving to the basket. An example might be entering the ball into Jaemyn or Matt at the elbow in horns and have them dribble-handoff to Henry to create space between him and his defender before he goes to the basket.
    Since I've not seen Henry get much playing time, I have no idea how he'll do in an ACC game. I did like the defensive stance he had in the one game I saw. By using him as SF, this can help keep DJ and Jordan out of foul trouble and if we get some offense from him, that's icing on the cake.

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    Not related to Jalen Johnson but the black jerseys are back tomorrow. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    As an aside, Wendell Moore told the media today that Henry Coleman was working at small forward now. Not sure if any of this is related to Johnson's injury or simply finding another way to get Coleman on the court more.
    And by "told the media" what Jim means is "Jason asked a question about practice and Wendell shocked all of us by saying Henry is playing on the perimeter."



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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    As an aside, Wendell Moore told the media today that Henry Coleman was working at small forward now. Not sure if any of this is related to Johnson's injury or simply finding another way to get Coleman on the court more.
    I think Coleman might be a decent defensive option on Scottie Barnes - he's got great foot work and size with a good motor.
    Just . . . he's a little raw on the offensive end.

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