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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtnorthrup View Post
    Mark Gilbert also underwent surgery on his foot.

    VERY UNGOOD NEWS today.
    Serious blow to cornerback depth.
    Bob Green

  2. #22
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    So sorry to hear for both Mark & Josh. Unfortunately, we're keeping Dr. Amendola pretty busy it appears.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie View Post
    Were they practicing in Cameron?😡
    I blame Nike. This never happened when we wore Adidas.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixthman View Post
    Football is a contact sport, played best with some material level of aggressiveness. We lacked that against BC, and based on the comments from coaches and players since the game, they seem to focus more on a lack of basic execution. Coach is the expert, so whatever. As a fan, the unbearable part of that game was not the turnovers as much as the fact that BC wanted it more than we did.
    I only saw parts of the game, but would agree that the difference in physicality was readily apparent (BC hit much harder than ND in my view). But physicality has been a hallmark of the BC program going back to the Tom Coughlin days, so it was on Cut and staff to have our guys prepared for that. It sure didn't look that way, though, and we seemed to shrink from the moment more and more as the game went on.

  5. #25
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    Vermont
    I think we've run out of excuses, given the number of severe clunker games in the past year or two.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    I think we've run out of excuses, given the number of severe clunker games in the past year or two.
    This has been the biggest change (per the eye test) for me in the last few years. We used to play very conservative, don't beat yourself football. We won the turnover and penalties battles. We played bend don't break defense and forced the other teams to match our discipline.

    I don't see that brand of football anymore.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtnorthrup View Post
    This has been the biggest change (per the eye test) for me in the last few years. We used to play very conservative, don't beat yourself football. We won the turnover and penalties battles. We played bend don't break defense and forced the other teams to match our discipline.

    I don't see that brand of football anymore.
    That seems to me like Virginia-basketball-style football.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by camion View Post
    That seems to me like Virginia-basketball-style football.
    It sure works for the Cavs(Virginia style).

  9. #29
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    Norfolk, VA
    Who starts at cornerback with Blackwell and Gilbert out?

    My guess:

    1. Leonard Johnson and Jeremiah Lewis

    Or

    2. Leonard Johnson and Michael Carter II

    Carter has game experience at corner and the team remains deep at safety so moving him to corner is an option.
    Bob Green

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Who starts at cornerback with Blackwell and Gilbert out?

    My guess:

    1. Leonard Johnson and Jeremiah Lewis

    Or

    2. Leonard Johnson and Michael Carter II

    Carter has game experience at corner and the team remains deep at safety so moving him to corner is an option.
    I hate the injuries, but I think Johnson and Carter will perform well.
    "This is the best of all possible worlds."
    Dr. Pangloss - Candide

  11. #31
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    yeah, I don't think defense, even with the injuries is our major concern. Finding a pulse, any pulse, on our offense is what is so badly required.

  12. #32
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    Uniform:

    Blue helmet with black Iron D, White jersey, Blue pants
    Bob Green

  13. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Uniform:

    Blue helmet with black Iron D, White jersey, Blue pants
    Nice look. I have to say, this year's uniform reveal on twitter is not very satisfying - they don't show the final product.
    "This is the best of all possible worlds."
    Dr. Pangloss - Candide

  14. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    Nice look.
    Duke last wore the Blue-White-Blue combination in 2018 at Northwestern (21-7 victory).
    Bob Green

  15. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Duke last wore the Blue-White-Blue combination in 2018 at Northwestern (21-7 victory).
    My favorite road combo by a wide margin. I think white outlining of the black Iron Duke D would help, though.

  16. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvdahops View Post
    My favorite road combo by a wide margin. I think white outlining of the black Iron Duke D would help, though.
    Oh, it's a good look no doubt...but the helmet should be blue with the white Duke script 😏.

  17. #37

    Have to prepare a college football team for tough physical play?

    Quote Originally Posted by luvdahops View Post
    I only saw parts of the game, but would agree that the difference in physicality was readily apparent (BC hit much harder than ND in my view). But physicality has been a hallmark of the BC program going back to the Tom Coughlin days, so it was on Cut and staff to have our guys prepared for that. It sure didn't look that way, though, and we seemed to shrink from the moment more and more as the game went on.
    I agree with you guys more than I disagree, but I have to say that any decent football team, at any level, comprised of guys WHO LOVE TO PLAY FOOTBALL! -- should not have to be "prepared" to face a "physical" opponent! My size got me only to HS football, but I don't know any of us who had to be prepared for the other team's physicality. We couldn't wait to impose our our physicality on them. That is one of the essential joys of playing football!

    And this does bother me very much about what I watched on Saturday. BC's O line did seem bigger and stronger, but where was our ferocity? I just don't understand how a good college team can shrink from being challenged physically.

    Finally, it's pretty obvious, isn't it, that any winning team has to excel at both physical play and smart execution? These aren't elective choices. I saw so many times where we were both non ferocious and also out of position. sigh.
    “I love it. Coach, when we came here, we had a three-hour meeting about the core values. If you really represent the core values, it means diving on the floor, sacrificing your body for your teammates, no matter how much you’re up by or how much you’re down by, always playing hard.” -- Zion

  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by hustleplays View Post
    I agree with you guys more than I disagree, but I have to say that any decent football team, at any level, comprised of guys WHO LOVE TO PLAY FOOTBALL! -- should not have to be "prepared" to face a "physical" opponent! My size got me only to HS football, but I don't know any of us who had to be prepared for the other team's physicality. We couldn't wait to impose our our physicality on them. That is one of the essential joys of playing football!

    And this does bother me very much about what I watched on Saturday. BC's O line did seem bigger and stronger, but where was our ferocity? I just don't understand how a good college team can shrink from being challenged physically.

    Finally, it's pretty obvious, isn't it, that any winning team has to excel at both physical play and smart execution? These aren't elective choices. I saw so many times where we were both non ferocious and also out of position. sigh.
    I agree on the physical play of our Blue Devils. It looks like in some games it's men against boys, with Duke being the boys. I know a lot of teams are bigger than our guys but that shouldn't mean our guys can't be just as physical. It comes down to "attitude". Like the tale of where the head coach is talking to an assistant coach about a prospect they are recruiting. The head coach says, see that play. The guys knocks the other player down and he get's jumps back up. The assistant says, yeh coach, we want that player that got right back up. The head coach says, no way, we want that kid who just knocked the other one down. Duke needs more players that are knocking the opponent down.

    GoDuke!

  19. #39
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    I believe much of this non-physical play discussion is overblown. Duke's defense sacked the BC quarterback multiple times. Our defensive line is plenty physical.
    Bob Green

  20. #40
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    My sad prediction - Cavs 31 - Devils 16
    "This is the best of all possible worlds."
    Dr. Pangloss - Candide

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