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  1. #81
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    Any idea when all of the scheduling becomes official?

    Gduke.com still has the 2019-20 schedule. The depressing thing is that Countdown to Craziness was on Oct 18, 2019 about 1 year ago and we still are in limbo about 2020-21.

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Near as I can tell, this is going to be the schedule:

    11/25 - Gardner-Webb at Duke
    12/1 - Champion's Classic vs Michigan St in Orlando
    12/4 - Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/5 - Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/8 or 12/9 - Big Ten Challenge against TBA probably at Duke (Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa being most likely opponents)

    There will be one more game, I am pretty sure. I could see something on 11/28 or 29 or something on 12/12 or 12/13.

    -Jason "I hope we get a good team for that last game, maybe a Big East, SEC, or B12 team. Would like to see us do more than play small schools and the Big Ten" Evans
    So, with Charleston Southern taking that 12/12 spot, I think the only spot left on the schedule is probably Thanksgiving weekend 11/29 or 29... unless we do something closer to Christmas, which is not something Duke has traditionally done.
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    So, with Charleston Southern taking that 12/12 spot, I think the only spot left on the schedule is probably Thanksgiving weekend 11/29 or 29... unless we do something closer to Christmas, which is not something Duke has traditionally done.
    Do we know when ACC season starts? We have not always wanted to make a conference game the first one after the holiday break. We are often rusty.

  4. #84
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    I think we can be sure this season will be like no recent one.

    -jk

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by -jk View Post
    I think we can be sure this season will be like no recent one.

    -jk
    Very Nantzian of you! A season like no other...

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    Very Nantzian of you! A season like no other...
    Yeah, I don't know about that term. That one needs to go back to the workshop a bit.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    Very Nantzian of you! A season like no other...
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Yeah, I don't know about that term. That one needs to go back to the workshop a bit.
    At first, I thought he had misspelled "Nietzschean." Budwom's got a lot of time to read philosophy in the woods up there.
    Sage Grouse

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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    At first, I thought he had misspelled "Nietzschean." Budwom's got a lot of time to read philosophy in the woods up there.
    Nietzche is not readable
    (I've tried)

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    Very Nantzian of you! A season unlike any other...
    FIFY

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Near as I can tell, this is going to be the schedule:

    11/25 - Gardner-Webb at Duke
    12/1 - Champion's Classic vs Michigan St in Orlando
    12/4 - Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/5 - Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/8 or 12/9 - Big Ten Challenge against TBA probably at Duke (Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa being most likely opponents)

    There will be one more game, I am pretty sure. I could see something on 11/28 or 29 or something on 12/12 or 12/13.

    -Jason "I hope we get a good team for that last game, maybe a Big East, SEC, or B12 team. Would like to see us do more than play small schools and the Big Ten" Evans
    With the front-page news that Duke will be hosting Charleston Southern, we are inching closer to a 27-game regular season.

    11/25: Gardner-Webb at Duke
    12/1: Champions Classic vs. MSU @ Orlando
    12/4: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/5: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/8 or 9: ACC-B1G Challenge, most like at Duke
    12/12: Charleston Southern at Duke

    I still expect to see one more non-conference game before ACC play, most likely the weekend after November 25th. And then the ACC scheduled can begin in earnest after the 12th of December.

  11. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    With the front-page news that Duke will be hosting Charleston Southern, we are inching closer to a 27-game regular season.

    11/25: Gardner-Webb at Duke
    12/1: Champions Classic vs. MSU @ Orlando
    12/4: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/5: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/8 or 9: ACC-B1G Challenge, most like at Duke
    12/12: Charleston Southern at Duke

    I still expect to see one more non-conference game before ACC play, most likely the weekend after November 25th. And then the ACC scheduled can begin in earnest after the 12th of December.
    Worth noting that a bunch of teams are going to be bubbling up in Orlando over Thanksgiving weekend. If we want to add another game just before playing MSU, there will be like 20 potential teams who could do it including both Baylor and Gonzaga.
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Worth noting that a bunch of teams are going to be bubbling up in Orlando over Thanksgiving weekend. If we want to add another game just before playing MSU, there will be like 20 potential teams who could do it including both Baylor and Gonzaga.
    Yep, and Duke could use the TV money from a big neutral site game.

  13. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallcity View Post
    Yep, and Duke could use the TV money from a big neutral site game.
    "Big" for the crowd?

    -jk

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    the America East conference announced today they will begin league play Dec 19...each team plays all others twice, BUT all games will be on Saturday and Sunday (back to back) at one location to limit travel.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    the America East conference announced today they will begin league play Dec 19...each team plays all others twice, BUT all games will be on Saturday and Sunday (back to back) at one location to limit travel.
    I guess without home crowds it is fairish.

    Can you imagine Duke/UNC on back to back nights? I would need heart assistance in between.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    With the front-page news that Duke will be hosting Charleston Southern, we are inching closer to a 27-game regular season.

    11/25: Gardner-Webb at Duke
    12/1: Champions Classic vs. MSU @ Orlando
    12/4: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/5: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/8 or 9: ACC-B1G Challenge, most likely at Duke
    12/12: Charleston Southern at Duke

    I still expect to see one more non-conference game before ACC play, most likely the weekend after November 25th. And then the ACC scheduled can begin in earnest after the 12th of December.
    It looks like we have an almost complete non-conference schedule. Duke will host Coppin State on Saturday, November 28th. Now we just need confirmation of the Champions Classic and the ACC-B1G opponent.

    11/25: Gardner-Webb at Duke
    11/28: Coppin State at Duke
    12/1: Champions Classic vs. MSU @ Orlando
    12/4: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/5: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/8 or 9: ACC-B1G Challenge, most likely at Duke
    12/12: Charleston Southern at Duke

    It's not the most robust non-conference schedule. Then again, there is this thing called COVID that is causing havoc right now. I'm not going to judge any team for their non-conference schedule this season.

  17. #97
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    Well that gives us an HBCU opponent, which we were lacking by avoiding Howard. So that’s good. Agree that overall the non conference schedule is weak - basically the two “tournaments” plus a bunch of no-name schools unlikely to be competitive. But that’s along the lines of what we’ve seen in recent years, and the team will need those tune-up games.

  18. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    It looks like we have an almost complete non-conference schedule. Duke will host Coppin State on Saturday, November 28th. Now we just need confirmation of the Champions Classic and the ACC-B1G opponent.

    11/25: Gardner-Webb at Duke
    11/28: Coppin State at Duke
    12/1: Champions Classic vs. MSU @ Orlando
    12/4: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/5: Elon or Bellarmine at Duke
    12/8 or 9: ACC-B1G Challenge, most likely at Duke
    12/12: Charleston Southern at Duke

    It's not the most robust non-conference schedule. Then again, there is this thing called COVID that is causing havoc right now. I'm not going to judge any team for their non-conference schedule this season.
    The four supposedly easy games (I remember SF Austin) are "Momma" games. The scholarship guys down the bench get lots of playing time, not only for their own benefit, but also so their families can see them play in a Duke uniform.
    Sage Grouse

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  19. #99
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    I will admit to a degree of disappointment at this non-conference schedule, as I mentioned here earlier when we backed out of the Battle for South Dakota (or whatever), but I suppose I understand the logic. With a schedule capped at 27gms, and a conference slate of 20 ACC opponents who will be largely high-level competition, there needs to be some margin for cupcakes and polishing up a young team.

    In a typical year with 30+ games, there's room on the schedule for another challenging pre-season event and/or 1-2 more headline opponents on neutral court sites, while also keeping the mid- and low-major walkovers. This year, it was one or the other, and it's not reasonable to ask the team to only schedule conference opponents and top-25 or even top-75 KenPom projected teams.

    Again, it's disappointing, but I'll still watch.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by English View Post
    I will admit to a degree of disappointment at this non-conference schedule, as I mentioned here earlier when we backed out of the Battle for South Dakota (or whatever), but I suppose I understand the logic. With a schedule capped at 27gms, and a conference slate of 20 ACC opponents who will be largely high-level competition, there needs to be some margin for cupcakes and polishing up a young team.

    In a typical year with 30+ games, there's room on the schedule for another challenging pre-season event and/or 1-2 more headline opponents on neutral court sites, while also keeping the mid- and low-major walkovers. This year, it was one or the other, and it's not reasonable to ask the team to only schedule conference opponents and top-25 or even top-75 KenPom projected teams.

    Again, it's disappointing, but I'll still watch.
    I will certainly still watch too, but I'd say that Duke's choosing 100% cupcakes beyond the Champions Classic and ACC/Big 10 is very disappointing. I get the point about needing to maybe pull back on the non-con challenges this year due to our (relatively) young team but I think there is some fair criticism here that we absolutely could and should not have chosen 5 cupcakes and 0 Top-25/75 level games to round out the schedule. I don't buy that the 20 game ACC schedule excuses that call. Other high-ranked teams with similarly-challenging major conference schedules are being more aggressive on non-con scheduling. Consider:

    Baylor: Top 25 Ariz St. and likely Top 5 Villanova (MTE), Top 50 Seton Hall, Top 10 Illinois (Jimmy V), Top 5 Gonzaga, Top 75 Auburn (SEC/Big 12) + 18 Big 12 + probably 2 cupcakes.

    Villanova: BC and likely Top 5 Baylor (MTE), Top 25 Texas (Big East/Big 12), Top 10 Virginia, St. Joe’s, @ La Salle, Temple, + 20 Big East.

    Kentucky: Top 50 Richmond; cupcakes Detroit and Morehead St. (MTE), Top 10 Kansas (Champions Classic), Top 75 Ga. Tech, Notre Dame, Top 25 UCLA (CBS Classic), Top 50 Louisville, Top 25 Texas (SEC/Big 12) + 18 SEC.

    Baylor seems to have gone a little crazy, particularly given how stacked the Big 12 is going to be. But, I don't see why Duke's non-con doesn't look more like Villanova's or Kentucky's.

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