Degenerate Gamblers for the US Open

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

As a TV spectator, the final twosome, comprising the likely winner, consists of two people whose golf swing I hate to watch. This is "close my eyes" golf viewing.

And, if this is the future of golf, they should modify courses and change rules about equipment to keep it from happening. Starting right now!

I find Bryson's swing simply fascinating. I know he's a bit complicated as a person, and maybe I'm a simple man, but watching him launch a golf ball almost four football fields is just jaw dropping.

To me.

[mkirsh]

I have 1, 3, T4, 17, 50, 50

As a TV spectator, the final twosome, comprising the likely winner, consists of two people whose golf swing I hate to watch. This is "close my eyes" golf viewing.

And, if this is the future of golf, they should modify courses and change rules about equipment to keep it from happening. Starting right now!

They really need to do something about reining in distance. My home course has held a few majors and is undergoing a renovation that will make it play 7900 yards from the tournament tees. That is bonkers.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the final winning score is par or over par.

The only reason I didn't put Wolff on my team is because he could've won the PGA if he hadn't missed several fairly easy putts on the back nine on Sunday. It will be interesting to see if he can figure out a way to make that not happen tomorrow.

I’m rooting for Wolff, but worry about a young guy sleeping on the lead. Worried it could be like DJ at Pebble but hope he pulls it off.

[jv001]

Well Reed and JT really killed my chances, unless one of them get's hot today and goes very low. On this course, it's highly unlikely. Almost like Duke Football going 6-5 or better.

GoDuke!

[Bob Green]

Team Green

7 McIlroy
T17 Thomas
T22 DJ

I need three very strong Sunday performances.

[jv001]

Well, I do have Matthew Wolff and that does keep me in the running. It's not over till the fat lady sings.

[Tripping William]

That US Open was all B.A.D. And I might could end up DFL with T8, T13, T20. Ugh.

Let’s hustle-up and get to the Masters.

[rsvman]

At least I had the winner on my team....I had a hunch to pick Wolff, but went with thought over hunch and it cost me a lot.

[JasonEvans]

10 - DJ
07 - Collin
05 - Bryson
02 - Wolfe
02 - Phil
02 - Rickie
02 - B.Todd

Score -4 (I almost always go with -14 but the US Open shouldn't see that).

Elvis had #1 and #2. I’m betting he is the winner. I had #1 and a couple other in the top 8 but I suspect he bested me.

[elvis14]

After day 3:

DJ +5 T21
Bryson -3 2nd
Matt -5 1st
Rickie +8 T34
Todd +5 T21

Collin and Phil - cut

My tie breaker of -4 isn't looking too bad right now.

After day 4:

DJ +5 T6
Bryson -6 Major Champion
Matt E 2nd
Rickie +17 T49
Todd +10 T23

Collin and Phil Cut, Rickie perhaps wishing he was...

What a crazy day for me. I had an 8am tee time. Played well but missed 5 makable birdie putts (and made just 1). Note, I'm not a good golfer and I don't usually have that many birdie putts so it was cool. Got home mowed the lawn finished about 5 minutes before I had to leave for my daughters soccer game (which I was coaching). Grabbed dinner on the way home, sat down to watch the last round only to discover that my DVR didn't record it (not sure what happened there).

[rsvman]

After day 4:

DJ +5 T6
Bryson -6 Major Champion
Matt E 2nd
Rickie +17 T49
Todd +10 T23

Collin and Phil Cut, Rickie perhaps wishing he was...

What a crazy day for me. I had an 8am tee time. Played well but missed 5 makable birdie putts (and made just 1). Note, I'm not a good golfer and I don't usually have that many birdie putts so it was cool. Got home mowed the lawn finished about 5 minutes before I had to leave for my daughters soccer game (which I was coaching). Grabbed dinner on the way home, sat down to watch the last round only to discover that my DVR didn't record it (not sure what happened there).

Congrats on the good round of golf. Seemsa played better than the 'football team' did....

[JasonEvans]

I think my team comes in third place, but I could be wrong...

Team Evans
DeChambeau 1 - $2,250,000
Schauffele 5 - $502,993
Thomas T8 - $302,236
Fleetwood cut - $0
Morikawa cut - $0

Total - $3,055,229

-Jason "don't we total up how we did in all four Majors as some kind of secondary contest?" Evans

[JasonEvans]

-Jason "don't we total up how we did in all four Majors as some kind of secondary contest?" Evans

As a reminder, here is how we did in the PGA--

Congrats to CDu!

Cdu	$3,498,444
Bob Green	$3,077,538
elvis14	$2,841,258
JasonEvans	$2,465,509
Rogue	$1,519,850
Tbyers11	$1,318,417
Mr. Synellinden	$1,247,516
duketaylor	$1,115,408
Turk	$1,115,408
accfanfrom1970	$976,231
killerleft	$972,186
cato	$954,794
rasputin	$800,151
mkirsh	$756,058
Rich	$751,038
Tripping William	$338,500
sagegrouse	$249,838

-Jason "Elvis14 is gonna be in first place coming into the Masters... there is no British Open, so only 3 Majors this year" Evans

[CDu]

After day 4:

DJ +5 T6
Bryson -6 Major Champion
Matt E 2nd
Rickie +17 T49
Todd +10 T23

Collin and Phil Cut, Rickie perhaps wishing he was...

What a crazy day for me. I had an 8am tee time. Played well but missed 5 makable birdie putts (and made just 1). Note, I'm not a good golfer and I don't usually have that many birdie putts so it was cool. Got home mowed the lawn finished about 5 minutes before I had to leave for my daughters soccer game (which I was coaching). Grabbed dinner on the way home, sat down to watch the last round only to discover that my DVR didn't record it (not sure what happened there).

I will wait for mkirsh's expert tabulations, but I suspect this is the winner. Getting #1 and #2 is no small feat!

Team CDu lurked, and for a while looked threatening. But DeChambeau's monster day coupled with Wolff and Schauffele fading ultimately did me in:
Wolff (2)
Schauffele (5)
Thomas (T8)
Finau (T8)
Hovland (T13)

[CDu]

As a reminder, here is how we did in the PGA--



-Jason "Elvis14 is gonna be in first place coming into the Masters... there is no British Open, so only 3 Majors this year" Evans

By my VERY rough calcs, elvis14 will be around $7MM total going into the Masters, with me in a somewhat distant second at a little over $6MM. Gonna be tough to catch elvis for the "total majors" payout.

[JasonEvans]

By my VERY rough calcs, elvis14 will be around $7MM total going into the Masters, with me in a somewhat distant second at a little over $6MM. Gonna be tough to catch elvis for the "total majors" payout.

I'll be about $500k behind you.

[rsvman]

Not sure whether you should combine majors the way you are talking about doing it, since the PGA season that included the most recent PGA tournament is actually completed. There was no US Open in that particular season.

The new season started, and the plan is for 6 majors this season, including two Masters tournaments and two US Opens.


Obviously, y'all can set it up however you want to, and I guess you could do last season's PGA, this season's first US Open, and this season's first Masters as "the majors" for your contest (without last season's Open Championship, which wasn't played); or, you could run it the way the PGA runs it, and have a super-mega 6 majors contest.

Since I didn't set it up and I don't run it, I'll leave it up to whomever is "in charge." Just wanted to point out what the PGA is doing.

[mkirsh]

Sorry to be late with the results - I had to DVR the final round and got too tired to tabulate last night.

No surprise, the winner is elvis14 with the top 2 - super impressive. Congrats elvis14! I was pulling for Wolff, but even if he had won elvis14 would still hoist the trophy.

elvis14	$4,156,149
mkirsh	$3,108,035
JasonEvans	$3,055,229
rsvman	$2,783,440
CDu	$2,668,222
rasputin	$2,413,506
jv001	$2,351,057
91devil	$2,135,532
mr. synellinden	$1,530,271
CrazyNotCrazie	$1,238,517
Rich	$1,209,262
killerleft	$1,166,754
accfanfrom1970	$1,092,854
Rogue	$1,054,756
Nugget	$1,048,098
Bob Green	$1,028,512
tbyers11	$944,171
sagegrouse	$815,229
Tripping William	$614,790
sbroc012	$482,583

For the major contest rsvman is right that the PGA considers this the first major of the 2021 season, but call me a traditionalist as I believe that since this US Open was played in 2020 we should count it as 2020 and have a 3 major season. Happy to be over-ruled if people want to start over, but if not we have a very tight race after the first 2 majors of the calendar year:

Name	PGA	US Open	Total 2020
elvis14	$2,841,258	$4,156,149	$6,997,407
CDu	$3,498,444	$2,668,222	$6,166,666
JasonEvans	$2,465,509	$3,055,229	$5,520,738
Bob Green	$3,077,538	$1,028,512	$4,106,050
mkirsh	$756,058	$3,108,035	$3,864,093
rasputin	$800,151	$2,413,506	$3,213,657
rsvman	$0	$2,783,440	$2,783,440
mr. synellinden	$1,247,516	$1,530,271	$2,777,787
Rogue	$1,519,850	$1,054,756	$2,574,606
jv001	$0	$2,351,057	$2,351,057
tbyers11	$1,318,417	$944,171	$2,262,588
killerleft	$972,186	$1,166,754	$2,138,940
91devil	$0	$2,135,532	$2,135,532
accfanfrom1970	$976,231	$1,092,854	$2,069,085
Rich	$751,038	$1,209,262	$1,960,300
CrazyNotCrazie	$0	$1,238,517	$1,238,517
duketaylor	$1,115,408	$0	$1,115,408
Turk	$1,115,408	$0	$1,115,408
sagegrouse	$249,838	$815,229	$1,065,067
Nugget	$0	$1,048,098	$1,048,098
cato	$954,794	$0	$954,794
Tripping William	$338,500	$614,790	$953,290
sbroc012	$0	$482,583	$482,583

See you all in November for the Masters

[CDu]

Sorry to be late with the results - I had to DVR the final round and got too tired to tabulate last night.

No surprise, the winner is elvis14 with the top 2 - super impressive. Congrats elvis14! I was pulling for Wolff, but even if he had won elvis14 would still hoist the trophy.

elvis14	$4,156,149
mkirsh	$3,108,035
JasonEvans	$3,055,229
rsvman	$2,783,440
CDu	$2,668,222
rasputin	$2,413,506
jv001	$2,351,057
91devil	$2,135,532
mr. synellinden	$1,530,271
CrazyNotCrazie	$1,238,517
Rich	$1,209,262
killerleft	$1,166,754
accfanfrom1970	$1,092,854
Rogue	$1,054,756
Nugget	$1,048,098
Bob Green	$1,028,512
tbyers11	$944,171
sagegrouse	$815,229
Tripping William	$614,790
sbroc012	$482,583

For the major contest rsvman is right that the PGA considers this the first major of the 2021 season, but call me a traditionalist as I believe that since this US Open was played in 2020 we should count it as 2020 and have a 3 major season. Happy to be over-ruled if people want to start over, but if not we have a very tight race after the first 2 majors of the calendar year:

Name	PGA	US Open	Total 2020
elvis14	$2,841,258	$4,156,149	$6,997,407
CDu	$3,498,444	$2,668,222	$6,166,666
JasonEvans	$2,465,509	$3,055,229	$5,520,738
Bob Green	$3,077,538	$1,028,512	$4,106,050
mkirsh	$756,058	$3,108,035	$3,864,093
rasputin	$800,151	$2,413,506	$3,213,657
rsvman	$0	$2,783,440	$2,783,440
mr. synellinden	$1,247,516	$1,530,271	$2,777,787
Rogue	$1,519,850	$1,054,756	$2,574,606
jv001	$0	$2,351,057	$2,351,057
tbyers11	$1,318,417	$944,171	$2,262,588
killerleft	$972,186	$1,166,754	$2,138,940
91devil	$0	$2,135,532	$2,135,532
accfanfrom1970	$976,231	$1,092,854	$2,069,085
Rich	$751,038	$1,209,262	$1,960,300
CrazyNotCrazie	$0	$1,238,517	$1,238,517
duketaylor	$1,115,408	$0	$1,115,408
Turk	$1,115,408	$0	$1,115,408
sagegrouse	$249,838	$815,229	$1,065,067
Nugget	$0	$1,048,098	$1,048,098
cato	$954,794	$0	$954,794
Tripping William	$338,500	$614,790	$953,290
sbroc012	$0	$482,583	$482,583

See you all in November for the Masters

First, thanks to mkirsh as always for the maths. You da real MVP!

Second, congrats to Elvis for a very impressive win!

Third, I vote for the traditional calendar-based major tally. As the winner of the only official major of the 2020 season, it would feel like a combination of hollowness and double-counting to call the PGA win also the 2020 majors champ. Plus it will make the Masters that much more interesting in November!

[Tripping William]

First, thanks to mkirsh as always for the maths. You da real MVP!

Second, congrats to Elvis for a very impressive win!

Third, I vote for the traditional calendar-based major tally. As the winner of the only official major of the 2020 season, it would feel like a combination of hollowness and double-counting to call the PGA win also the 2020 majors champ. Plus it will make the Masters that much more interesting in November!

Agree with CDu on #3. Actually, agree with CDu on #'s 1 and 2 as well.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Sorry to be late with the results - I had to DVR the final round and got too tired to tabulate last night.

No surprise, the winner is elvis14 with the top 2 - super impressive. Congrats elvis14! I was pulling for Wolff, but even if he had won elvis14 would still hoist the trophy.

elvis14	$4,156,149
mkirsh	$3,108,035
JasonEvans	$3,055,229
rsvman	$2,783,440
CDu	$2,668,222
rasputin	$2,413,506
jv001	$2,351,057
91devil	$2,135,532
mr. synellinden	$1,530,271
CrazyNotCrazie	$1,238,517
Rich	$1,209,262
killerleft	$1,166,754
accfanfrom1970	$1,092,854
Rogue	$1,054,756
Nugget	$1,048,098
Bob Green	$1,028,512
tbyers11	$944,171
sagegrouse	$815,229
Tripping William	$614,790
sbroc012	$482,583

For the major contest rsvman is right that the PGA considers this the first major of the 2021 season, but call me a traditionalist as I believe that since this US Open was played in 2020 we should count it as 2020 and have a 3 major season. Happy to be over-ruled if people want to start over, but if not we have a very tight race after the first 2 majors of the calendar year:

Name	PGA	US Open	Total 2020
elvis14	$2,841,258	$4,156,149	$6,997,407
CDu	$3,498,444	$2,668,222	$6,166,666
JasonEvans	$2,465,509	$3,055,229	$5,520,738
Bob Green	$3,077,538	$1,028,512	$4,106,050
mkirsh	$756,058	$3,108,035	$3,864,093
rasputin	$800,151	$2,413,506	$3,213,657
rsvman	$0	$2,783,440	$2,783,440
mr. synellinden	$1,247,516	$1,530,271	$2,777,787
Rogue	$1,519,850	$1,054,756	$2,574,606
jv001	$0	$2,351,057	$2,351,057
tbyers11	$1,318,417	$944,171	$2,262,588
killerleft	$972,186	$1,166,754	$2,138,940
91devil	$0	$2,135,532	$2,135,532
accfanfrom1970	$976,231	$1,092,854	$2,069,085
Rich	$751,038	$1,209,262	$1,960,300
CrazyNotCrazie	$0	$1,238,517	$1,238,517
duketaylor	$1,115,408	$0	$1,115,408
Turk	$1,115,408	$0	$1,115,408
sagegrouse	$249,838	$815,229	$1,065,067
Nugget	$0	$1,048,098	$1,048,098
cato	$954,794	$0	$954,794
Tripping William	$338,500	$614,790	$953,290
sbroc012	$0	$482,583	$482,583

See you all in November for the Masters

Congrats to elvis14! And thanks to mkirsh for organizing - I enjoyed my first time and look forward to joining again for the Masters.