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  1. #61
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    Feb 2007
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    Chesapeake, VA.
    Quote Originally Posted by amusedcupcake View Post
    I wouldn't trade a used washing machine for Wentz.
    Stafford is a lot more talented than Wentz. Maybe I don't understand what your point is. Stafford has been held down for years by crappy surrounding players, crappy management, and crappy coaching.

  2. #62
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    Feb 2007
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    Forest Hills, NY

    Sam Darnold to Panthers

    I guess I'll be seeing a new QB (Wilson, probably)

    2021 6th round; 2022 2nd and 4th

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by duke74 View Post
    I guess I'll be seeing a new QB (Wilson, probably)

    2021 6th round; 2022 2nd and 4th
    No sir, you can't have Wilson. We have unfinished business.

  4. #64
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    Feb 2008
    Location
    New Bern, NC unless it's a home football game then I'm grilling on Devil's Alley
    Here's what we're getting.

    In three seasons, Darnold went 13-25 as a starter, with 45 touchdown passes and 39 interceptions. He completed 59.8% of his passes and never finished above 26th in passer rating.

    He finished as the NFL's lowest-rated passer in 2020 (72.7), 36th out of 36 qualifying quarterbacks. His career passer rating is 78.6, which ranks 39th out of 39 since 2018.
    Gee-whiz, Wally, that just has me all kinds of giddy.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Here's what we're getting.



    Gee-whiz, Wally, that just has me all kinds of giddy.
    Still a better outcome than having traded for Deshawn Watson a month ago.

  6. #66
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    Feb 2007
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    Forest Hills, NY
    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Here's what we're getting.



    Gee-whiz, Wally, that just has me all kinds of giddy.
    We never surrounded him with any weapons or OL. A number of coaches, etc. I think he will show better with you.

  7. #67
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    Feb 2007
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    I moved. Now 12 miles from Heaven, 13 from Hell
    We’ll see if the Panthers rescued him before the Jets could totally destroy him. Or if three years was enough for them to do so.

  8. #68
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    Dec 2009
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    North of Durham
    Quote Originally Posted by duke74 View Post
    We never surrounded him with any weapons or OL. A number of coaches, etc. I think he will show better with you.
    Agreed. He was set up to fail with the Jets. The Panthers situation is quite a bit better than anything he had with the Jets.

    I hope for the sake of whoever the Jets take (Wilson?) that they learn from this experience and also sign a veteran QB so that the rookie isn't thrown into the deep end week 1 without adequate support.

  9. #69
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    Nov 2007
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    Durham, NC
    I'm pretty OK with bringing in Darnold. Gase has a history of guys performing poorly under him and then blossoming when they go elsewhere. Darnold isn't Brady or Mahomes, but he might be capable of landing in that sort of next tier of solid but not elite QBs.

  10. #70
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    Feb 2007
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    Forest Hills, NY
    Quote Originally Posted by Acymetric View Post
    I'm pretty OK with bringing in Darnold. Gase has a history of guys performing poorly under him and then blossoming when they go elsewhere. Darnold isn't Brady or Mahomes, but he might be capable of landing in that sort of next tier of solid but not elite QBs.
    I liked Sam. Wasn't given much support. Has his limitations, but could have improved. I was for trading down for multiple picks and staying with him, but that discussion is over. Douglas is staking his future here on Zach Wilson (as seems to be the consensus.)

  11. #71
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    Mar 2008
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    raleigh
    rumor is they're still gonna move up to get a QB in the draft
    "Either they're going down, or we are! Kirk out!"

  12. #72
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    Nov 2007
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    Durham, NC
    Quote Originally Posted by moonpie23 View Post
    rumor is they're still gonna move up to get a QB in the draft
    Whyyyyyy???

  13. #73
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    Feb 2015
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    In your head.
    Quote Originally Posted by Acymetric View Post
    Whyyyyyy???
    Because Panthers.

  14. #74
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    Nov 2007
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    Durham, NC
    Ok, I've thought about it, and after reading some of the comments from the team my suspicion is that the noise about possibly still taking a QB is an attempt to make a team behind them that wants a QB feel like they have to trade up.

  15. #75
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    Mar 2008
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    raleigh
    Quote Originally Posted by Acymetric View Post
    Ok, I've thought about it, and after reading some of the comments from the team my suspicion is that the noise about possibly still taking a QB is an attempt to make a team behind them that wants a QB feel like they have to trade up.
    yeah, just a rumor mill....who know's all the games they play with regard to the draft...
    "Either they're going down, or we are! Kirk out!"

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