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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    yes, as a former journalist and editor, this happens all the time...in fact our local paper was known for idiotic headlines which explicitly contradicted the articles for which they were written, forcing me to send them seventy five cents in the mail for the purpose of having the headline writer actually read the articles.
    Do you mean to suggest that the following article might not actually describe the ordeal of a boy trapped in a refrigerator who ate his own foot?


    Refrigerator Foot.jpg



    Sorry for taking this thread (further) off topic, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to reference one of my favorite gags from Airplane!

    Zion may have some legal issues at the moment, but at least he'll never have to worry about refrigerator-induced self-cannibalism -- there ain't no refrigerator on the planet that could contain Zion!

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by House P View Post
    Do you mean to suggest that the following article might not actually describe the ordeal of a boy trapped in a refrigerator who ate his own foot?


    Refrigerator Foot.jpg



    Sorry for taking this thread (further) off topic, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to reference one of my favorite gags from Airplane!

    Zion may have some legal issues at the moment, but at least he'll never have to worry about refrigerator-induced self-cannibalism -- there ain't no refrigerator on the planet that could contain Zion!
    If it's in print, it pretty much has to be true, right? I hope there was some ketchup or something in there as well...

  3. #143
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    Can one of our legal experts weigh in on this decision by a Florida judge to require Zion to respond to the interrogatories?

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29255403/judge-says-zion-williamson-answer-questions-oath-improper-benefits-duke
    “Coach said no 3s.” - Zion on The Block

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    If it's in print, it pretty much has to be true, right? I hope there was some ketchup or something in there as well...
    There was a jar of jelly and bread. Made himself a toe jam sandwich.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Rosenrosen View Post
    Can one of our legal experts weigh in on this decision by a Florida judge to require Zion to respond to the interrogatories?

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29255403/judge-says-zion-williamson-answer-questions-oath-improper-benefits-duke
    I don't know the details of that case that well, but the scope of civil discovery is generally pretty broad, and discovery responses will be compelled if there is any arguable relevance to the claims. Moreover, discovery rulings are generally not appealable, so it is doubtful this decision will be reconsidered.

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaedrus View Post
    I don't know the details of that case that well, but the scope of civil discovery is generally pretty broad, and discovery responses will be compelled if there is any arguable relevance to the claims. Moreover, discovery rulings are generally not appealable, so it is doubtful this decision will be reconsidered.
    From everything I was reading when the news broke some weeks back, this decision by the judge was not expected. Maybe this means he'll be more likely to settle? I'd assume no testimony will ever be collected that implicates Zion or Duke but who knows.

  7. #147
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    The anti-Zion team has an interesting argument. The NC regulations which were broken in signing Zion pertain to amateur athletes. Since Zion (allegedly) accepted benefits, he was not an amateur athlete and thus not protected by the NC regulations. The contract signed by Zion would then be binding. It seems to me a non-frivolous argument that deserves discovery.

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    The anti-Zion team has an interesting argument. The NC regulations which were broken in signing Zion pertain to amateur athletes. Since Zion (allegedly) accepted benefits, he was not an amateur athlete and thus not protected by the NC regulations. The contract signed by Zion would then be binding. It seems to me a non-frivolous argument that deserves discovery.
    Isn’t this an issue that should be decided by the North Carolina court?

  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    The anti-Zion team has an interesting argument. The NC regulations which were broken in signing Zion pertain to amateur athletes. Since Zion (allegedly) accepted benefits, he was not an amateur athlete and thus not protected by the NC regulations. The contract signed by Zion would then be binding. It seems to me a non-frivolous argument that deserves discovery.
    Are they alledging/accusing or are they asking/fishing?

  10. #150
    So they asked him to admit to various things (accepting benefits/pay/etc.) and the Judge said he has to respond - is that basically what is going on at this point? Can his response be "I admit no such thing!"*?


    *Because, by God, you will have to prove any of the allegations you are making and they didn't happen anyway.

  11. #151
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    I apologize for not having time to go through the whole thread, but am I correct that he signed with a group and then decided not long after to go with another agency?

  12. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by camion View Post
    Are they alledging/accusing or are they asking/fishing?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by DukieInKansas View Post
    So they asked him to admit to various things (accepting benefits/pay/etc.) and the Judge said he has to respond - is that basically what is going on at this point? Can his response be "I admit no such thing!"*?


    *Because, by God, you will have to prove any of the allegations you are making and they didn't happen anyway.
    Yes. You can deny requests for admissions if they are not true. Typically, an RFA will have the request followed by two choices on the next line: Admit:__ or Deny:__, and then you put an X on the appropriate line. In certain situations, you may be required to provide an explanation with your denial.

    Quote Originally Posted by wgl1228 View Post
    I apologize for not having time to go through the whole thread, but am I correct that he signed with a group and then decided not long after to go with another agency?
    tl;dr version: Zion signed a marketing contract with Ford's agency shortly after declaring for the draft. He later canceled (or tried to) that contract and signed a deal with mega-agency CAA. Ford says Zion owes her $100M for breaching the contract. Zion says the contract was illegal and both void as a matter of law and voidable at his option. There is a law in NC and FL (most states, actually) that has specific requirements for agency/marketing contracts signed by student athletes, but the law only applies if the athlete was eligible for future NCAA competition at the time of signing. Since Ford and the contract did violate the statute, she needs to establish that Zion was not eligible for future NCAA competition when he signed the contract, which is why she is sending discovery requests about recruiting violations.

  13. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaedrus View Post
    I don't know the details of that case that well, but the scope of civil discovery is generally pretty broad, and discovery responses will be compelled if there is any arguable relevance to the claims. Moreover, discovery rulings are generally not appealable, so it is doubtful this decision will be reconsidered.
    According to this, he is appealing and is expected (at least by this guy) to win the appeal:Annotation 2020-06-03 131344.jpg

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    According to this, he is appealing and is expected (at least by this guy) to win the appeal:Annotation 2020-06-03 131344.jpg
    I only read the tweet, so perhaps the attorney says elsewhere that he expects Zion's team to win the appeal, but the tweet only says that he expects the court to put the discovery requests on hold pending action by the appeals court.
    Carolina delenda est

  15. #155
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    Exclamation

    The folks over on Inside Carolina know for a fact that Zion (and many others) were paid by Duke in general and Coach K specifically. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that a university with an international reputation and also the GOAT would risk all of that to bribe a teenager to play basketball. I wonder if the Board of Trustees and the President approved this? If so, shame, shame, shame.

  16. #156
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    My reponse was about the inability to appeal but here is another tweet by the same guy saying he things the appeal will fall in Zion's favor.

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  17. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    My reponse was about the inability to appeal but here is another tweet by the same guy saying he things the appeal will fall in Zion's favor.

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    The Sergei Federov decision? If this has ANYTHING to do with Anna Kournikova, I'm interested! From a strictly legal point of view, of course.

  18. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    The Sergei Federov decision? If this has ANYTHING to do with Anna Kournikova, I'm interested! From a strictly legal point of view, of course.
    It involved a Ponzi scheme that Sergei fell victim to.
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...edorov-others/

    How any of that relates to Zion's case, I have no idea, though I imagine the defendant in that case may have sought to depose Sergei about some sports-related matters and the appeals court ruled in Sergei's favor.
    I don't know what you are doing right now, but if you aren't listening to the DBR Podcast, you're doing it wrong.

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    My reponse was about the inability to appeal but here is another tweet by the same guy saying he things the appeal will fall in Zion's favor.

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    Excellent. I hope the guy knows what he’s talking about!

  20. #160
    I have no concern should Zion have to testify - as I fully anticipate that he will confirm no improper benefits.

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