I think the key question for the NCAA will be whether they allow sports among schools that do have students on campus. Just because the Cal State and perhaps UC schools are closed, does that mean the entire NCAA shuts down?
-Jason "Prepare for Montana, Idaho, and North Dakota to win 8 or 10 NCAA titles each this year!" Evans
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When can football practice start -- early August? So I'm guessing that decisions have to be made and announced in the next few months as to how all of this will be handled.
I just can't see it happening. It only takes one outbreak, on one team, with one fatality to bring the whole thing down. There are coaches, trainers, and staff who fall into high risk groups. Certainly there is some percentage of college athletes with a comorbidity trait such as diabetes or asthma.
The liability potential alone is staggering. The kids are literally risking their lives, and not getting paid to take that risk?
I hope I am wrong -- but I just don't see college football happening this fall despite whatever plans have been announced.
In fairness, I don't know of any schools that have announced an actual definitive intent to open as of a certain date (other than Liberty). Most schools, including Duke, have expressed an "intent to reopen" with further announcements to follow. I do agree that if the UC system says it won't reopen, the entire Pac 10 (or 12, or whatever) will also close as a unit. There's a lot of money at stake, though, so I don't necessarily expect that to cascade, depending on what the facts tell us as we get closer. One nice thing about universities, in general, though: We can still count on them to respect the facts.
I cringe when I think of the concourse in Wallace Wade at half time under the press box. And that's without a pandemic. You literally cannot walk through without being inches from tens if not hundreds of people. It's a sardine can.
Before, I had guessed that the season would start, but not finish. Now I'm pretty much resigned to it not being played at all.
Same goes with basketball and all other Fall sports. Toast.
(If either are played, there will not be fans to watch.)
Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."
Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."
I think your analysis is spot on! My guess is that most, if not all, colleges and universities, will NOT have classes on campus this Fall and that means no Fall sports. Unfortunately, there is no evidence that the virus is just going to disappear and the schools will not take the chance of a wide-spread, on-campus infection of students, faculty, staff and others. The liability and outrage would be huge.
I think the SEC would play even if the head official were the Grim Reaper and the field was surrounded by pythons. Having said that, I pretty much agree with OPK...no way do I see, for most conferences, fans in stadiums, BUT I could see the possibility of fanless football if (and only if) the university has robust testing in place.
I still suspect the SEC will find a way to play, though perhaps not until October.
From the Chronicle of Higher Education
https://www.chronicle.com/article/He...vGurttigijdUm4
updated regularly -- currently 69% of colleges responding with plans to open for in-person attendance in fall semester
I could see the PAC 12, Big Whatever and ACC hesitant to play, while the SEC and the so-called Big 12 go full bore.
For what it is worth, Harvard Medical School (and dental school) have already announced that they will not be holding on-campus classes this Fall.
As I mentioned above, I'd be amazed if any colleges or universities hold classes on campus this Fall and inter-collegiate Fall sports will NOT take place.
Despite CSU's announcement that Fall semester will be going virtual, SDSU is planning for a fall sports season. They are looking to bring student-athletes back to campus in July. I wonder if we end up with teams reporting and potentially football season starting up, with sports seasons later scuttled due to new outbreaks?
Here is info on SDSU's plans: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ate-san-marcos
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Current information is 64% of colleges are planning to be open with in-person student attendance in the fall.
Are you saying that virtually all of them will back down? And there will be no inter-collegiate sports this Fall or in-person classes?
Please explain a little further.
my understanding, as of tonight, is that duke is most likely to have some sort of hybrid thing. some students on campus, limited of gathering size, some online classes, some in person spaced out classes.
Details are a bit vague at my level of in the know, but that's the current likely course of action, even if details aren't yet finalized.
But either way, the plan is still to have students on campus in the fall as of now.
April 1
A lot of schools now wondering how long they can compete in the football arms race...insane expansion of facilities, salaries...and debt.
Wire service article today noted that, for example, in the last decade both Kentucky and Louisville have more than doubled their football spending, and as a result, KY's athletic debt debt load has increased from $22 million to $100 million, and at Louisville the load has increased by $5 million to $96 million. Good luck with that, especially with the coming (greatly) reduced revenue.
This stuff is not sustainable...gobs of offensive coordinators being paid more than a million bucks, lavish facilities built everywhere...it was also noted that at Penn State, there are now 34 assistant athletic directors...the money train up until now has fueled this ginormous increase in spending...while I don't see Alabama likely to pull back, I have to think we're going to see some major changes coming, a lot of schools just won't be able to keep pace with the insanity.
^ I should also point out that, predictably, several league commissioners have petitioned the NCAA to change the mandate that if you offer football, you need to offer X number of non revenue sports...seems that wrestling coaches in particular are on guard, I'd imagine because Title IX protects a lot of womens sports.