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  1. #14061
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    Quote Originally Posted by LasVegas View Post
    Yeah, at some point the CDC has to accept a level of deaths per year here. I honestly thought we would be there at this point but I guess we arenít. Vaccine appointments are readily available as far as I know. Iím honestly not sure what the CDC is waiting for. Maybe the middle of summer we wonít have to wear masks anymore?
    Here's an update from earlier today on vaccination totals, per day vaccinations, cases, etc. Vaccinations per day are declining but still over 2 million. I believe all states are now open to everyone 16+ so once they get through the shrinking backlog of newly eligible people who want to get it, the line should largely flatten (at least until they hopefully make younger groups eligible) - for most of these people to be two weeks post-second shot, I think the July 4 estimate likely makes sense, maybe a little earlier.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/03/covi...ly-update.html

    Even then, I wouldn't be throwing out my masks anytime soon. Definitely phasing them out for more and more situations.

  2. #14062
    Hey all,

    So there are some very informed and educated people here. I was hoping to take advantage of you all.

    So the CDC has largely dropped their recommendation of using clear barriers between students in school. From the CDC ďWe donít have a lot of evidence of their effectivenessĒ in preventing transmission, Gretta Massetti (leads the CDCís community interventions task force) said.

    I am trying to find such evidence... like, a study or something that gives that information... because we are contemplating getting rid of the barriers.

    Any of the educated, in-the-loop folks here have any insight about this?

    Thanks!

  3. #14063

    OSHA Cites Employer following COVID-19 Death of Employee

    Interestingly the employer appears to have been cited for failing to follow its own rules. Company luncheon in October followed by reports of COVID from employees who attended. Company failed to follow its own rules to identify, contact trace, isolate and quarantine after receiving reports of COVID from folks who were at the luncheon. Twenty-two employees got sick and one died.

    Would the company have received punishment if it had followed its rules but had the same outcomes? If it had not had any rules?

    The vaccines are now broadly available. When will they come off of EUA status so that employers will not have to fight the "experimental status" argument?

    https://www.mbtmag.com/home/video/21...tm_term=716230

  4. #14064
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    I'd tell ya, but then I'd have to kill ya
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Ash View Post
    Hey all,

    So there are some very informed and educated people here. I was hoping to take advantage of you all.

    So the CDC has largely dropped their recommendation of using clear barriers between students in school. From the CDC ďWe donít have a lot of evidence of their effectivenessĒ in preventing transmission, Gretta Massetti (leads the CDCís community interventions task force) said.

    I am trying to find such evidence... like, a study or something that gives that information... because we are contemplating getting rid of the barriers.

    Any of the educated, in-the-loop folks here have any insight about this?

    Thanks!
    Duke claims I'm educated, but I'm not in-the-loop.

    However, I think the main benefit of the barriers at this point is that they are a constant reminder of safe practices and distancing. So a subliminal impact on impressionable young minds? We're not out of this yet (may never be) but pulling down the barriers perhaps sends the wrong message to your students. The school has paid for them, they're installed, so why not leave them up for a while. I imagine they're also a deterrent to typical classroom shenanigans.

  5. #14065
    Quote Originally Posted by dudog84 View Post
    Duke claims I'm educated, but I'm not in-the-loop.

    However, I think the main benefit of the barriers at this point is that they are a constant reminder of safe practices and distancing. So a subliminal impact on impressionable young minds? We're not out of this yet (may never be) but pulling down the barriers perhaps sends the wrong message to your students. The school has paid for them, they're installed, so why not leave them up for a while. I imagine they're also a deterrent to typical classroom shenanigans.
    The thing is, the amount they obstruct vision is INSANE. We have ones with solid sides, so the kids cannot see each other, and I often struggle to see THEM. Kids are constantly leaning and standing to try to see, Iím constantly having them turn desks, and I also struggle to see kids who are fooling around. Itís really brutal

    At this point, if they arenít providing a measurable health benefit, Iíd love to get rid of them. The kids are pretty careless when it comes to socially distancing anyway

  6. #14066
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Ash View Post
    The thing is, the amount they obstruct vision is INSANE. We have ones with solid sides, so the kids cannot see each other, and I often struggle to see THEM. Kids are constantly leaning and standing to try to see, Iím constantly having them turn desks, and I also struggle to see kids who are fooling around. Itís really brutal

    At this point, if they arenít providing a measurable health benefit, Iíd love to get rid of them. The kids are pretty careless when it comes to socially distancing anyway
    Sorry, I pictured 'plexiglass'. That's what I see in stores. And thanks for reminding me of teenage hormones, I vaguely remember them.

    Yeah, ignore my previous post. Ditch 'em.

  7. #14067
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    Feb 2007
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    Washington, D.C.

    Children now account for 22% of US Covid cases

    https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...r-224-of-covid

    The good news is that very few children die (0.01% of cases), but some children do get long Covid. I can't tell from the otherwise excellent article how many get long Covid, however.

  8. #14068
    Quote Originally Posted by MChambers View Post
    https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...r-224-of-covid

    The good news is that very few children die (0.01% of cases), but some children do get long Covid. I can't tell from the otherwise excellent article how many get long Covid, however.
    Very scary. Michigan sure seems to be in a bad way right now.

    I would love to know how much of this is driven by the older 12 crowd, since (a) that is were susceptibility to Covid really starts to go up, from what I can tell, and (b) those are the only kids that we have any hope of vaccinating soon.

  9. #14069
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Las Vegas, Nevada (Ohio born and raised)
    Quote Originally Posted by MChambers View Post
    https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...r-224-of-covid

    The good news is that very few children die (0.01% of cases), but some children do get long Covid. I can't tell from the otherwise excellent article how many get long Covid, however.
    My 14 year old niece just tested positive. Canít smell or taste but otherwise mostly fine. A little short of breath with exertion.

  10. #14070
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    Feb 2007
    Location
    Durham, NC
    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    Very scary. Michigan sure seems to be in a bad way right now.

    I would love to know how much of this is driven by the older 12 crowd, since (a) that is were susceptibility to Covid really starts to go up, from what I can tell, and (b) those are the only kids that we have any hope of vaccinating soon.
    My supervisor moved from Ann Arbor to NC late last summer. She is still in touch with former co-workers. They have pretty good mandates in place, but can't seem to figure out the crazy spread they are having.

  11. #14071
    Two government approved raves where allowed this weekend in Liverpool, England. Thousands of people, indoors, no masks, no social distancing all in the name of science. All attendees had to have have a negative COVID test. Letís see how this plays out.

  12. #14072
    Quote Originally Posted by Kdogg View Post
    Two government approved raves where allowed this weekend in Liverpool, England. Thousands of people, indoors, no masks, no social distancing all in the name of science. All attendees had to have have a negative COVID test. Letís see how this plays out.
    God I love science

  13. #14073
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    Chesapeake, VA.
    We have had about 18 kids with MIS-C admitted to our hospital, several have ended up in intensive care. This is the main thing we are seeing at the Children's Hospital.

  14. #14074
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    Washington, DC area
    Quote Originally Posted by rsvman View Post
    We have had about 18 kids with MIS-C admitted to our hospital, several have ended up in intensive care. This is the main thing we are seeing at the Children's Hospital.
    In what aged kids is it showing up most?

    -jk

  15. #14075
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    Feb 2007
    Location
    Orlando, FL
    Quote Originally Posted by rsvman View Post
    We have had about 18 kids with MIS-C admitted to our hospital, several have ended up in intensive care. This is the main thing we are seeing at the Children's Hospital.
    Is this over the entire pandemic (since March 2020)? Or a more recent time frame?
    Coach K on Kyle Singler - "What position does he play? ... He plays winner."

    "Duke is never the underdog" - Quinn Cook

  16. #14076
    Question for the board - We are having outdoor Sunday School and we don't have that many kids to begin with. Each class had 2 adult teachers. One class has 2 - 4 upper elementary kids and the other can have 5 - 9 lower elementary age kids. Should everyone remain masked? If unmasked, what kind of distance between people should be maintained?

  17. #14077
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    Feb 2007
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    Chesapeake, VA.
    MIS-C clarifications: Over the entire pandemic. Ages range from about 3 to 16 or 17, with a median of about 6-9 years of age. I don't have all the exact stats; pretty sure my colleague does. If you need specifics, I can probably get them.
    "We are not provided with wisdom, we must discover it for ourselves, after a journey through the wilderness which no one else can take for us, an effort which no one can spare us, for our wisdom is the point of view from which we come at last to regard the world." --M. Proust

  18. #14078
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    Feb 2007
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    Washington, DC area
    Quote Originally Posted by rsvman View Post
    MIS-C clarifications: Over the entire pandemic. Ages range from about 3 to 16 or 17, with a median of about 6-9 years of age. I don't have all the exact stats; pretty sure my colleague does. If you need specifics, I can probably get them.
    Thanks. I was curious if there were trends. Sounds likes it's hitting kids of all ages.

    -jk

  19. #14079
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    Feb 2007
    Location
    Steamboat Springs, CO

    Lows for New Cases and Deaths

    As of today, May 5, COVID-19 new cases are at a seven-day average of 47,900, the lowest average SINCE OCTOBER 9. Deaths are resuming their decline, with a seven-day average of 682, the lowest average number of deaths SINCE JULY 10.

    I like the trends -- we hope they continue.
    Sage Grouse

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