PlagueWatch 2020-23 - Coronavirus

[YmoBeThere]

Countries with Omicron variant	Countries with US Travel Bans
Australia	Botswana
Austria	Lesotho
Belgium	Malawi
Botswana	Mozambique
Canada(within the last hour)	Namibia
Czech Republic	South Africa
Denmark	Zimbabwe
Germany
Hong Kong
Israel
Italy
Netherlands
South Africa
Spain
United Kingdom

So, did if originate in Africa? Or Europe?

[-jk]

Countries with Omicron variant	Countries with US Travel Bans
Australia	Botswana
Austria	Lesotho
Belgium	Malawi
Botswana	Mozambique
Canada(within the last hour)	Namibia
Czech Republic	South Africa
Denmark	Zimbabwe
Germany
Hong Kong
Israel
Italy
Netherlands
South Africa
Spain
United Kingdom

So, did if originate in Africa? Or Europe?

I think you may be conflating mere detection with case counts.

-jk

[Furniture]

I think you may be conflating mere detection with case counts.

-jk

Countries with confirmed cases are shown here...

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2021/11/omicron-tracker/

[YmoBeThere]

I think you may be conflating mere detection with case counts.

-jk

At this point, I think it is too early to know. According to one article I saw, South Africa was on the forefront of efforts to identify new variants. It was also mentioned GB sequenced nearly 1 in 5 of positive tests. Part of the issue is you have to do the work at some point. The initial travel ban punishes a country or countries that are doing the work.

[Bluedog]

At this point, I think it is too early to know. According to one article I saw, South Africa was on the forefront of efforts to identify new variants. It was also mentioned GB sequenced nearly 1 in 5 of positive tests. Part of the issue is you have to do the work at some point. The initial travel ban punishes a country or countries that are doing the work.

Yeah, what percentage of US cases do you think we're sequencing? 1 in 1000? I honestly have no idea and have not heard of it done at all, but I assume it is somewhere.

[wavedukefan70s]

I’m sitting here waiting 15 minutes after just getting my Moderna booster. It’s been 3 months since I had a mild breakthrough infection and 5 months since my 2nd Pfizer shot. I have no idea why, but the Moderna injection was much more painful than either of the first 2 shots. Curious if anyone else had a similar experience.

My daughter had two Moderna then a pfizer.said Moderna shots were worse.

[YmoBeThere]

Yeah, what percentage of US cases do you think we're sequencing? 1 in 1000? I honestly have no idea and have not heard of it done at all, but I assume it is somewhere.

Dated data but in April of this year in this opinion piece, it notes US at 0.3% and UK at 10%.


To stem the pandemic, the U.S. needs a national Covid-19 genomic sequencing effort
By James Crawford, Jonathan Slotkin and Meg Wyatt April 6, 2021


https://www.statnews.com/2021/04/06/...encing-effort/

[freshmanjs]

Yeah, what percentage of US cases do you think we're sequencing? 1 in 1000? I honestly have no idea and have not heard of it done at all, but I assume it is somewhere.

According to Gottlieb, 100k per week.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/cov...he-nation/#app

[Bluedog]

According to Gottlieb, 100k per week.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/cov...he-nation/#app

Wow, that is much higher than I thought. Sounds like the U.S. has really upped in more recently. Thanks for sharing.

"[The U.S. is sequencing] about 20% of all the diagnosed cases." -Scott Gottlieb

[kexman]

Yeah, what percentage of US cases do you think we're sequencing? 1 in 1000? I honestly have no idea and have not heard of it done at all, but I assume it is somewhere.

The U.S. is 20th with 3.6% of cases sequenced. South Africa is 37th with 0.8% of cases sequenced. That data is cumulative so not actually what is happening this past month.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...riant-omicron/

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

According to Gottlieb, 100k per week.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/cov...he-nation/#app

Gottleib is alarmingly academic.

[bundabergdevil]

Gottleib is alarmingly academic.

Hey now…

[YmoBeThere]

An interesting early read of the available data: Among nations w/ multiple Omicron cases: the mutation that is being used to screen for the variant is most commonly found in the Netherlands, Germany, and Denmark. South Africa ranks last on this list. Note: the mutation is also found in Alpha variant, but the point stands.
https://twitter.com/DataDrivenMD/sta...58930620895232

[johnb]

Sheesh, maybe we should enormously ramp up our vaccine distribution to poor countries rather than penalizing them for transparency.

[CameronBlue]

Sheesh, maybe we should enormously ramp up our vaccine distribution to poor countries rather than penalizing them for transparency.

Yep now you’re on track with the program. Penalize the least mobile least industrialized least global trotting peoples on the planet. Leave it all to doctors without Borders.

[rsvman]

An interesting early read of the available data: Among nations w/ multiple Omicron cases: the mutation that is being used to screen for the variant is most commonly found in the Netherlands, Germany, and Denmark. South Africa ranks last on this list. Note: the mutation is also found in Alpha variant, but the point stands.
https://twitter.com/DataDrivenMD/sta...58930620895232

To be fair, though, Omicron is defined by a large series of mutations, about 50 in all, and not by any single mutation.
All that table shows is viruses with a certain individual mutation. Without more detail, it is impossible to say, but it is likely that most, if not all of them listed on that table were not actually Omicron variants.

[YmoBeThere]

To be fair, though, Omicron is defined by a large series of mutations, about 50 in all, and not by any single mutation.
All that table shows is viruses with a certain individual mutation. Without more detail, it is impossible to say, but it is likely that most, if not all of them listed on that table were not actually Omicron variants.

Yes, Dr. Caballero goes in to greater detail on Twitter on how those cases were classified as Alpha and others that were classified as not Alpha and the timing of those events. I guess the insinuation is that South Africa merely gave a name to something that was already out and about but had not been "classified".

[sagegrouse]

Sheesh, maybe we should enormously ramp up our vaccine distribution to poor countries rather than penalizing them for transparency.

YOu should eb the next head of World Health Organization, as that is precisely its opinion.

[YmoBeThere]

Yes, Dr. Caballero goes in to greater detail on Twitter on how those cases were classified as Alpha and others that were classified as not Alpha and the timing of those events. I guess the insinuation is that South Africa merely gave a name to something that was already out and about but had not been "classified".

Omicron COVID variant was in Europe before South African scientists detected and flagged it to the world

Updated on: November 30, 2021 / 7:38 AM / CBS/AP

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/omicron...nkId=142329193

"Dutch health authorities announced on Tuesday that they found the new Omicron variant of the coronavirus in cases dating back as long as 11 days, indicating that it was already spreading in western Europe before the first cases were identified in southern Africa. The RIVM health institute said it found Omicron in samples dating from November 19 and 23."

[howardlander]

YOu should eb the next head of World Health Organization, as that is precisely its opinion.

I have read in several places, so it may actually be true, that the issue in South Africa is not a lack of vaccine doses but a lack of trust in the local medical system by the people there. If it is true, that seems like a difficult problem for anyone but the South Africans to solve.

Howard