Duke Football -- Offseason Discussion

[devildeac]

Fully agreed.

FWIW, that brings our transfer total (including grad transfers) to 9.

Is anyone getting a bit more concerned about these young men entering the transfer portal?

[Acymetric]

Is anyone getting a bit more concerned about these young men entering the transfer portal?

I am, but I kind of already was. Brown (despite his injury troubles) was a major contributor though, definitely the most significant transfer so far. And we are officially thin at RB. Hope Marvin Hubbard III is healthy and Jaylen Coleman is ready to contribute. Or maybe we finally see a glimpse of Elijah Deveaux?

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Fully agreed.

FWIW, that brings our transfer total (including grad transfers) to 9.

can you post a list of those 9?

[budwom]

can't spin this news into something good.

[Acymetric]

can you post a list of those 9?

Sure. And I was wrong, we are at 8 transfers. I accidentally counted incoming transfer J'Marick Woods to get to 9.

FWIW, 247 has a pretty nice (free!) transfer portal tracker for all teams where you can keep up with who is going where.

https://247sports.com/college/duke/S...ransferPortal/


I'm going by whether 247 indicates them as having "immediate" eligibility to determine grad transfers so that part may or may not be correct.

Brittain Brown    (RB)   Appears to be a grad transfer
Scott Bracey      (WR)   Grad transfer
Aaron Young       (WR)   Grad transfer
Liam Smith        (OL)   Grad Transfer
Jacob Morganstern (LB)   RS Jr (not indicated as a grad transfer on 247 but he might be)
Isaiah Kemp       (CB)   Freshman
Javon Jackson     (S)    Grad transfer
AJ Reed           (K)    Grad transfer

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Sure. And I was wrong, we are at 8 transfers. I accidentally counted incoming transfer J'Marick Woods to get to 9.

FWIW, 247 has a pretty nice (free!) transfer portal tracker for all teams where you can keep up with who is going where.

https://247sports.com/college/duke/S...ransferPortal/


I'm going by whether 247 indicates them as having "immediate" eligibility to determine grad transfers so that part may or may not be correct.

Brittain Brown    (RB)   Appears to be a grad transfer
Scott Bracey      (WR)   Grad transfer
Aaron Young       (WR)   Grad transfer
Liam Smith        (OL)   Grad Transfer
Jacob Morganstern (LB)   RS Jr (not indicated as a grad transfer on 247 but he might be)
Isaiah Kemp       (CB)   Freshman
Javon Jackson     (S)    Grad transfer
AJ Reed           (K)    Grad transfer

Thanks. I was very very down on the program...felt like the Cutcliffe surge was slipping away. Then we beat Miami...felt a little better...then the recruiting class looked awful...but some late work rounded it into better shape. I was thinking okay, maybe Cut CAN turn this back around. Now, again, I feel it slipping away...

[Bob Green]

can't spin this news into something good.

I agree. This is bad news. Brittain Brown rushed for 701 yards (5.4 ypc) and 7 touchdowns as a redshirt freshman. He hurt his leg/knee against Army opening game of sophomore season followed by shoulder surgery early in junior season. When healthy, Brown is a fantastic running back. He has size and speed plus good hands catching the ball out of the backfield. I was really hoping he would have a healthy, productive senior season.

[DukeDTD]

Sure. And I was wrong, we are at 8 transfers. I accidentally counted incoming transfer J'Marick Woods to get to 9.

FWIW, 247 has a pretty nice (free!) transfer portal tracker for all teams where you can keep up with who is going where.

https://247sports.com/college/duke/S...ransferPortal/


I'm going by whether 247 indicates them as having "immediate" eligibility to determine grad transfers so that part may or may not be correct.

Brittain Brown    (RB)   Appears to be a grad transfer
Scott Bracey      (WR)   Grad transfer
Aaron Young       (WR)   Grad transfer
Liam Smith        (OL)   Grad Transfer
Jacob Morganstern (LB)   RS Jr (not indicated as a grad transfer on 247 but he might be)
Isaiah Kemp       (CB)   Freshman
Javon Jackson     (S)    Grad transfer
AJ Reed           (K)    Grad transfer

Neal and Williams are also early departures although neither is in the portal. So, 10 total kids leaving early (i.e. with eligibility), at least eight of whom want to still play football.

[DukeDTD]

Is anyone getting a bit more concerned about these young men entering the transfer portal?

Yes. The total early departures (guys with eligibility left) are now at 10. Especially when Cut indicated all along, and even as late as his presser on early signing day, that the coaching staff had been expecting a class of 12. We are now at 19 slots and counting which means the coaching staff was completely blindsided by all of the departures. The (successful) scramble before early signing day to actively and aggressively flip recruits validates that coaches were surprised. In a program that prides itself on being a close-knit family environment with the coaches actively involved with the players, surprises of this magnitude suggest a breakdown in communication and/or a relatively sudden souring on the program among several players.

[chrishoke]

Yes. The total early departures (guys with eligibility left) are now at 10. Especially when Cut indicated all along, and even as late as his presser on early signing day, that the coaching staff had been expecting a class of 12. We are now at 19 slots and counting which means the coaching staff was completely blindsided by all of the departures. The (successful) scramble before early signing day to actively and aggressively flip recruits validates that coaches were surprised. In a program that prides itself on being a close-knit family environment with the coaches actively involved with the players, surprises of this magnitude suggest a breakdown in communication and/or a relatively sudden souring on the program among several players.

I am not sure I agree with your assessment. It could also be a sign of the times in college football. There seems to be no down side in putting your name in the transfer pool. Mr. young did it last year but didn’t leave. He came back and was a starter. Who knows how many of these guys will do the same.. it certainly adds a great deal of uncertainty for coaches. I’d love to hear what smarter people than me think about all this.

[Acymetric]

I am not sure I agree with your assessment. It could also be a sign of the times in college football. There seems to be no down side in putting your name in the transfer pool. Mr. young did it last year but didn’t leave. He came back and was a starter. Who knows how many of these guys will do the same.. it certainly adds a great deal of uncertainty for coaches. I’d love to hear what smarter people than me think about all this.

After we added additional recruits there is only room for 1, maybe 2 of these guys to come back. These guys are, by and large, out the door (there is no longer room for them on the roster). The only one I have any hope for is Brown (since we filled all the scholarships vacated by the other guys after they put their names in) but I'm not optimistic.

[jv001]

After we added additional recruits there is only room for 1, maybe 2 of these guys to come back. These guys are, by and large, out the door (there is no longer room for them on the roster). The only one I have any hope for is Brown (since we filled all the scholarships vacated by the other guys after they put their names in) but I'm not optimistic.

Maybe the guys leaving that are on offense, see the same thing we do with our inept play calling.
GoDuke!

[CameronBornAndBred]

Maybe the guys leaving that are on offense, see the same thing we do with our inept play calling.
GoDuke!

I was thinking the same. Two WRs and a RB, that's quite a loss.
"Hey Coach, are you sticking with Mr. Roper?"
"Yep."
"Thanks, good luck with that, bye."

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I was thinking the same. Two WRs and a RB, that's quite a loss.
"Hey Coach, are you sticking with Mr. Roper?"
"Yep."
"Thanks, good luck with that, bye."

Exactly, multiple skill position players hoping to actually be able to use their skill...

[chrishoke]

Offensive line coach Jim Bridge has resigned.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...239099058.html

[sagegrouse]

Offensive line coach Jim Bridge has resigned.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...239099058.html

Hmmm... the plot thickens.

[Bob Green]

Offensive line coach Jim Bridge has resigned.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...239099058.html

I just saw this and came here to post the news but you beat me to it. Now Coach Cutcliffe must go secure a proven OL coach who can step in and make an immediate impact.

[PDDuke85]

John Latina to a white courtesy telephone, Mr John Latina, White Courtesy telephone

[Acymetric]

John Latina to a white courtesy telephone, Mr John Latina, White Courtesy telephone

I'm pretty sure if Latina wanted to be coaching he would be. Consider him retired, I think.

[PDDuke85]

I'm pretty sure if Latina wanted to be coaching he would be. Consider him retired, I think.

I think you’re correct but damn, wouldn’t it be nice.