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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    Miami is a 6 points favorite in early betting lines.
    Miami has problems, but Defense is not one of them. During Franks/Roof we used to bet on which quarter do we cross the 50. Vegas doesn’t have over/under for this, but might be looking at 3rd quarter.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by arnie View Post
    Miami has problems, but Defense is not one of them. During Franks/Roof we used to bet on which quarter do we cross the 50. Vegas doesn’t have over/under for this, but might be looking at 3rd quarter.
    Maybe we could let Miami move the ball into FG position, and let them get 3, then kick to Philyaw - Johnson....trade them 7 for 3...
    Don't waste your time on House of Cards S6!
    -We found out Frank was critical to making anyone else in the show interesting...not a surprise...

  3. #23
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    For those heading to the game that would like to come join us at our tailgate in closing out the season, we are escaping the turkey and trimmings with a pasta send off to 2019.

    Here's our menu (so far...and subject to edit).

    http://crazietalk.net/ourhouse/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5982
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

  4. #24
    Per espn fpi, #33 Miami is 9 points better than #67 Duke and Duke has a 32.8% chance of victory.

    In constituent part efficiencies (don't know how calculated), Duke's O is 111th, D is 38th, and kicking teams 5th.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football...cs/teamratings

    In the SRS, our Osrs is 90th and our Dsrs is 56th; our offensive yds per play is 118th and our D's is 49th.

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...9-ratings.html

  5. #25

    Duke/Miami history

    Miami (3-13)

    1976 A W 20-7
    1983 H L 17-56
    2005 A L 7-52
    2006 H L 15-20
    2007 A L 14-24
    2008 H L 31-49
    2009 A L 16-34
    2010 H L 13-28
    2011 A L 14-49
    2012 H L 45-52
    2013 H W 48-30
    2014 A L 10-22
    2015 H L 27-30*
    2016 A L 21-40
    2017 H L 6-31
    2018 A W 20-12

    Someone should write a pithy, factual summary of the 2015 debacle -- what exactly went wrong (and in what specific ways) and the fallout (ref suspensions, etc ...). Just to have as a handy reference. The greatest sports injustice I can recall.
    Last edited by Reilly; 11-26-2019 at 05:20 AM.

  6. #26
    Duke's seniors

    11 Tim Skapek K 5-8 180 Sr. Dallas, Texas / St. Mark's School of Texas
    16 Dylan Singleton S 5-11 180 Sr. Dacula, Ga. / Archer
    47 Ryan Wolitzer RB 5-9 180 Sr. Purchase, N.Y. / Rye Country Day
    49 Koby Quansah LB 6-1 230 Sr. Manchester, Conn. / Kingswood Oxford
    53 Scott Jones DE 6-3 230 Sr. Newport News, Va. / Hampton Roads Academy
    59 Tre Hornbuckle DE 6-4 255 Sr. Murray, Ky. / Murray
    60 Noah Waddell DT 6-3 225 Sr. Medina, Ohio / St. Edward
    62 Lee Rodio LS 5-10 205 Sr. Durham, N.C. / Northern
    65 Julian Santos OG 6-3 325 Sr. East Lake, Fla. / East Lake
    18 Quentin Harris QB 6-1 200 R-Sr. Wilton, Conn. / Taft School
    45 Austin Parker P 6-1 190 R-Sr. Mount Pleasant, N.C. / Mount Pleasant
    69 Zach Baker OG 6-4 315 R-Sr. Green Cove Springs, Fla. / Clay
    81 Aaron Young WR 6-4 210 R-Sr. Murrieta, Calif. / Murrieta Valley
    92 Edgar Cerenord DT 6-1 305 R-Sr. Miami, Fla. / American Heritage
    95 Trevon McSwain DT 6-6 285 R-Sr. Suwanee, Ga. / Lambert

    Duke's RS-JRs

    2 Javon Jackson S 5-11 190 R-Jr. Tyrone, Ga. / Sandy Creek
    4 Myles Hudzick S 5-10 170 R-Jr. Reston, Va. / Bishop O'Connell
    8 Brittain Brown RB 6-1 205 R-Jr. Canton, Ga. / Cherokee
    11 Scott Bracey WR 6-2 210 R-Jr. Richmond, Va. / Benedictine
    28 Mark Gilbert CB 6-1 175 R-Jr. Fayetteville, N.C. / Terry Sanford
    32 Brandon Hill LB 6-3 235 R-Jr. Orangeburg, S.C. / Heathwood Hall Episcopal
    35 Antone Williams S 5-11 180 R-Jr. Atlanta, Ga. / Woodward Academy
    36 Elijah Deveaux RB 6-0 215 R-Jr. Waxhaw, N.C. / Charlotte Christian
    40 Jacob Morgenstern LB 6-4 210 R-Jr. Lagrange, N.Y. / St. Luke's School [Conn.]
    41 Xander Gagnon LB 6-3 235 R-Jr. Charlotte, N.C. / Charlotte Catholic
    48 AJ Reed K 5-11 185 R-Jr. Prattville, Ala. / Prattville
    50 Jack Wohlabaugh C 6-4 305 R-Jr. Akron, Ohio / Walsh Jesuit
    58 Ben Wyatt LS 6-1 220 R-Jr. Davidson, N.C. / Cannon School
    66 Jaylen Miller OT 6-3 315 R-Jr. Jacksonville, Fla. / Providence
    75 Liam Smith C 6-4 270 R-Jr. Little Silver, N.J. / Red Bank Catholic
    77 Robert Kraeling OT 6-7 300 R-Jr. Bishop, Ga. / Prince Avenue Christian
    89 Mark Birmingham TE 6-4 250 R-Jr. Ashburn, Va. / Briar Woods

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
    Miami (3-13)

    1976 A W 20-7
    1983 H L 17-56
    2005 A L 7-52
    2006 H L 15-20
    2007 A L 14-24
    2008 H L 31-49
    2009 A L 16-34
    2010 H L 13-28
    2011 A L 14-49
    2012 H L 45-52
    2013 H W 48-30
    2014 A L 10-22
    2015 H L 27-30*
    2016 A L 21-40
    2017 H L 6-31
    2018 A W 20-12

    Someone should write a pithy, factual summary of the 2015 debacle -- what exactly went wrong (and in what specific ways) and the fallout (ref suspensions, etc ...). Just to have as a handy reference. The greatest sports injustice I can recall.
    This should inspire them.
    https://mashable.com/2015/11/02/miami-touchdown-duke/

  8. #28
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    Thomasville, NC
    Just beat them, then chant "2015! 2015! Right in their snarky faces!

  9. #29
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    Raleigh
    Quote Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
    Miami (3-13)

    1976 A W 20-7
    1983 H L 17-56
    2005 A L 7-52
    2006 H L 15-20
    2007 A L 14-24
    2008 H L 31-49
    2009 A L 16-34
    2010 H L 13-28
    2011 A L 14-49
    2012 H L 45-52
    2013 H W 48-30
    2014 A L 10-22
    2015 H L 27-30*
    2016 A L 21-40
    2017 H L 6-31
    2018 A W 20-12

    Someone should write a pithy, factual summary of the 2015 debacle -- what exactly went wrong (and in what specific ways) and the fallout (ref suspensions, etc ...). Just to have as a handy reference. The greatest sports injustice I can recall.
    Not needed. Couldn't post photo.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSs3oYtW...jpg&name=small

    Here's my simple summary:

    Knee. Was. Down.

    If you want to embellish a bit more:

    Block(s) in the back (3, maybe 4) is NOT a reviewable penalty.
    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

  10. #30
    From Stewart Mandel in The Athletic:

    “There are currently 73 eligible teams for 78 spots. I have exactly five — Liberty, Michigan State, North Carolina, Ohio and TCU — joining the pool this weekend. Should there be a shortage, Duke (4-7), Boston College (5-6), Middle Tennessee (4-7) and Ole Miss (4-7) would be next in line based on their latest APR scores.”

    So you’re telling me there is still a chance!

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natty_B View Post
    From Stewart Mandel in The Athletic:

    “There are currently 73 eligible teams for 78 spots. I have exactly five — Liberty, Michigan State, North Carolina, Ohio and TCU — joining the pool this weekend. Should there be a shortage, Duke (4-7), Boston College (5-6), Middle Tennessee (4-7) and Ole Miss (4-7) would be next in line based on their latest APR scores.”

    So you’re telling me there is still a chance!
    FWIW...Jerry Palm disagrees and says there are currently 72 eligible teams. Not sure what the discrepancy is.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...20-bowl-games/

  12. #32
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    Thomasville, NC
    If all those teams lose, and we impress someone by beating Miami 100 to 0, maybe, just maybe we sneak in..

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Natty_B View Post
    From Stewart Mandel in The Athletic:

    “There are currently 73 eligible teams for 78 spots. I have exactly five — Liberty, Michigan State, North Carolina, Ohio and TCU — joining the pool this weekend. Should there be a shortage, Duke (4-7), Boston College (5-6), Middle Tennessee (4-7) and Ole Miss (4-7) would be next in line based on their latest APR scores.”

    So you’re telling me there is still a chance!
    Looks like we have multiple reasons for pulling against the Cheats this weekend.

  14. #34
    Missouri bowl ban upheld. Increases chance a 5-7 team makes a bowl.

  15. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie View Post
    Looks like we have multiple reasons for pulling against the Cheats this weekend.
    Amen, brother. Preach.

  16. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie View Post
    Looks like we have multiple reasons for pulling against the Cheats this weekend.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    Amen, brother. Preach.
    Is infinity+1 reasons more than just infinity reasons, or are they both just infinity?

  17. #37
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    Vermont
    Just saw that one of our few bright lights on the football field, kicker AJ Reed, has chosen to graduate and leave the program...might he kick elsewhere next year? He's had a very solid season, one that few expected.
    Bracey is also leaving town, though his production never remotely approached expectations. Best of luck to both of them.

  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilwin View Post
    If all those teams lose, and we impress someone by beating Miami 100 to 0, maybe, just maybe we sneak in..
    Duke doesn't have to impress anyone. Their superlative APR will be the deciding factor. But Duke has to get to five.

  19. #39
    It appears, after surveying multiple sources, that the prevailing view is that 72 teams are currently bowl eligible (the 72 teams listed in the link to Jerry Palm's article above). Because Stewart Mandel's article is behind a paywall, I can't figure out which team he's treating as the 73rd bowl-eligible team.

    13 teams are one win away from bowl eligibility (BC, Cheats, Mich St, Neb, TCU, Kent St, Ohio, Colo, Ore St, Miss St, Troy, UL Monroe, Liberty). All of these teams are 5-6, except for Liberty, who is 6-5 but has two FCS wins, and therefore must win 7 games to be bowl eligible. This list excludes Missouri, who is 5-6 but just had its bowl ban upheld. It also excludes Army. As Palm points out in the linked article, Army is 5-6, must get to 7 wins to be bowl eligible (because it has two FCS wins), but plays a 13-game schedule, and therefore can get to 7-6 if it beats Hawaii this week and Navy on December 14, just 6 days before the first bowl games are scheduled to be played. It's hard to imagine that a bowl could hold out until December 14 to see if Army wins its 7th game (against what will likely be a 9-2 Navy team, no less).

    So if we triumph this Saturday to go to 5-7, then we would be eligible for a bowl if fewer than 6 of the 13 teams listed above win this week.

    Colorado, Oregon State, Troy, and UL Monroe are double-digit underdogs; Boston College (+9), Kent State (+5.5), and Nebraska (+5) are less-prohibitive underdogs. Michigan State, Liberty, Ohio, and TCU are double-digit favorites; the Cheats (-8) and Mississippi State (-3) are narrower favorites.

    That means that we should be rooting for the following teams: Akron (tonight), Ole Miss (Thurs), Eastern Mich, Iowa, West Va., App State (all Fri), New Mexico State, Pitt, Maryland (blech), Oregon, NC State, Utah, and Louisiana (all Sat). If eight of those teams win . . . and if we take care of business against Miami . . . and if the Bowl Powers That Be do not hold out to see how Army fares in three weeks . . . then we would be bowl eligible, regardless of how impressive our victory of Miami is. (Whether we would accept a bowl bid, of course, is another story, and likely hinges on the timing in relation to exams.)

  20. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acymetric View Post
    Is infinity+1 reasons more than just infinity reasons, or are they both just infinity?
    My favorite math proof is that of infinity:

    "For every X, there is an X+1"

    So simple, yet so mind-blowing.

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