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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
    Saw recently there are 156K Duke alumni (presumably living) and that more graduate degrees are awarded every spring than undergraduate ones, so the grad alum base is growing faster.
    Duke ought to allot more Cameron tickets to the graduate and professional students. The undergrads arenít showing up all that well for anything other than UNC.

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    Bob Green
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    Jimís Tuesday article is posted on the front page:

    https://www.dukebasketballreport.com...mpression=true

    Lots of comments on accountability, execution, trust...other than the Wohlabaugh news no injury updates. Iím certain Kraeling is out (based on what I saw Saturday night) and I am concerned about Josh Blackwell.
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    Excluding games against recent FBS addition Liberty and FCS Holy Cross, Cuse has given up an average of 39 ppg. So if we can't get our offense going this week, we surely won't for the rest of this season.

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    High temp of 46 now is the forecast for Saturday, so for the hundreds who show up, wear your woollies...gonna be nippy when the sun departs...

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by luvdahops View Post
    Excluding games against recent FBS addition Liberty and FCS Holy Cross, Cuse has given up an average of 39 ppg. So if we can't get our offense going this week, we surely won't for the rest of this season.
    Duke O versus Syracuse D....probably the two worst units in the conference right now. The very resistible force versus the movable object...
    Don't waste your time on House of Cards S6!
    -We found out Frank was critical to making anyone else in the show interesting...not a surprise...

  7. #27
    Cut's Tuesday press conference is up on GoDuke.com: https://goduke.com/sports/football (I had not seen it last night when I looked -- usually up same day).

    He's unshaven -- first time I recall seeing that in many years of watching his press conferences. Hope that's a sign of spending every available minute getting things back on track. He seems very focused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reilly View Post
    Cut's Tuesday press conference is up on GoDuke.com: https://goduke.com/sports/football (I had not seen it last night when I looked -- usually up same day).

    He's unshaven -- first time I recall seeing that in many years of watching his press conferences. Hope that's a sign of spending every available minute getting things back on track. He seems very focused.
    Heís probably worried about the hot seat and retirement threads on DBR, and hasnít slept in a week. Poor fella.
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    Only tourists but the view is nice"

    -- David Byrne

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    High temp of 46 now is the forecast for Saturday, so for the hundreds who show up, wear your woollies...gonna be nippy when the sun departs...
    And wind = double woollies

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    Quote Originally Posted by du_bb1 View Post
    And wind = double woollies
    Long johns -- close to the skin -- less bulky.
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  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallcity View Post
    Duke ought to allot more Cameron tickets to the graduate and professional students. The undergrads aren’t showing up all that well for anything other than UNC.
    Having been a ugrad, grad, and now usher, there are a few factors that affect the appearance of fullness.

    the undergrad allotment is max 1200-1600. the grad allotment is about half that, with I think ~800 season ticket cards sold, and maybe a hundred more able to squeeze in.

    The grad student sections have extremely wide steps, as opposed to the narrow steps in section 17. This makes gives far more range to make the grad section appear full. On the most crowded days, 18 and 20 are standing 2 deep on each step, with barely a place to stand (and no chance to see much if you're short and behind someone taller on the same step). On less crowded days, it's quite roomy with the ability to move around and get out as necessary. In either case, it appears "full" despite the 2x+ difference in attendance. 17, for the ugrads, on the other hand, only ever has exactly 1 student per row, and thus the appearance of fullness scales far closer to the number of people who show up.

    Another factor is the opportunity. Duke has gone whole hog in on 1 and 2 year revenue grad programs (and I don't mean that derogatorially...I have one for god sakes). This means that a significant amount of the grad student population has a very small time frame to see games. This, coupled with the higher overall population trying to see games increases the demand. If you're only there for 1 year, of course you'll go to see duke beat down cupcake U. In many cases, you are part of a ticket pool whereby you only can see so many games a year, so you'll take what you can get. This helps keep grad attendance more consistent throughout the year.

    A third factor is enthusiasm. The ugrads, overall, are more enthusiastic and wild than the grads. This is no necessarily true on any individual basis, but on the whole. The ugrad are younger, often well lubricated and less able to handle the lubrication, and have no attachements to other universities where they may have done their ugrad. So as the season ticks on, the ugrad section slowly becomes better and better.


    So what's my point? There are a lot of factors that go into the apparent and actual fullness of the sections allotted to the classes of students. Looking back on it now, I to some degree question why I made it a point to get to every game I could as a ugrad (though I suppose at the time, I had no way of knowing I'd still be around 10 years later going to games). I think, yes, it's possible that some grad students could fill out section 17, but I also think that the grad student sections are not so full as to turn people away who would otherwise come for these cupcakes, and thus giving the grads MORE seats would be meaningless...in which case, selling 17 to the general public is a reasonable solution.

    I'll do some snooping on friday to see if I can get some more anecdotal data, especially on grad student demand, as I know the ugrad demand for these type of games...and it's not high. They only allotted 400 or so for the last exhibition, and not even that many showed up. I can't blame them, though, given the upstairs was empty as well...perhaps the least attended game I've seen, even including some of the snow games the past couple years.
    oof

    "If you don't address the things you're not doing well when you're winning the winning will eventually stop."

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    Quote Originally Posted by du_bb1 View Post
    And wind = double woollies
    yessir, basic wind of 14 mph (that's pretty brisk), gusts to 25 mph, high during the day of 43, probably high 30s in the first half...

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    yessir, basic wind of 14 mph (that's pretty brisk), gusts to 25 mph, high during the day of 43, probably high 30s in the first half...
    Now that would be a tough task on the golf course. The win would play havoc with a slice off the tee.

    GoDuke!

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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    yessir, basic wind of 14 mph (that's pretty brisk), gusts to 25 mph, high during the day of 43, probably high 30s in the first half...
    The wind will impact our high powered passing attack. Might be best to stay with bubble screens all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    Saturday unis. https://www.facebook.com/DukeFOOTBAL...8557926537609/
    White (with script Duke) helmet, black top, white pants and shoes.
    WTH? No gray?
    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie View Post
    The wind will impact our high powered passing attack. Might be best to stay with bubble screens all day.
    ha, yes, that had occurred to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie View Post
    The wind will impact our high powered passing attack. Might be best to stay with bubble screens all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    ha, yes, that had occurred to me...
    Maybe we got some more reps in on that RB jump pass, too...

    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnie View Post
    The wind will impact our high powered passing attack. Might be best to stay with bubble screens all day.
    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    Maybe we got some more reps in on that RB jump pass, too...

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    Only tourists but the view is nice"

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    Since it's gonna be chilly, we're doing chili. And stew.
    As always, any game goers are welcome to swing by and join us at tailgate on Blue Devil Alley.

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