Page 1 of 16 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 305
  1. #1

    FB: Syracuse @ Duke - 4 pm - ACCNetwork

    Duke has a 73% chance to win the game and get to 5-5, per the espn power ranking index. Duke is the #57 team in the land and Syracuse #80, per the same source.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football...=150&year=2019

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vermont
    I think it is safe to say that the power index does not take into account trajectory. Looking at season long stats it makes sense; given Duke's performance the last month or so, I think it's seriously askew.

  3. #3

    Duke undefeated against Syracuse

    Syracuse (3-0)

    1938 A W 21-0
    1939 H W 33-6
    2014 A W 27-10

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/goduke.com/...edia_Guide.pdf

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Norfolk, VA
    I will be in my normal spot in Section 19 cheering for an offensive transformation and victory. This is a must win game.

    Early odds in Vegas have Duke a 10.5 points favorite. That’s high in my opinion.
    Bob Green

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vermont
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Green View Post
    I will be in my normal spot in Section 19 cheering for an offensive transformation and victory. This is a must win game.

    Early odds in Vegas have Duke a 10.5 points favorite. That’s high in my opinion.
    very high. Meanwhile I find myself having to set the alarm Saturday for 3:05 a.m. again for Saturday (sure wish I knew game times when I booked my flights, but that ain't possible these days)...I'd like to think we'll be competitive at least.

  6. #6
    Duke

    +35 @VT
    +32 NCAT
    +23 @MTSU
    +18 GT
    ------------------------
    -03 Pitt
    -03 @UNC
    -31 ND
    -34 @UVa
    -39 (N)Bama

    Duke: 0-3 and outscored 106-38 in last three games

    Syracuse

    +38 Holy Cross
    +24 @Liberty
    +19 WesternMich
    -----------------------
    -06 @NCSU
    -07 Pitt
    -18 @FSU
    -31 BC
    -35 Clemson
    -43 @Maryland

    Syracuse: 0-3 and outscored 120-64 in last three games

    SRS: Duke is #53 and Syracuse is #95 and Duke is about 7 points better on neutral field or 10 accounting for 3-point home field advantage -- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...9-ratings.html

    VegasInsider: Duke 10.5 point favorite https://www.vegasinsider.com/college...cfm/team/duke

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Norfolk, VA
    Stats rankings (Conference Games Only) for comparison:

    Scoring Offense: Duke 8/14 (29.4 ppg); Syracuse 13/14 (16 ppg)
    Scoring Defense: Duke 6/14 (26.8 ppg); Syracuse 12/14 (35.4 ppg)

    Glancing through all the categories, Syracuse is ranked higher than Duke in Passing Offense with Duke higher in everything else.
    Bob Green

  8. #8
    We're 4-5.

    We could finish the regular season:

    7-5
    6-6
    5-7
    4-8

    And overall, then, presumably

    8-5
    7-6
    6-7
    5-7
    5-8
    4-8

    8-5 and 7-6 would be good outcomes, meaning we won 4 in a row to end the year (8-5) or if it is 7-6, we went 3-0 down stretch and lost bowl or went 2-1 down stretch and won bowl.

    6-7 I could live with: win 2/3 down stretch to go bowling, but then lose bowl.

    5-8 (going 1-2 down stretch; pity bowl invite that we lose) would be yuck. Think I'd rather have the 5-7 no bowl scenario rather than the 5-8 pity bowl lose scenario.

    4-8 would be very yuck.

    Beat Syracuse, beat WFU, and take it from there ...

  9. #9
    Over / under on attendance?

    Cuse will probably bring 12-15 fans...and NOT 12-15K.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vermont
    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    Over / under on attendance?

    Cuse will probably bring 12-15 fans...and NOT 12-15K.
    I think I know one of them, so they only have to gather up another dozen or so.
    If the preliminary forecast holds, it's going to be another FROSTY affair...High of 49 is now the forecast, and when the sun goes down, the temp will plummet...most people were very under dressed for the ND game, many left early.
    We'll probably get an actual (not announced) crowd in the 18k range or so...

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    Over / under on attendance?

    Cuse will probably bring 12-15 fans...and NOT 12-15K.
    I have to say, I was surprised at the large number of Syracuse fans at the ACC tournament in Charlotte last March. And I’m not talking about the boosters they brought with them, sitting together in their section. I’m talking about many fans dispersed throughout the arena, which led me to believe they must have been primarily locals who had scalped tickets.

    I know Syracuse is a large school with a large alumni base. But are there that many in N.C.? That is a different question, of course, than how many will turn out to support their football team.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    I think I know one of them, so they only have to gather up another dozen or so.
    If the preliminary forecast holds, it's going to be another FROSTY affair...High of 49 is now the forecast, and when the sun goes down, the temp will plummet...most people were very under dressed for the ND game, many left early.
    We'll probably get an actual (not announced) crowd in the 18k range or so...
    But those 15 Syracuse fans should be fine.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by SavDukeGrad View Post
    I know Syracuse is a large school with a large alumni base. .
    Actually it's not. Private school. Under 15K enrolled. Big Apple college fans gravitate towards pulling for "The Cuse" - but that doesn't translate to FB.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vermont
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    But those 15 Syracuse fans should be fine.
    I guess that's true, though on frosty days they're sitting inside the Carrier Dome wearing shorts and sweat shirts, so I suspect many of them are out of practice.
    Key factor, missed by many (including at the ND game) is that a coat that keeps you warm when you're walking around doing stuff is NOT a coat that will keep you warm while you sit still for 3.5 hours.
    I brought my level II Prince Harry in the Arctic coat to the ND game, and by the end of the half, I felt a need to walk around a bit.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Norfolk, VA
    I was adequately dressed Saturday night but still left at end of 3rd quarter due to disgust. I’ll be adequately dressed* this coming Saturday and I plan to stay to the end.

    * long johns, cargo pants, wool socks, t shirt, sweat shirt, overcoat, gloves, wool cap.
    Bob Green

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    Actually it's not. Private school. Under 15K enrolled. Big Apple college fans gravitate towards pulling for "The Cuse" - but that doesn't translate to FB.
    Really? Because I googled before I posted, and it said in 2017 total enrollment was 22,484 (which included grad and law schools) I knew it was private. But that seems pretty big to me.

    Heck, maybe my perspective is off - after all, I went to the largest school of anyone in my immediate family! (With a spouse and one child who went to Wake Forest, and another child who went to W&L, they all feel Duke is big!)

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vermont
    Quote Originally Posted by SavDukeGrad View Post
    Really? Because I googled before I posted, and it said in 2017 total enrollment was 22,484 (which included grad and law schools) I knew it was private. But that seems pretty big to me.

    Heck, maybe my perspective is off - after all, I went to the largest school of anyone in my immediate family! (With a spouse and one child who went to Wake Forest, and another child who went to W&L, they all feel Duke is big!)
    Undergrad enrollment is about 15k, all the other stuff gets you up to 22k.

    by the way, Duke's profile has changed over the years..I remember long ago when Duke had about 6k undergrads, 3-4k graduate students...today it's at 7k undergrad, 9k grad students, total of 16k. Getting bigger.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Grad students are generally* not as enthusiastic about school sports though (or tend to gravitate towards their undergrad team).

    *With the caveat that there are several notable grad student fans on this board, or course

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    I guess that's true, though on frosty days they're sitting inside the Carrier Dome wearing shorts and sweat shirts, so I suspect many of them are out of practice.
    Key factor, missed by many (including at the ND game) is that a coat that keeps you warm when you're walking around doing stuff is NOT a coat that will keep you warm while you sit still for 3.5 hours.
    I brought my level II Prince Harry in the Arctic coat to the ND game, and by the end of the half, I felt a need to walk around a bit.
    Try hot hands. Used it for the first time for ND. Worked ok for hands and great for feet

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    ... today it's at 7k undergrad, 9k grad students, total of 16k. Getting bigger.
    Saw recently there are 156K Duke alumni (presumably living) and that more graduate degrees are awarded every spring than undergraduate ones, so the grad alum base is growing faster.

Similar Threads

  1. WBB: Duke at Syracuse
    By aswewere in forum Elizabeth King Forum
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 01-04-2016, 11:20 PM
  2. WBB: #13 Duke 74, #21 Syracuse 72
    By wandalee in forum Elizabeth King Forum
    Replies: 59
    Last Post: 01-11-2015, 11:01 AM
  3. FB: Duke 27 - Syracuse 10
    By hurleyfor3 in forum Elizabeth King Forum
    Replies: 251
    Last Post: 11-12-2014, 08:45 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •