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    2019 ACC Football - Week 2

    I guess 10 minutes into the first quarter of the Pitt game is as good a time as any to start this.

    Wake and Virginia played yesterday, handling Rice and William & Mary handily.

    The rest of the slate is pretty tepid with the exception of Clemson-Texas A&M and unc-Miami.


    Pitt has a real knack for recruiting players with undesireable names for their positions. Kicker named Blewitt. QB named Pickett. All they need is an RB named Phumbul or a WR named Draup to complete the set.

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    I would not have called Syracuse/Maryland tepid … but Syracuse is doing its best to make it so. Virginia is maybe a good bet to replace Syracuse in the top 25.

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    Virginia has a good football team. I was impressed by what I saw last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 75Crazie View Post
    I would not have called Syracuse/Maryland tepid … but Syracuse is doing its best to make it so. Virginia is maybe a good bet to replace Syracuse in the top 25.
    I'm thinking MD gets that spot. As ESPN says, MD is taking the 'Cuse out to the woodshed right now, and it never hurts to beat a school with a lot of journalist alumni (Syracuse, UNC, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75Crazie View Post
    I would not have called Syracuse/Maryland tepid … but Syracuse is doing its best to make it so. Virginia is maybe a good bet to replace Syracuse in the top 25.
    Yeah, I kind of overlooked that one. Something I either did not know or (possibly more likely) had forgotten is that Scottie is now the OC for Maryland. His offense seems to be humming right along.

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    FSU only up by 3 over UL Monroe, at home, Deep in the fourth quarter. Yikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    FSU only up by 3 over UL Monroe, at home, Deep in the fourth quarter. Yikes.
    They were down 4 just a few minutes ago
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    After Clemson, the rest of the ACC looks wide open this year. Not much separation in the middle of the pack.

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    FSU wins by one in OT. My, how the mighty have fallen.
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    Freaking Miami blew it. Had the holes dead at 4th and 17 on their own 40 with two minutes to play and gave up a first down and then a TD. And couldn’t answer. Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Rosenrosen View Post
    Freaking Miami blew it. Had the holes dead at 4th and 17 on their own 40 with two minutes to play and gave up a first down and then a TD. And couldn’t answer. Pathetic.
    Must not have had the proper refs...

    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Rosenrosen View Post
    Freaking Miami blew it. Had the holes dead at 4th and 17 on their own 40 with two minutes to play and gave up a first down and then a TD. And couldn’t answer. Pathetic.
    Miami made a number of brain dead plays in that game....
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    I just don't understand why the ACC stays so thoroughly mediocre. Has it been 3 or 4 years that we had the really good season? And now reversion back to the mean.

    I would have to go:

    SEC
    Big 10
    Big 12
    PAC 12/ACC Toss up

    Is it coaching, the stadiums, or just plain old Bad JuJu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faison1 View Post
    I just don't understand why the ACC stays so thoroughly mediocre. Has it been 3 or 4 years that we had the really good season? And now reversion back to the mean.

    I would have to go:

    SEC
    Big 10
    Big 12
    PAC 12/ACC Toss up

    Is it coaching, the stadiums, or just plain old Bad JuJu?
    It is more about academics and integrity, with a few minor exceptions and with one notable exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruBlu View Post
    It is more about academics and integrity, with a few minor exceptions and with one notable exception.
    I’d like to think this is true, but I don’t.

    Who is really committed to academic integrity? Duke, UVA, maybe Wake? The rest of the schools aren’t struggling because they’re turning down athletes on academic grounds. And even saying that those three are is not entirely true.

    JMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    I’d like to think this is true, but I don’t.

    Who is really committed to academic integrity? Duke, UVA, maybe Wake? The rest of the schools aren’t struggling because they’re turning down athletes on academic grounds. And even saying that those three are is not entirely true.

    JMHO.
    Well, I did say “more” about honesty and integrity. I did not say the ACC is perfect. As far as the SEC and Big? goes, AFAIK, they each have one (1) University that equates to the three ACC schools you mentioned.

    As you said, JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faison1 View Post
    I just don't understand why the ACC stays so thoroughly mediocre. Has it been 3 or 4 years that we had the really good season? And now reversion back to the mean. Is it coaching, the stadiums, or just plain old Bad JuJu?
    The bottom of the ACC is better than it used to be. During the 1990's, you could count on 3 gift wins from Duke, Wake, and MD 4/5 years. If one of those three was good, someone else was usually down instead.

    Coaching is part of it. Coaching changes are a combination of unrealistic expectations (10+ wins/yr) and the novelty of a new coach for 3-4 years. When you fall below your tolerance point, you change and hope it's better. Most of the ACC doesn't have the ability to improve out of mediocrity except for a flash in the pan season, and I think FSU and VT might be falling back to the pack before their HOF coaches.

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    I don't think I buy the premise that the ACC is that terribly bad...last year I saw Duke (what, 3-5 in the conference) go to Northwestern and dominate the Wildcats, far more than the score indicated (Jones went out with a shoulder injury late in the first half I think, after throwing 3 TD passes)...and NW went on to win the Big 10 West...you can see Sagarin's end of season view of the conferences...for sure the SEC divisions are on top, but the ACC is pretty much in the pack with the rest of the P5 conferences.

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaa...18/conference/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faison1 View Post
    I just don't understand why the ACC stays so thoroughly mediocre. Has it been 3 or 4 years that we had the really good season? And now reversion back to the mean.

    I would have to go:

    SEC
    Big 10
    Big 12
    PAC 12/ACC Toss up

    Is it coaching, the stadiums, or just plain old Bad JuJu?
    First of all, the crashing of Miami and Florida State is a huge reason. Then you add in that Va Tech slipped some. Clemson has risen to the top as that was going on, but the league went from 3 premiere programs to only one.

    As for the stadiums...it's not the stadiums per se. It's the lack of fans to fill them...so many private schools...and even Pitt and Syracuse are kind of quasi private...and Miami is fully private, in addition to Duke, WF, BC and so on. T
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    First of all, the crashing of Miami and Florida State is a huge reason. Then you add in that Va Tech slipped some. Clemson has risen to the top as that was going on, but the league went from 3 premiere programs to only one.

    As for the stadiums...it's not the stadiums per se. It's the lack of fans to fill them...so many private schools...and even Pitt and Syracuse are kind of quasi private...and Miami is fully private, in addition to Duke, WF, BC and so on. T
    Isn't Syracuse actually, fully private? (Tho one of the better private draws not named SC or Notre Dame...)

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