The "Daniel Jones deserves his own thread" thread

[Blue in the Face]

Jones is playing well, it's the offensive line with some penalties that has held them up.

It's also the real lack of supporting cast. The Panthers are obviously lacking, but for the tools he had to work with, Jones was really impressive this week. Next few games will be much tougher - hopefully he'll start getting guys back (though Barkley isn't expected back for at least several weeks).

[cato]

The Giants' plan is to take advantage of Daniel's athleticism -- that's part of the package. IMHO (where the H ran away at halftime), getting tackled as a receiver is a lot less dangerous than taking a sack.

I get it. My concern is that the Giants’ plan will do little more than put lipstick on the pig while sacrificing Daniel Jones’ long term health, whether he is running, receiving or getting demolished in the pocket.

No matter how great an athlete any football player is, there are only so many hits they can take.

But enough of my kvetching. Great catch by Daniel Jones and a nice win for his team. I sure hope his brain will be okay.

[Neals384]

Daniel Jones has played a great second half. Throwing, running and catching! His catch is the play of the day in the NFL. Certainly a Top Ten play on ESPN.

it’s #1 top ten on ESPN!

[brlftz]

Ladies and gentlemen, the PFF top-ranked receiver for week 7

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[DoubleBlue]

it’s #1 top ten on ESPN!

Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRfo9ZW8vM Click forward to 2:27.

[roywhite]

Remind me of Daniel's contract status.

His original contract goes through 2022? And the Giants could pick up a 5th year?

Is there speculation about an extension?

[JasonEvans]

Remind me of Daniel's contract status.

His original contract goes through 2022? And the Giants could pick up a 5th year?

Is there speculation about an extension?

The Giants would have to be on crack not to re-sign him. Do you know how hard it is to find a competent QB? They spent a top of the first round pick on him. If they cut him loose, the entire front office might as well go with him as it would be a huge admission of failure on their part.

[Acymetric]

The Giants would have to be on crack not to re-sign him. Do you know how hard it is to find a competent QB? They spent a top of the first round pick on him. If they cut him loose, the entire front office might as well go with him as it would be a huge admission of failure on their part.

I think the front office will be gone sooner rather than later, regardless.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Remind me of Daniel's contract status.

His original contract goes through 2022? And the Giants could pick up a 5th year?

Is there speculation about an extension?

He's the favorite Giant among most of the NYC media....counting coaches, players and front office types. Which is important.

[Steven43]

The Giants would have to be on crack not to re-sign him. Do you know how hard it is to find a competent QB? They spent a top of the first round pick on him. If they cut him loose, the entire front office might as well go with him as it would be a huge admission of failure on their part.

I think Daniel Jones clearly has the potential to be a top 10 quarterback in this league. I don’t think he’s all that far away from that, honestly.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I think Daniel Jones clearly has the potential to be a top 10 quarterback in this league. I don’t think he’s all that far away from that, honestly.

I agree ,but only if the offense spreads out, vertically and horziontally, and he has deep threats, where his big arm and his speed as a runner can really come to the fore.

[jv001]

I agree ,but only if the offense spreads out, vertically and horziontally, and he has deep threats, where his big arm and his speed as a runner can really come to the fore.

Yes ^, Daniel would be terrific in an offense like say, the Chiefs, Ravens, or Cardinals. Just look at how he's performing with Barkley, all of receivers injured and that offensive line is not very good. He's the best Duke NFL QB since Sonny Jurgensen. I started to say I wish the WFT would get him but I don't want that to happen until the team changes ownership.

GoDuke!

[budwom]

Yeah, the guy on the ultra hot seat is Gettleman...too many unfruitful draft picks. Even though NY is a What Have You Done For Me Lately place, Jones's stock is pretty high right now, his teammates like him...

[nmduke2001]

Yes ^, Daniel would be terrific in an offense like say, the Chiefs, Ravens, or Cardinals. Just look at how he's performing with Barkley, all of receivers injured and that offensive line is not very good. He's the best Duke NFL QB since Sonny Jurgensen. I started to say I wish the WFT would get him but I don't want that to happen until the team changes ownership.

GoDuke!

For QB success, the NFL is all about circumstance. There are probably 5 QBs that would help any team (Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Lamar Jackson, and a few others); the rest it depends on where they were drafted/signed. If Daniel Jones was the QB for the Cowboys, I am confident that he would have Dak-like stats right now. Conversely, if Dak was on the Giants, he would have Daniel Jones-like stats. In my opinion, Guys like Eli Manning and Ben Rothlisberger have fringe hall of fame careers because the team around them got them there when a guy like Romo was blamed for playoff failures even though he carried many of those teams to the playoffs even though they had no business being there.

I hope that Daniel finds a team that has a solid O-line and a decent receiving core and defense.

[uh_no]

For QB success, the NFL is all about circumstance. There are probably 5 QBs that would help any team (Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Lamar Jackson, and a few others); the rest it depends on where they were drafted/signed. If Daniel Jones was the QB for the Cowboys, I am confident that he would have Dak-like stats right now. Conversely, if Dak was on the Giants, he would have Daniel Jones-like stats. In my opinion, Guys like Eli Manning and Ben Rothlisberger have fringe hall of fame careers because the team around them got them there when a guy like Romo was blamed for playoff failures even though he carried many of those teams to the playoffs even though they had no business being there.

I hope that Daniel finds a team that has a solid O-line and a decent receiving core and defense.

Romo also had his share of very prominent miscues late in very prominent games. He likely gets more than his fair share of blame, and certainly he did help carry those teams...but he certainly did not always play as well as he could have in all those situations.

[CameronBornAndBred]

There isn't much that I like about Jameis Winston. (Actually, there is nothing that I like about him.) However, he is a very good example of a QB going from the team that drafted him to a new situation and finding a much better match. Obviously the Bucs are not an awful team, but he sure was awful in Tampa Bay. He moves to New Orleans, and is now leading a team that is 4-2 and is playing much more like the QB that people would have expected in his first seasons.

Hopefully things work out for Jones in New York, I would love to see him succeed there, but if not, hopefully he finds a team that is better suited to him. (I think NY can be that team, but they are cursed with injuries so it's so hard to know for sure.)

[Blue in the Face]

Remind me of Daniel's contract status.

His original contract goes through 2022? And the Giants could pick up a 5th year?

Is there speculation about an extension?

His 5th year option has to be be exercised this coming off-season, I think the deadline is shortly after the draft. I can't imagine there will be any discussions about an extension until after the 2022 season at the earliest.

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Yes ^, Daniel would be terrific in an offense like say, the Chiefs, Ravens, or Cardinals. Just look at how he's performing with Barkley, all of receivers injured and that offensive line is not very good. He's the best Duke NFL QB since Sonny Jurgensen. I started to say I wish the WFT would get him but I don't want that to happen until the team changes ownership.

GoDuke!

Sonny spun a ball like no one else ever. I think at Duke he only averaged 9 passes a game. What a waste. But I was a Skins fan because of Sonny and his Duke ties. There are many NFL experts who view him as the best pure passing talent ever. His spiral was just, well, different. What a talent, and who knew Single Malt belongs on an NFL training regimen...

For QB success, the NFL is all about circumstance. There are probably 5 QBs that would help any team (Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Lamar Jackson, and a few others); the rest it depends on where they were drafted/signed. If Daniel Jones was the QB for the Cowboys, I am confident that he would have Dak-like stats right now. Conversely, if Dak was on the Giants, he would have Daniel Jones-like stats. In my opinion, Guys like Eli Manning and Ben Rothlisberger have fringe hall of fame careers because the team around them got them there when a guy like Romo was blamed for playoff failures even though he carried many of those teams to the playoffs even though they had no business being there.

I hope that Daniel finds a team that has a solid O-line and a decent receiving core and defense.

Interesting theory you have about circumstance, and I think very valid. It would be cool to see DJ with Andy Reid for example. Also reminds me of Dave Brown, who I fully think had a big time NFL arm and could have been a big success...but he was destroyed by Dan Reeve's way outdated way of thinking about offense.

[devilnfla]

For QB success, the NFL is all about circumstance. There are probably 5 QBs that would help any team (Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady, Lamar Jackson, and a few others); the rest it depends on where they were drafted/signed. If Daniel Jones was the QB for the Cowboys, I am confident that he would have Dak-like stats right now. Conversely, if Dak was on the Giants, he would have Daniel Jones-like stats. In my opinion, Guys like Eli Manning and Ben Rothlisberger have fringe hall of fame careers because the team around them got them there when a guy like Romo was blamed for playoff failures even though he carried many of those teams to the playoffs even though they had no business being there.

I hope that Daniel finds a team that has a solid O-line and a decent receiving core and defense.

You lost me at Ben being a fringe Hall of Famer. I hate the Steelers but have to admit, Ben is a easy lock for the HOF.

[53n206]

Was his classmate. A good friend of mine, from his area, described Sonny’ s high school career - tereffic. Watched him at practice, where he would throw the returns backing to the punter practicers with hardly any leg action. Awesome