I'm also thinking that once you take Jones out of the Dukies in the NFL thread, there isn't a whole lot left, is there?
Should we change the thread title to "Baker Mayfield deserves his own thread" at this point?
I'm also thinking that once you take Jones out of the Dukies in the NFL thread, there isn't a whole lot left, is there?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ones-clear-air
Sums up my take on this whole deal:
If Mayfield wanted to diss Jones he wouldn't have backed away from it.Mayfield has a history of being open and honest about his opinion on other coaches and players. Last year, he called ex-Browns head coach Hue Jackson "fake," and he said this summer that he didn't like Texas quarterback Sam Ehlinger.
"If I had a problem with someone, I'm pretty sure I've made it very clear I will say I have a problem with someone," Mayfield said.
"That's why I felt like reaching out to Daniel. That's the type of thing that frustrates me because it was taken out of context."
The way the GQ article gives the quotes, it is clear there was at least some discussion between the comment about DJ and the comment about "you have to win" (GQ makes no indication as to how much conversation happened in between them, which raises flags for me that they were just trying to stir things up) and entirely plausible that the second comment wasn't actually in reference to DJ.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking
Because it's not an appropriate analogy. The comparison was on how much winning should be prioritized when evaluating a qb for the draft. You keep wanting to sstrawman that position. Your failure to recognize that isn't the fault of Baker, myself,or anyone else.
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking
I understand your point, and technically you are correct. However, I think HBCK’s point is valid as well. Mayfield shouldn’t be talking about winning as if that defines him when his Cleveland Browns team finished the season under .500 and the teams they beat were mostly mediocre at best.
Sure, his teams at Oklahoma won a lot of games, but the Sooners are loaded with talent every year on both sides of the ball. They could put any pretty good QB behind center and win virtually 90% of their games every season.
Of course, it isn't even clear that Mayfield was even talking about Jones when he made the comment about winning, so maybe we can just let this go.
Besides, just about everyone was surprised the Giants took Jones at #6. Most people were expecting him to go in the 15-20 range in the lead up to the draft. Some of the people here who are ripping Mayfield were on record on this very same board as being surprised he was even projected to go that high in the pre-draft discussion.
[redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.