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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    I stumbled across the game last night and watched about a quarter. I need someone to explain to me why the NFL is seen as being so very exciting compared to baseball...seemed like a dull grind punctuated by a vast number of commercials.
    Because baseball is that awful.
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    I actually thought the game was fairly entertaining despite the low score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNort View Post
    Because baseball is that awful.
    Playoff baseball is better than any game of football will ever dream of being, but perhaps I'm in the minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudog84 View Post
    And Gottlieb is catching a lot of heat from real athletes. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Aikman even went after their mutual employer:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...K61?li=BBnb7Kz
    To each his own.
    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acymetric View Post
    I actually thought the game was fairly entertaining despite the low score.
    The defense was really good both ways, and a lot of interesting things happened given the low score. Sort of like the 1-0 pitcher’s dual with a few bases-loaded situations mixed in. The casual fan/viewer might have been turned off by this.

    As a Bears fan, it was a frustrating game. And probably until the pick it was likely frustrating for the Packers. But it was close and tense throughout.

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    One can never find enough entertainingly dumb acts performed by NFL players these days, but Antonio Brown has to be in the running for some prize as he just got released by the Raiders, for whom he never played...and away goes $29 million in guaranteed money. Wonder who will try to deal with him next? There's a point at which other teams may not want to go near him, but I doubt we're close to that point...at 4:01pm, any other team can take a shot at him.
    Gruden begged him to stop the drama and just play football, but it wasn't to be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    One can never find enough entertainingly dumb acts performed by NFL players these days, but Antonio Brown has to be in the running for some prize as he just got released by the Raiders, for whom he never played...and away goes $29 million in guaranteed money. Wonder who will try to deal with him next? There's a point at which other teams may not want to go near him, but I doubt we're close to that point...at 4:01pm, any other team can take a shot at him.
    Gruden begged him to stop the drama and just play football, but it wasn't to be...
    You're sure that he'll clear waivers? That nobody wants to pick up that guaranteed $29 million obligation for such a team oriented guy?

    Drew Rosenhaus has got to be furious with AB. He somehow got the Raiders to back off suspending AB (which would have voided the guaranteed money) even though the Raider PLAYERS supported the suspension.

    Brown was in the absolute supreme position of power, he had completely disrespected the GM, and yet the Raiders backed down from the suspension. All AB had to do was shut up, play ONE GAME, and PRESTO - $30 million guaranteed. And he had proven to be the Alpha -

    But Nooooo. He couldn't let it go. I don't know how much personal credibility Rosenhaus had to put on the table to get the Raiders to back down, but considering it left Mayock without his manparts, I'd bet it was considerable.

    And still, AB couldn't keep it together for 3 days for $30 million. In addition to his credibility, Rosenhaus just lost millions of dollars.

    I'll bet teams let AB stew for a while, but the first team to lose a key receiver to injury comes running with a one year offer. Can a contract be predicated on a psych eval ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    You're sure that he'll clear waivers? That nobody wants to pick up that guaranteed $29 million obligation for such a team oriented guy?

    Drew Rosenhaus has got to be furious with AB. He somehow got the Raiders to back off suspending AB (which would have voided the guaranteed money) even though the Raider PLAYERS supported the suspension.

    Brown was in the absolute supreme position of power, he had completely disrespected the GM, and yet the Raiders backed down from the suspension. All AB had to do was shut up, play ONE GAME, and PRESTO - $30 million guaranteed. And he had proven to be the Alpha -

    But Nooooo. He couldn't let it go. I don't know how much personal credibility Rosenhaus had to put on the table to get the Raiders to back down, but considering it left Mayock without his manparts, I'd bet it was considerable.

    And still, AB couldn't keep it together for 3 days for $30 million. In addition to his credibility, Rosenhaus just lost millions of dollars.

    I'll bet teams let AB stew for a while, but the first team to lose a key receiver to injury comes running with a one year offer. Can a contract be predicated on a psych eval ?
    AB C'ya...

    I don't know that this guy wants to play football anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    You're sure that he'll clear waivers? That nobody wants to pick up that guaranteed $29 million obligation for such a team oriented guy?
    He definitely would have cleared waivers, but for some reason he is not going through waivers first and is immediately eligible as a free agent as of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    You're sure that he'll clear waivers? That nobody wants to pick up that guaranteed $29 million obligation for such a team oriented guy?

    Drew Rosenhaus has got to be furious with AB. He somehow got the Raiders to back off suspending AB (which would have voided the guaranteed money) even though the Raider PLAYERS supported the suspension.

    Brown was in the absolute supreme position of power, he had completely disrespected the GM, and yet the Raiders backed down from the suspension. All AB had to do was shut up, play ONE GAME, and PRESTO - $30 million guaranteed. And he had proven to be the Alpha -

    But Nooooo. He couldn't let it go. I don't know how much personal credibility Rosenhaus had to put on the table to get the Raiders to back down, but considering it left Mayock without his manparts, I'd bet it was considerable.

    And still, AB couldn't keep it together for 3 days for $30 million. In addition to his credibility, Rosenhaus just lost millions of dollars.

    I'll bet teams let AB stew for a while, but the first team to lose a key receiver to injury comes running with a one year offer. Can a contract be predicated on a psych eval ?
    yup, even by NFL standards a remarkably dimwitted move...his next contract will guarantee nothing but brevity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Didn't see a generic NFL season thread, just the Dukies in the NFL thread on the EK Board so thought I'd get one going now that we're a few weeks out.

    First, what in the heck is going on with AB and his helmet and his damn cryogenic-ally frost bitten feet? Dude's a hot mess and we're not even at week 1 yet.

    Looking forward to having these questions answered (for starters)...

    1. Is the hype around the Browns deserved? I hope it is...
    2. What will Mahomes do for an encore? Goes without saying but I'm looking forward to watching that kid play football for the next 10-15 year.
    3. Can Wentz stay healthy and get the SB MVP-trophy wielding BDN Foles monkey off his back? No way watching his back-up gun the Eagles to a SB two years ago didn't jack up the pressure on the franchise QB...
    4. How long can Brady and Brees keep running it back? I'm not 40 yet but I was out digging up roots this afternoon and I think I'll be down until at least Wednesday. Those dudes are impressive.
    5. Is this the year Dan Synder finally collapses under the weight of his own Napoleon complex freeing Redskins nation of the least fan friendly owner in the league? (Yeah, right).
    6. Is this the final season Jerry Jones bounces Jason Garrett on his knee? Will Tony Romo keep killing playcalling?
    7. Can McVay, Goff, and Donald do it again? Have we already passed peak Gurley?
    First question, answered. Well, wasn't a question and I was far too presumptuous in implying there'd be a week 1 for AB and the Raiders! Silly me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    yup, even by NFL standards a remarkably dimwitted move...his next contract will guarantee nothing but brevity.
    You mean his contract with your New England Patriots??
    "Amazing what a minute can do."

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    yup, even by NFL standards a remarkably dimwitted move...his next contract will guarantee nothing but brevity.
    I would pay good money to see AB pull up in a balloon to anything organized by Bill Belichick. He’d be cut if he did it at a charity event.
    Carolina delenda est

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    I clearly don't understand how the NFL cap works... how did the Pats just have $15 mil of cap space lying around to give to AB?
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

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    AB gets cut and lands in New England? Geez. This quickly went from "Antonio Brown is finally being held accountable for his BS," to "Antonio Brown again getting exactly exactly what he wants" over, well, four hours.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    You're sure that he'll clear waivers? That nobody wants to pick up that guaranteed $29 million obligation for such a team oriented guy?

    Drew Rosenhaus has got to be furious with AB. He somehow got the Raiders to back off suspending AB (which would have voided the guaranteed money) even though the Raider PLAYERS supported the suspension.

    Brown was in the absolute supreme position of power, he had completely disrespected the GM, and yet the Raiders backed down from the suspension. All AB had to do was shut up, play ONE GAME, and PRESTO - $30 million guaranteed. And he had proven to be the Alpha -

    But Nooooo. He couldn't let it go. I don't know how much personal credibility Rosenhaus had to put on the table to get the Raiders to back down, but considering it left Mayock without his manparts, I'd bet it was considerable.

    And still, AB couldn't keep it together for 3 days for $30 million. In addition to his credibility, Rosenhaus just lost millions of dollars.

    I'll bet teams let AB stew for a while, but the first team to lose a key receiver to injury comes running with a one year offer. Can a contract be predicated on a psych eval ?
    I'm completely convinced Antonio Brown and his agent knew exactly what they were doing. Even if they didn't, Brown is now going to be catching passes from Tom Brady. Just a day ago it was Derek Carr. Sometimes it pays to be stupid . . . or incredibly clever.

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    So, riddle me this. Why would the Raiders cut Brown allowing another team to pick him up for free? Why not keep him suspended, he would miss his game checks, he would refuse to report after the suspension and continue missing game checks.

    I really want this to be the character gamble that finally bites the Patriots in the keister but I guess time will tell.

    Quote Originally Posted by duke4ever19 View Post
    I'm completely convinced Antonio Brown and his agent knew exactly what they were doing. Even if they didn't, Brown is now going to be catching passes from Tom Brady. Just a day ago it was Derek Carr. Sometimes it pays to be stupid . . . or incredibly clever.
    I am willing to buy a couple shares of this theory. I would have to believe that, if it were true and any proof ever came to light, it would violate some NFL policy that would cost Brown or the Patriots significantly. On the other hand, not many players have the cards to be able to play it the way AB did.

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    I think he got in practices and saw what life without Big Ben was like. He's been organizing this since he saw how bad Carr was. Now he has Brady...
    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Stephen Hawking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    AB gets cut and lands in New England? Geez. This quickly went from "Antonio Brown is finally being held accountable for his BS," to "Antonio Brown again getting exactly exactly what he wants" over, well, four hours.
    as we say around here, Antonio Brown fell into the outhouse and came out with a gold watch...OK, he blew $20 million guaranteed (this deal guarantees $10 million evidently)...however, we should all acknowledge that he hasn't hit the field yet, he could still go off the rails on this deal, though his agent is probably going to babysitting him non stop...Belichick's tolerance for shenanigans is minimal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    I clearly don't understand how the NFL cap works... how did the Pats just have $15 mil of cap space lying around to give to AB?
    The Pats are rarely ever near the salary cap. Between Brady taking below market value every year and them not signing big-name free agents very often (nor overpaying their own), they are constantly flexible in their cap.

    Also, if you don’t hit the cap in a given year, some of that rolls over into the next year (meaning you can go over the cap).

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