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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottdude8 View Post
    Filipowski plays travel-ball for the nephew of Duke leading man Mike Krzyzewski.
    That would be former Blue Devil Andy Borman, a member of the 2001 National Championship team.
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  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    That would be former Blue Devil Andy Borman, a member of the 2001 National Championship team.
    Yeah, but what do you know about the 2001 team?

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Key line in that is that Coach K is taking the lead in recruiting. Kyle Filipowski is a top target if Coach K is the lead recruiter. That also gives you some sort insight into the question "is Coach K thinking of stepping down?" The answer is no, he is not thinking that right now. That doesn't surprise me one bit.
    Doesn't Coach K take the lead on recruiting all the guys whose names end in "ski"?
    Rich
    "Failure is Not a Destination"
    Coach K on the Dan Patrick Show, December 22, 2016

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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by English View Post
    A lot of players? What's a lot to you? A dozen? 15? This is one narrative, certainly, and time will tell on your forecast (I vehemently disagree, but that's not really relevant), but to-date, there have NOT been a lot of players with this mindset. It's a real outlier player that's gone that way. Jalen Green himself said via social media that he'd be in the discussion for top overall pick if he had played college ball rather than the G League route.

    To your point about "many" of the players who go the college-alternative league path maturing and improving faster than they would had they chosen college...I'm confused where that conclusion is coming from. Who are these players? How do you even judge that hypothesis? Getting paid faster than a similar number of years in college? Sure. Maturing and improving faster? Highly questionable.
    I could be wrong, of course, but here are some reasons why I think this.

    First, there are many other countries where basketball players turn pro at earlier ages. Luka Doncic, for example, turned pro when he was 15. He's exceptional, of course, but lots of European players turn pro without doing anything that looks like college sports. In fact, while I haven't heard this as much recently, some scouts have attributed the improvement in European basketball success in the NBA to the fact that their players are full-time basketball players from earlier ages, with concomitant gains in skill level.

    Second, there are already a *lot* of US kids who go pro at the first current opportunity - i.e., after their freshman year - and many of these players know that they are unlikely to make an NBA roster in their first year or two out of school. Why do they do it? I think that many of them don't particularly like school and think that they can improve more quickly without that extra obligation. I don't see why they're wrong. I don't think, for example, that DJ Steward (and Marques Bolden before him) has any serious expectation that he will make an NBA roster (or make anything like an NBA salary) next year. Rather, I see it as him thinking that he's going to improve more in the minor leagues than he would if he stayed at Duke and had to worry about school.

    Third, I think this will snowball further if, as I expect, the NBA's next collective bargaining agreement again allows kids to go directly from high school to the NBA.

    Again, I could be wrong about some of this, but that is where I see the American basketball culture headed.

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedog View Post
    I've heard getting offers from Ecuador is harder...Sorry couldn't resist as this is DBR. In all seriousness, I appreciate the insights!
    I have very good friends (heís a fraternity brother) that just retired and moved to Ecuador last week. The cost of living down there is very cheap and apparently many Americans do it.
    Ozzie, your paradigm of optimism!

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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    I remember Gary. His 39 points against Maryland in Cameron was one of the highlights of the early 70's for Duke, I actually met Gary many years later on Bald Head Island of all places. Really nice guy.
    The only b-ball highlight of my freshman year. Still one of the five loudest crowds Iíve heard in Cameron!
    Ozzie, your paradigm of optimism!

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  8. #148

    Mark Mitchell Schedules a Trip

    Top prospect Mark Mitchell will be visiting Duke's campus in June according to Jake Weingarten. The Kansas SF is going on several trips this spring, ending in Durham June 28-29. Other stops include UCLA, Missouri, and Oklahoma State.

    https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/s...15291153768448

  9. #149

    Kyle Filipowski Adds On

    Jake Weingarten tweets that Kyle "Flip" Filipowski will join Mark Mitchell on June 28-29 for an official visit to Duke's campus. Flip has a busy schedule and will finish with Duke after visiting Syracuse, Ohio State, Indiana, and Iowa. He'll also take unofficial visits to UConn and Northwestern.

    https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/s...69877097553927

  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZIE4DUKE View Post
    I have very good friends (heís a fraternity brother) that just retired and moved to Ecuador last week. The cost of living down there is very cheap and apparently many Americans do it.
    Quito is spectacular at 9,350 feet and -- for now, at least -- Ecuador uses the US dollar.
    Sage Grouse

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    'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013

  11. #151
    Not much of an update, but Tipton Edits notes that Duke is among the teams recruiting 7'0" C Dereck Lively the hardest. Lively is considered one of the top 50 players in the class of 2022 and projects as an athletic and versatile scorer and rim protector a la Myles Turner. All of the top programs are after Lively, including Duke, Kentucky, Michigan, UNC, etc. We'll see if he schedules an official visit this summer or fall. Lively plays his high school ball at Philadelphia's Westtown, where Cam Reddish played.


  12. #152
    According to Tipton Edits, who does alot of commitment graphics and talks alot to high school players, Duke is interested in Jazian Gortman.

    https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/stat...246070276?s=20

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Not much of an update, but Tipton Edits notes that Duke is among the teams recruiting 7'0" C Dereck Lively the hardest. Lively is considered one of the top 50 players in the class of 2022 and projects as an athletic and versatile scorer and rim protector a la Myles Turner. All of the top programs are after Lively, including Duke, Kentucky, Michigan, UNC, etc. We'll see if he schedules an official visit this summer or fall. Lively plays his high school ball at Philadelphia's Westtown, where Cam Reddish played.

    Quick update on Derek Lively: His first official visit will be at UNC-CH in early June.

    https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/s...80998898487299

    I like the package of skills and physical makeup. Now that UNC is after him, I would like him to land at Duke even more.

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by 907bluedevils View Post
    According to Tipton Edits, who does alot of commitment graphics and talks alot to high school players, Duke is interested in Jazian Gortman.

    https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/stat...246070276?s=20
    Good find. Interesting to see Duke after a PG, in particular one that isn't top 25/top 10 (like Jaden Bradley). 247Sports has Gortman as a top 50 player and composite ranking of 32. It could mean a couple of things.

    1) the staff is not sure if Jeremy Roach is going to be gone after the 2021-22 season, OR
    2) the kid is underrated

    Anyway, here's some video highlights of a recent matchup against Kentucky commit Skyy Clark. Gortman is FAST and athletic. He seems to enjoy whipping the ball to open teammates and can knife his way through traffic.


  15. #155

    Derek Lively Schedules a Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Quick update on Derek Lively: His first official visit will be at UNC-CH in early June.

    https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/s...80998898487299

    I like the package of skills and physical makeup. Now that UNC is after him, I would like him to land at Duke even more.
    Another update: Lively will be making an official visit to Duke in late June/early July. The first day of his OV, June 29th, lines up with the dates that Mark Mitchell and Kyle Filipowski will be on campus. It would be nice if the group hits it off, maybe starts a group text or something like that.

    https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/s...89846334074881

  16. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Good find. Interesting to see Duke after a PG, in particular one that isn't top 25/top 10 (like Jaden Bradley). 247Sports has Gortman as a top 50 player and composite ranking of 32. It could mean a couple of things.

    1) the staff is not sure if Jeremy Roach is going to be gone after the 2021-22 season, OR
    2) the kid is underrated
    3) The team is interested in seeing what it gets once Jaylen Blakes is on campus to judge whether he can become a starting Duke PG down the road.
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  17. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    3) The team is interested in seeing what it gets once Jaylen Blakes is on campus to judge whether he can become a starting Duke PG down the road.
    ooh, I think he can eventually be a very good contributor, but I'm not sure he has the quickness to be a starting PG...

  18. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    ooh, I think he can eventually be a very good contributor, but I'm not sure he has the quickness to be a starting PG...
    Yeah, I'm far from certain of what kind of role he can play this season or going forward. I'm just saying we need to see how he does competing with the rest of the team in summer scrimmages and the such before we make any long-term judgements.

    Wasn't nobody out there who thought Jordan Goldwire could be a contributor for Duke and Blakes has a far, far, far better high school ranking than JGold did.

    -Jason "I'm basically just saying not to write him off" Evans
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  19. #159

    Dariq Whitehead schedules a visit

    One of the top players in the Class of 2022, 6'6" SG/SF Dariq Whitehead, will be taking an official visit to Duke on June 11th. Whitehead is a talented, athletic forward that played on the loaded Montverde Academy team last year. While Whitehead has been a fan of Duke for a long time, don't expect a quick decision. Here's what he told Jason Jordan of SI:

    Whitehead will take an official visit to Duke on June 11, which is especially notable since Whitehead grew up a fan of the Blue Devils.

    “I’m a big fan of Coach K and what he has done at Duke,” Whitehead said.

    Be that as it may, Whitehead contended that he’s “a ways away” from even formatting a list of schools he wants to focus on, let alone a decision.

    “Right now, we’re just thinking about how and when we want to cut the list, where we want to take visits, if it’s better to wait and see who goes where, everything,” Whitehead said. “I’m just enjoying the process right now and remaining open. I know this is a big decision, so I want to be thorough with every part of it.”
    https://www.si.com/college/recruitin...-visit-to-duke

    As you can probably guess, Whitehead has a lot of suitors. It's nice to see he will be visiting Duke early on.


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    So how does Todayís news change recruiting?

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