Originally Posted by
CamrnCrz1974
I think this highlights the issue for many. Coach G's worst years were when she took over a program with very little tradition that was at or near the bottom of the ACC. Coach P's worst years have come more recently, as the program has trended downward. Duke could miss the NCAA Tournament for the third time in five years if this season does not turn around (hopefully, the win against VaTech and the return of Mikayla Boykin will jumpstart the squad).
As far as the team's overall performance being not all that different from the Coach G years to the Coach P years, looking at the best years of the program, I think it depends on the metrics you are using. You did a great job of gathering information regarding the number of possessions, turnovers, 2pt FGs, etc. (side note...when you have a chance, it would be great if you could please share where you were able to find that information, as I would like to add it to my "favorites").
But someone could point to the last 10 years of the Goestenkors era and compare it to 12 years of the McCallie tenure (not including 2019-20, the current season) to find this:
OVERALL RECORD:
Goestenkors: 301-46 (86.74 percent)
McCallie: 312-95 (76.65 percent)
ACC RECORD:
Goestenkors: 138-16 (89.61 percent)
McCallie: 138-48 (74.19 percent)
ACC FINISHES:
Goestenkors: 8 regular season ACC titles, 5 ACCT championships, 8 years finishing 1st, 2 years finishing 2nd
McCallie: 4 regular season ACC titles, 3 ACCT championships, 4 years finishing 1st, 2 years finishing 2nd, 2 years finishing 3rd, 2 years finishing 4th, 1 year finishing 7th, 1 year finishing 10th
NCAA RECORD:
Goestenkors: 33-10 (two NCAA runners-up, four Final Fours, seven years at least making the Elite Eight, all ten years at least making the Sweet 16)
McCallie: 21-10 (zero Final Fours, four Elite Eights, seven years at least making the Sweet 16, three second round losses, two years missing the NCAAT altogether)
Against Top 5 Opponents:
Goestenkors: 18-18 (50.00 percent)
McCallie: 8-36 (18.18 percent)
Against Top 10 Opponents:
Goestenkors: 34-18 (65.38 percent)
McCallie: 22-49 (30.98 percent)
Against Ranked Opponents:
Goestenkors: 81-34 (70.43 percent)
McCallie: 72-67 (51.79 percent)
Again, this is the last 10 years of Gail Goestenkors vs. 12 years of Joanne P. McCallie, not including 2019-20, the current season.
When I have a chance this week, I will have to run the numbers and use the best years of the McCallie era and compare it to the best years of the Goestenkors era. I will likely use 2009-10, 2010-11, 2011-12, and 2012-13, as these were the four years that McCallie's teams made the Elite Eight. The other really good McCallie years were 2008-09 (27-6 record), 2013-14 (28-6 record, lost Gray and Jones to injury later in the season), and 2016-17 (28-6 record, Lexie Brown's first year at Duke).
Anyway, you raised an interesting point about looking at the best years of each coach and the lens through which we look. Is it quality of play? Is it perceived quality of play? Is it year-end record? Is it NCAAT results?