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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    I disagree. I love Zion, I love watching him, I will continue to enjoy watching him at the next level.

    However... We should not take risks like this if it becomes what it appears to be.
    What does it appear to be?

  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by freshmanjs View Post
    What does it appear to be?
    Vacated season.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    Vacated season.
    That will change the way I see our beloved program.

  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    Vacated season.
    I don’t think there’s ANY reason to start catastrophising and even talking about that as a possibility. There is ONE TWEET of evidence right now. I think some restraint needs to be exercised on everyone’s part right now.

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    Vacated season.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    That will change the way I see our beloved program.
    Surprised some here are so quick to jump to conclusions. Even if she took a consulting job with Nike, it's not at all clear that is a violation or would mean he was ineligible.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    That will change the way I see our beloved program.
    Why? Did we do anything wrong? Did Zion do anything wrong?

    It's the risk we all knew that happens with recruiting 4* and 5*. Even K admitted that there is always this risk.

    When was the last time that a team won without at least some 4* recruits.

  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    I don't like that one bit. Would make me rethink a lot of things.
    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    There is always this chance when we recruit 4 and 5 stars. We do our due diligence and have to live with the risk.
    Duke went through an NCAA pre-screen on Zion and got a clean bill of health. Moreover, we have parent and family counseling sessions before school starts. I think there's some hysteria in this thread. Of course, in other threads, c'est moi...
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    Duke went through an NCAA pre-screen on Zion and got a clean bill of health. Moreover, we have parent and family counseling sessions before school starts. I think there's some hysteria in this thread. Of course, in other threads, c'est moi...
    Well, it is the off-season for DBR...
    “Coach said no 3s.” - Zion on The Block

  9. #129
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    Avenatti is one of the most dishonest lawyers in the USA. NCAA is dishonest as well. What a waste of time and money for this investigation.

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    That will change the way I see our beloved program.
    I don't think anyone should change the way they see things based on something proelitedota says.

  11. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    Vacated season.
    If I read DBR without any usernames attached to the posts, I could pick your posts out in ten seconds.

  12. #132
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    as long as no one at duke knew about it, what is the scandal? if this is even true. remember the source!

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by JetpackJesus View Post
    I don't think anyone should change the way they see things based on something proelitedota says.
    Yeah, that's not what I'm saying at all.

    I am probably naive, but I enjoy imagining that Duke is one of the only programs that does things the right way. If I learn otherwise, I will rethink my relationship with college basketball.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by proelitedota View Post
    Vacated season.
    My Grandfather always told me: "Don't borrow trouble. Wait for it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoor66 View Post
    My Grandfather always told me: "Don't borrow trouble. Wait for it."
    Your grandfather was a wise man.

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    Zero evidence, zero.

    Avenetti backed out of an interview and instead "dumped" documents that were already expected to exist.

    How would he have records of Nike payments to Zion's mom? If, as alleged, there was no middleman, he would have no access to the records.

    This is a classic sleazy ploy, include unsupported allegations with allegations you can support, and they "withhold" the supposed evidence of the unsupported allegations. If these were true (see here's the proof) then these must be true too!

    Why would he withhold the supporting evidence? What does it gain him?

    I guess we should believe him because of his history of honesty. Why would he lie now?

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    Zero evidence, zero.

    Avenetti backed out of an interview and instead "dumped" documents that were already expected to exist.

    How would he have records of Nike payments to Zion's mom? If, as alleged, there was no middleman, he would have no access to the records.

    This is a classic sleazy ploy, include unsupported allegations with allegations you can support, and they "withhold" the supposed evidence of the unsupported allegations. If these were true (see here's the proof) then these must be true too!

    Why would he withhold the supporting evidence? What does it gain him?

    I guess we should believe him because of his history of honesty. Why would he lie now?
    What is his conceivable motivation, though?

  18. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    What is his conceivable motivation, though?
    attention
    1200. DDMF.

  19. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyman25 View Post
    Avenatti is one of the most dishonest lawyers in the USA. NCAA is dishonest as well. What a waste of time and money for this investigation.
    Why cant Duke go after him?damage to the institutions reputation ect.

  20. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    What is his conceivable motivation, though?
    Psychosis
    “Coach said no 3s.” - Zion on The Block

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