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    2010 Duke and 2019 UVA

    Anyone else notice the crazy similarity between these 2 teams?

    Ty Jerome and Jon Scheyer: both combo guards that initiated the offense even though they weren't "pure PGs"
    Kyle Guy and Nolan Smith: both great scoring guards
    DeAndre Hunter and Kyle Singler: versatile wings and projected 1st round picks
    Lance Thomas and Mamadi Diakite: bulldogs defensively
    Jack Salt and Brian Zoubek: giant screen setters who can rebound

    Now some of these players are better than others (Zoubek>Salt for instance) but the general structure of the teams is eerily similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeTrinity11 View Post
    Anyone else notice the crazy similarity between these 2 teams?

    Ty Jerome and Jon Scheyer: both combo guards that initiated the offense even though they weren't "pure PGs"
    Kyle Guy and Nolan Smith: both great scoring guards
    DeAndre Hunter and Kyle Singler: versatile wings and projected 1st round picks
    Lance Thomas and Mamadi Diakite: bulldogs defensively
    Jack Salt and Brian Zoubek: giant screen setters who can rebound

    Now some of these players are better than others (Zoubek>Salt for instance) but the general structure of the teams is eerily similar.
    No, not really. Jerome was a PG from the day he stepped on campus and backed up Perrantes. Pretty much every championship teams has a great scoring guard and a wing. Kihei had no parallel on Duke. Salt barely played in the tournament. UVA didn't offensive rebound like Duke. I don't really see any particular personnel similarities actually vs. what you could say about most good teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshmanjs View Post
    No, not really. Jerome was a PG from the day he stepped on campus and backed up Perrantes. Pretty much every championship teams has a great scoring guard and a wing. Kihei had no parallel on Duke. Salt barely played in the tournament. UVA didn't offensive rebound like Duke. I don't really see any particular personnel similarities actually vs. what you could say about most good teams.
    Jerome and Scheyer are very much a like. Both are 6"5 combo guards without elite speed or athleticism but both are great decision makers who can score the rock or play off the ball.

    Obviously not every player is going to have a similarity so I didn't mean this is a literal comparison. Kihei Clark is a very low usage player.

    You're right on the offensive rebounding front but I just find the similarities between The Big 3 on both squads: Jerome-Guy-Hunter and Scheyer-Smith-Singler to be fascinating.

    Actually, a lot of recent championship teams have featured smaller dual PGs rather than a combo lead guard and a true SG who curls off screens and pindowns and rarely initiates the offense:

    2013: Smith and Siva
    2014: Napier and Boatright
    2015: Cook and Jones
    2016: Brunson and Arcidiacano

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshmanjs View Post
    No, not really. Jerome was a PG from the day he stepped on campus and backed up Perrantes. Pretty much every championship teams has a great scoring guard and a wing. Kihei had no parallel on Duke. Salt barely played in the tournament. UVA didn't offensive rebound like Duke. I don't really see any particular personnel similarities actually vs. what you could say about most good teams.
    Count me in as not seeing many similarities here.

    - Nolan was a better scorer and defender than Guy
    - Hunter is a more well rounded and more athletic player than Singler
    - Lance Thomas and Diakite are nothing alike IMO

    Scheyer and Jerome were fairly similar, but that's about it.

    Also, Duke had Andre Dawkins on the bench, who was more of a shooter than any of the other players on UVA and a pair of Plumlees. UVA's bench was Braxton Key, Kehai Clark and Jay Huff.

    That Duke team played slow (229 in kenpom tempo), but nowhere near as slow as UVA (353 in kenpom tempo).

    The main similarities were that both Duke and UVA were top 5 in offense and defense efficiency, but every team that wins the title is good on both ends.

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