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    2019 NCAA Tournament Map

    We did this last year (although due to scheduling issues I likely will not be able to do game-by-game updates this season). The more detailed explanation is in last year's thread, but the general principle is that each county in the country is assigned to the 68 NCAA tournament teams by geographic proximity (distance from home arena to geographic center of the county) and then the map consolidates as the games are played (winning team takes losing team's land). Here's the starting map for 2019. Duke has the smallest area by population and third smallest (ahead of only Iona and St. John's) by land area and number of counties - only means there's a lot of land out there for the taking.

    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Is Duke the smallest starting territory? Are there any teams with no​ counties due to their proximity to multiple other local schools?

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    Is St. Mary's really closer to Hawaii than UC Irvine? Seems counter-intuitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahoo2000 View Post
    Is St. Mary's really closer to Hawaii than UC Irvine? Seems counter-intuitive.
    By about 130 miles. Hawaii is actually more relatively west than south from the California coast, so the fact that St. Mary's starts so much further west makes the difference.
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahoo2000 View Post
    Is St. Mary's really closer to Hawaii than UC Irvine? Seems counter-intuitive.
    PVAMU/Houston also feels strange to me. I suspect it would make more sense if I bothered to understand great circle distance (which is used to calculate who "owns" each county) fully which is probably the cause for the "weirdness".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acymetric View Post
    PVAMU/Houston also feels strange to me. I suspect it would make more sense if I bothered to understand great circle distance (which is used to calculate who "owns" each county) fully which is probably the cause for the "weirdness".
    Great Circle distance is just as the crow flies, but accounting for the curve of the earth.
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfrduke View Post
    Great Circle distance is just as the crow flies, but accounting for the curve of the earth.
    Now that I've actually bothered to see where PVAMU is located on a map that one makes more sense now. Seeing the island of red at the southern tip just felt weird at first but of course it is because it is further west (towards Houston).

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    I'm surprised the NCCU gets more territory than Duke. But, if they are taking area away from unc, I'm ok with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukieInKansas View Post
    I'm surprised the NCCU gets more territory than Duke. But, if they are taking area away from unc, I'm ok with that.
    I'm surprised the cheats don't own at least some property in the 48169 zip code.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan
    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    I'm surprised the cheats don't own at least some property in the 48169 zip code.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan
    Where in Hell is the 48169 zip code?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    Where in Hell is the 48169 zip code?
    Yes.

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    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukieInKansas View Post
    I'm surprised the NCCU gets more territory than Duke. But, if they are taking area away from unc, I'm ok with that.
    such is the problem when you're sandwiched between two other schools.

    Is duke the only school which doesn't control the land in which it exists (or more generally, are duke and NCCU the only schools which come from the same county?)
    April 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by uh_no View Post
    such is the problem when you're sandwiched between two other schools.

    Is duke the only school which doesn't control the land in which it exists (or more generally, are duke and NCCU the only schools which come from the same county?)
    UNC does not own Orange County - Cameron is slightly closer to its center than the Dean Dome.
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfrduke View Post
    UNC does not own Orange County ...
    I believe whoever bought the right to collect PJ Hairston's unpaid parking tickets actually owns Orange County -- or at least has the most money on paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uh_no View Post
    such is the problem when you're sandwiched between two other schools.

    Is duke the only school which doesn't control the land in which it exists (or more generally, are duke and NCCU the only schools which come from the same county?)
    Also, Temple and Villanova are both in Philadelphia County, and Temple controls that one.
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfrduke View Post
    Also, Temple and Villanova are both in Philadelphia County, and Temple controls that one.
    Minor clarification: Villanova is in suburban Delaware County, about 5 miles outside the Philly city limits, and is the only one of the Big Five (six if you count Drexel, also D-1) not located within the city proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk View Post
    Minor clarification: Villanova is in suburban Delaware County, about 5 miles outside the Philly city limits, and is the only one of the Big Five (six if you count Drexel, also D-1) not located within the city proper.
    Ah yes, right you are. Last year when the Pavilion was under construction and they played all home games in the Wells Fargo Center, I had them in mind as a truly in-Philadelphia team. But since they were back in the Pavilion as their main home* this season, they moved back out of the county.

    *11 home games at the Pavilion vs. 5 at Wells Fargo
    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk View Post
    Minor clarification: Villanova is in suburban Delaware County, about 5 miles outside the Philly city limits, and is the only one of the Big Five (six if you count Drexel, also D-1) not located within the city proper.
    You are correct about this though I think St Joe’s is split fairly evenly between Philly and Lower Merion, which is Montgomery County. I think the Philly side is considered the heart of campus so it is considered a Philly school. And I think the basketball arena is in Philly but I’m not sure. All of this is moot this year but who can resist a discussion of Philly geography?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk View Post
    Minor clarification: Villanova is in suburban Delaware County, about 5 miles outside the Philly city limits, and is the only one of the Big Five (six if you count Drexel, also D-1) not located within the city proper.
    You rarely hear the word "proper" used in reference to Philadelphia, and never correctly.

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    Fairleigh extends into the Texas prairie

    Just be you. You is enough. - K, 4/5/10, 0:13.8 to play, 60-59 Duke.

    You're all jealous hypocrites. - Titus on Laettner

    You see those guys? Animals. They're animals. - SIU Coach Chris Lowery, on Duke

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