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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDevil16 View Post
    Looks like a 3* WR/TE committed. No real good offers but hes 66
    Man, I remember when 2-stars was really good.
    Sage Grouse

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    'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    BangBang DukeGang. Sound the alarm. Duke receives a commitment from an offensive tackle - 6'5"' 285 lbs - from Texas with many P5 offers. I can't link an article right now. Bob Green?

    Welcome to Duke big guy! Love the hogs.
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDevil16 View Post
    Looks like a 3* WR/TE committed. No real good offers but hes 66
    I have to say, Guess the Random High School Football Player is the weirdest game we play on DBR.

  3. #83
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    Welcome to Duke football Cole Finney from Massachusetts.

    https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Co...ruitInterests/
    "This is the best of all possible worlds."
    Dr. Pangloss - Candide

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    Welcome to Duke football Cole Finney from Massachusetts.

    https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Co...ruitInterests/
    Looks like he was recruited by most of the Ivy league. He was smart enough to pick Duke! Welcome! LGD GTHc!
    Ozzie, your paradigm of optimism!

    Go To Hell carolina, Go To Hell!
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  5. #85
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    247 article on the commitment.

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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    247 article on the commitment.

    https://t.co/sYRpm2uCKk
    Thanks for the link!

    This Cole Finney quote is noteworthy:

    "Duke has the unique combination of big time football and a top tier education. They also care about how you do after you graduate, and they set you up not just for a career in the NFL, but also to be very successful in whatever field you choose. All of this really stuck out to me because you dont see it in every program."
    Bob Green
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  7. #87
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    I continue to wish we recruited more heavily in the Northeast, specifically the NJ and PA areas where Duke's reputation is well known, we have recruited well in previous decades, and there is a plethora of talent at good academic high schools (lots of very strong parochial schools among others)...

  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    I continue to wish we recruited more heavily in the Northeast, specifically the NJ and PA areas where Duke's reputation is well known, we have recruited well in previous decades, and there is a plethora of talent at good academic high schools (lots of very strong parochial schools among others)...
    True, if we ever want to take the next step, we need to recruit nationally, targeting all 4+ star recruits with strong academics. The local/regional focus Cut is fond of has a ceiling.
    Duke 5 - UNC 4*

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by duke09hms View Post
    True, if we ever want to take the next step, we need to recruit nationally, targeting all 4+ star recruits with strong academics. The local/regional focus Cut is fond of has a ceiling.
    How much of this is philosophy and how much is recruiting budget? I doubt Duke funds football recruiting to a point where they can recruit all over the country each year.

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxAMillion View Post
    How much of this is philosophy and how much is recruiting budget? I doubt Duke funds football recruiting to a point where they can recruit all over the country each year.
    The recruiting budget is fine...they recruit some in California...getting to NJ or PA is no more difficult than getting to Florida or much of Georgia, seemingly our preferred territory. Yes, there are lots of talented players there, but I think we shortchange our academic allure by failing to look to NJ and PA.

  11. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwom View Post
    The recruiting budget is fine...they recruit some in California...getting to NJ or PA is no more difficult than getting to Florida or much of Georgia, seemingly our preferred territory. Yes, there are lots of talented players there, but I think we shortchange our academic allure by failing to look to NJ and PA.
    Distance doesn't matter too much. You have to get to the airport wa-a-a-y early, so going anywhere is about the same time. The airlines charge a fortune for even the shortest flight, so air fare doesn't matter so much.

    What does matter is connections and knowledge -- knowledge in the press and among coaches and players that Duke is actively recruiting an area and a track record of players going to Duke and being successful. Knowing the coaches is possibly the most important -- if you are in a sales role, it is wonderful if the phone rings...
    Sage Grouse

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    'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013

  12. #92
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    ^ agreed, but we need coaches who know other territories which have been fruitful for Duke in the past...at the time being, as much as it pains me to say it, we are stuck in a bit of a mediocrity rut when it comes to recruiting...yes yes yes, way better than 15 years ago, but we're not getting the talent right now to "compete for championships" which is Cut's stated goal...I just think we can do better. There is a reason why we lag almost everyone else when it comes to NFL players.

  13. #93
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    Stars don't want to play in half empty stadiums. I know, I know. Not exactly rocket science.
    "This is the best of all possible worlds."
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  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by chrishoke View Post
    Stars don't want to play in half empty stadiums. I know, I know. Not exactly rocket science.
    This is true, but falling attendance has been an issue for probably 75% of D1 for a long time. UVA, just last year, was getting about 32 K in 65 K Scott Stadium. The way that UVA finished last year--they'll start getting people in the seats with the way that they're winning. Duke won 10 games in 2013 when everyone had Duke pegged for last place. Won 9 the following year. Attendance was decent but not great. You have to win home games when the Wade is over 30 K or so (like VT or Miami) and not come out flat. Just the way it is.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by devilirium View Post
    This is true, but falling attendance has been an issue for probably 75% of D1 for a long time. s.

    That's not Duke's problem. Duke's problem is that attendance stunk even as college football attendance was surging in the 80s and 90s. Duke is a 30 thousand fan football school, and they should have right-sized Wade instead of building the gigantic pressbox that ate the program.
    Don't waste your time on House of Cards S6!
    -We found out Frank was critical to making anyone else in the show interesting...not a surprise...

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    That's not Duke's problem. Duke's problem is that attendance stunk even as college football attendance was surging in the 80s and 90s. Duke is a 30 thousand fan football school, and they should have right-sized Wade instead of building the gigantic pressbox that ate the program.
    Oh, I agree with the attendance part, but the product post 94 thru 2010 was a complete joke. The patient was dead. Who was going to show up for that? Small wonder there were poetry readings at half of one game. Re: the press box, Duke had to make that investment-- Have you seen what those suites go for? They practically make up for the lackluster attendance when Duke isn't playing VT, Clemson, Miami, or UNC at home. Moreover, Duke needed the additional space (larger media capability, conferencing, newer press box needed, etc) . The old press box had to go. Also, it IS Duke's problem when they don't capitalize on a good home crowd, and far too often that's been the case. Start off 3-0 or 4-0 and look completely unprepared or worse drop 2 scores in the first 5 minutes and piss away a game vs VT. That's very much in their control. When you don't sufficiently market to your base (which Duke doesn't and used to do with the summer speaking circuit) then you're really relying on team performance as impetus for showing up. That's tricky when few remember how successful Duke was in the 40's, 50's, and early 60's.

  17. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeforeCoachK View Post
    That's not Duke's problem. Duke's problem is that attendance stunk even as college football attendance was surging in the 80s and 90s. Duke is a 30 thousand fan football school, and they should have right-sized Wade instead of building the gigantic pressbox that ate the program.
    Please help me find that gigantic pressbox. The one I'm in is about the same size as the old one, only with worst site lines.

  18. #98
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    I'm gonna jump over to the Wallace Wade attendance thread and start talking about recruiting.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

  19. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Please help me find that gigantic pressbox. The one I'm in is about the same size as the old one, only with worst site lines.
    Er, the "pressbox" tends to refer to the entire building, at least colloquially, even though certainly there is more going on inside. It doesn't just refer to the specific room you are in as a member of the press.

    The new building is definitely larger than the old one.

    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    I'm gonna jump over to the Wallace Wade attendance thread and start talking about recruiting.
    Should we start a conversation about professional fan bases in the lacrosse thread?

  20. #100
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    This is what happens when not much football recruiting info is available. As usual, we know little, we will continue to know little.

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