Originally Posted by
uh_no
with Duke and UNC winning, the minimum record to win the regular season is now 13-5. This means Louisville is eliminated from contention, and the top 3 are the only ones who can yet win the ACC outright.
In terms of the 1 seed, obviously the top 3 are in the mix.
VT is ALSO still in the mix. They need to win out, hope duke's lone remaining win comes across UNC, and hope that UVA loses out. VT at that point would split the title with Duke, and would hold the tiebreaker, getting the 1 seed.
FSU is NOT in the mix for the 1 seed as they lose the tiebreaker to all the top teams and cannot be in a tiebreaker scenario with VT as well as those teams.
Syracuse IS in the mix. Were they to win out, they would be 13-5. If UNC were to beat duke, they would have the tiebreaker over UNC. If Duke were to beat UNC, then it would go to record over the second place teams, which Syracuse would win as they'd have an undefeated record against UVA and UNC. There are some nutso scenarios where someone ELSE is in the mix for second place, but i won't enumerate them here.
So:
control destiny for 1 seed: Duke
Control destiny for regular season: Duke, UVA, UNC
In contention to win outright: duke, UVA, UNc
control destiny to win outright: no-one
Still can grasp a share for reglar season: Duke, UVA, UNC, VT, Syracuse, FSU
Still can get the 1 seed: Duke, UVA, UNC, VT, Syracuse
Despite popular belief, duke is STILL not guaranteed a double Bye.
Consider:
syracuse wins out: 13-5
VT wins out: 13-5
uva wins 1 more game against anyone: 13+
UNC beats duke: 13+
(Note: FSU could win out instead of VT and the result is the same)
Duke needs 1 more win to clinch the double bye. By the same logic, NOBODY has yet clinched a double bye as there are still 6 teams in contention to reach 13 wins, and only a strong guarantee that one of them will (duke or UNC)