2020 Presidential Election

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

There’s an implicit assumption that because those “little creeps” are young, they’re Democrats. If gamer gate and some of the online deep fake stuff is any indication, the gamer/tech vote may trend other directions. The only data I’ve been able to find is below, which does suggest a sizable population of conservative gamers...that really shouldn’t be a surprise.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/us-gamers-political-views-detailed-in-new-study/1100-6432027/


Note that this is a 2015 survey so doesn’t reflect Trump.

Well, the article I linked had Biden referring to game "developers" as "little creeps." Not sure that changes the demographic very much, but he isn't referring specifically to gamers. Just ostracizing them.

[bundabergdevil]

Well, the article I linked had Biden referring to game "developers" as "little creeps." Not sure that changes the demographic very much, but he isn't referring specifically to gamers. Just ostracizing them.

Here’s a more recent set of surveys on the Silicon Valley tech community. To your point, not a perfect match with Biden’s game developer target. Interesting nonetheless.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90313045/politics-are-tearing-tech-companies-apart-says-new-survey

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Here’s a more recent set of surveys on the Silicon Valley tech community. To your point, not a perfect match with Biden’s game developer target. Interesting nonetheless.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90313045/politics-are-tearing-tech-companies-apart-says-new-survey

I suspect Biden's comments are pulling him further and further from younger voters. Not sure if he's that tone deaf, or if it's a calculated maneuver, recognizing how young people are unlikely to vote.

[dudog84]

2nd straight poll with Biden +6 in Iowa. Two weeks and one day away, people are having to move off the fence. And they appear to be falling on Biden's side of that fence.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

[bundabergdevil]

Some good - and a little bit surprising - news for Trump. Approval hits record high among farmers:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fa...oll-2020-01-19

[CameronBornAndBred]

I suspect Biden's comments are pulling him further and further from younger voters. Not sure if he's that tone deaf, or if it's a calculated maneuver, recognizing how young people are unlikely to vote.

While historically over the long haul, that statement has been accurate, there has been an increasing uptick in youth voting. And of late, the folks in Britain have been a bit of a bellwether for our own elections; they have had record turnout of younger voters in the last couple elections.
In the US in 2018, voters in the 18-29 range turned out by an increase of 188% from 2014. Those are for mid-terms, where of course turnout is less than for Presidential election years, so you can bet they will be turning out for 2020 as well.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...m-2018/575092/

[Acymetric]

There’s an implicit assumption that because those “little creeps” are young, they’re Democrats. If gamer gate and some of the online deep fake stuff is any indication, the gamer/tech vote may trend other directions. The only data I’ve been able to find is below, which does suggest a sizable population of conservative gamers...that really shouldn’t be a surprise.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/us.../1100-6432027/


Note that this is a 2015 survey so doesn’t reflect Trump.

"Gamers" is probably overly broad as term to really be useful here, any more than "readers" or "runners" (or essentially any other hobby) in terms of political lean. A lot of young people play/played video games, though, and video games were a significant part of the lives of people that are in their late 30s now.

[sagegrouse]

I found the NYT dual endorsement of Warren and Klobuchar fascinating. Not surprised that they chose Warren as the flag bearer for the progressive version of the party but very surprised they chose Klobuchar as the mainstream version of the party and also surprised that they went “IDK *shrug*” as to whether progressive vs mainstream was the right approach given the differences between the two.

I agree with the New York Times's approach in endorsing TWO candidates for the Democratic nomination. And, in that same light, I am going to endorse both the Chiefs and the 49ers in the Super Bowl.

Kindly,
Sage Grouse
'Upon reading her bio, I discovered her dad was a sports columnists who tended to drink a bit too much. He should be posting here on the main Board'

[dudog84]

Some good - and a little bit surprising - news for Trump. Approval hits record high among farmers:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fa...oll-2020-01-19

Go figure. Farm bankruptcies up 24%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tPh-CYiNfMOBcc

[budwom]

Go figure. Farm bankruptcies up 24%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tPh-CYiNfMOBcc

There is SOME highly skeptical optimism about the new trade deal with China in which the Chinese will ostensibly buy huge amounts of soybeans and pork...hence the uptick...BusinessWeek had a good article on this...farmers have taken a beating the past couple of years..

[bundabergdevil]

Go figure. Farm bankruptcies up 24%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tPh-CYiNfMOBcc

There is SOME highly skeptical optimism about the new trade deal with China in which the Chinese will ostensibly buy huge amounts of soybeans and pork...hence the uptick...BusinessWeek had a good article on this...farmers have taken a beating the past couple of years..

In the first year or so of Trump's term, ag was second fiddle to domestic manufacturing concerns in the trade discussions. From what I understand, Sonny Perdue had to go in with a map of farming-heavy areas mapped to Trump win % to get the President to realize the risk of ignoring farmers. It lit a fire under Trump and helped get the farmer direct payments authorized. Shoring up the rural/farming vote is also key Trump's re-election strategy and he's made it a point to hit the major ag conventions for keynotes on the regular. He's touting the new trade deals at the American Farm Bureau convention in Austin this week. The trade deals are being met with mixed reviews from the major farming orgs. To be fair, this is essentially the reaction to ANY trade deal. The Trump administration believes it can turn Minnesota red on the back of farmers/rural voters as a backstop in case he loses other states in November.

I agree it's somewhat surprising considering the actual economics of farming right now, the impact of the trade war on rural economics, and the fact that several Republicans have essentially told farmers to suck it up.

[dudog84]

There is SOME highly skeptical optimism about the new trade deal with China in which the Chinese will ostensibly buy huge amounts of soybeans and pork...hence the uptick...BusinessWeek had a good article on this...farmers have taken a beating the past couple of years..

Obviously a bit late for a bunch of people. I'm sure some big corporations got some bargains on land and equipment.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

In the first year or so of Trump's term, ag was second fiddle to domestic manufacturing concerns in the trade discussions. From what I understand, Sonny Perdue had to go in with a map of farming-heavy areas mapped to Trump win % to get the President to realize the risk of ignoring farmers. It lit a fire under Trump and helped get the farmer direct payments authorized. Shoring up the rural/farming vote is also key Trump's re-election strategy and he's made it a point to hit the major ag conventions for keynotes on the regular. He's touting the new trade deals at the American Farm Bureau convention in Austin this week. The trade deals are being met with mixed reviews from the major farming orgs. To be fair, this is essentially the reaction to ANY trade deal. The Trump administration believes it can turn Minnesota red on the back of farmers/rural voters as a backstop in case he loses other states in November.

I agree it's somewhat surprising considering the actual economics of farming right now, the impact of the trade war on rural economics, and the fact that several Republicans have essentially told farmers to suck it up.

Yet Bernie gets crucified for being a socialist - Americans throw around labels without having any clue what they mean...

[dudog84]

Yet Bernie gets crucified for being a socialist - Americans throw around labels without having any clue what they mean...

Hold it...are you saying Americans can be convinced to vote against their best interests by manipulating labels?

[bundabergdevil]

Yet Bernie gets crucified for being a socialist - Americans throw around labels without having any clue what they mean...

Not to be a stickler but Bernie is a Democratic Socialist, which is different than a Socialist.

The U.S. already has a number of government institutions and programs and has deployed a number of strategies that would fall under these terms but those conversations haven’t been popular with the mods so I’ll leave it at that.

[OldPhiKap]

Inauguration Day is one year from today.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Inauguration Day is one year from today.

And Mayor Pete’s birthday was yesterday so his correct name in all style guides can be changed from “37-year old Pete Buttigieg” to “38-year old Pete Buttigieg”.

[chris13]

Yet Bernie gets crucified for being a socialist - Americans throw around labels without having any clue what they mean...

Major Major's father was a sober God-fearing man whose idea of a good joke was to lie about his age. He was a long-limbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism. He advocated thrift and hard work and disapproved of loose women who turned him down.

—- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

[OldPhiKap]

Major Major's father was a sober God-fearing man whose idea of a good joke was to lie about his age. He was a long-limbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism. He advocated thrift and hard work and disapproved of loose women who turned him down.

—- Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Someone better tag SnowdensCold

[bundabergdevil]

Biden's obviously capable of gaffes but he's also plenty capable of generating positive viral moments like this selfie with an elevator operator that's making the interweb rounds...

Biden's strength as a politician have always been his accessibility and every-man oratorical style. He's in pretty stark contrast to Obama and Clinton in this regard, both of whom were knocked by some for their perceived arrogance. Obama was a strong retail politician but also had a penchant for professorial speeches and, of course, he got caught with the "clinging to guns and bibles" comment that reaffirmed what a lot of rural voters think liberals think about them.