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  1. #4661
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSurprise View Post
    At least with all this impeachment stuff maybe a few folks have learned a little Latin
    Quote Originally Posted by Reddevil View Post
    Yeah, my generation learned it from Hannibal Lecter, but you've got to start somewhere.
    When I was a kid, Latin was still a live language.
    "We're only tourists in this life
    Only tourists but the view is nice"

    -- David Byrne

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    When I was a kid, Latin was still a live language.
    My Latin teacher had the appropriate name of Miss Early. Like you, it was a live language then.

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    Just writing "Romans go home!" is harder than you think.
    "We're only tourists in this life
    Only tourists but the view is nice"

    -- David Byrne

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    alteran is offline All-American, Honorable Mention
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey View Post
    Totally screwed or committed to socialism.
    Or underpaid and having to make hard choices.

    Most are not socialists, no matter how much some groups are trying to meme this into existence.

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    alteran is offline All-American, Honorable Mention
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey View Post
    Exactly! Why doesn’t everyone immediately realize you cannot beat a guaranteed 150% return?
    I think your observations about the human condition are valid. Unfortunately, this is what people do.

    And they’re going to retire one day. I’m not sure the country is ready for what that means.

    My fear is that it may come down to something more serious than just clucking about how foolish so many people are about investment optimization, retirement strategy, and economic literacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    Just writing "Romans go home!" is harder than you think.
    "Romani ite domum", not "Romanes eunt domus" as in Life of Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappan Zee Devil View Post
    "Romani ite domum", not "Romanes eunt domus" as in Life of Brian
    Yeah, but they were translating into British English and not American English.
    "We're only tourists in this life
    Only tourists but the view is nice"

    -- David Byrne

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    I think it's been mentioned before, but while clearly it's a theoretical no brainer to take advantage of the free money of 401k employer contributions, I am very well aware that a very large portion of the population (and NOT just "poor" people) live paycheck to paycheck...when you have a mortgage, car payment, student loans (and maybe even kids or medical bills) a lot of folks have to survive week to week. Yes, many may be making some poor choices as well (e.g. drop the four bucks a cup Starbucks habit) but there are valid reasons why SOME people truly have trouble taking proper advantage of benefits.

    Another stat comes to mind: I believe 40% of Americans have no savings whatsoever...according to this article, 57% (!) of Americans have less than a thousand bucks in savings. Sobering.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/13/how-...-accounts.html

    The takeaway: pass on the nachos with the woeful yellow sauce at WW this weekend...

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    Bloomberg is officially in the race.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Bloomberg is officially in the race.
    He is entering the Alabama primary, which has a deadline of tomorrow to register. So he is putting a toe in the water. His general policy was to stay out of Biden's way, so I am very curious if they have had any conversations. He could make things very interesting, but also makes a cluttered field even more cluttered. As a New Yorker who works in finance I have very strong opinions about his candidacy but I will keep them to myself.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/u...gtype=Homepage

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    Yeah, but they were translating into British English and not American English.
    Nortius Maximus his name was. Hmm. Promised me the known world he did. I was to be taken to Rome, House by the Forum. Slaves. Asses' milk. As much gold as I could eat. Then, he, having his way with me had... voom! Like a rat out of an aqueduct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyNotCrazie View Post
    He is entering the Alabama primary, which has a deadline of tomorrow to register. So he is putting a toe in the water. His general policy was to stay out of Biden's way, so I am very curious if they have had any conversations. He could make things very interesting, but also makes a cluttered field even more cluttered. As a New Yorker who works in finance I have very strong opinions about his candidacy but I will keep them to myself.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/u...gtype=Homepage
    I suppose there isn't any polling on him yet. I know he has name recognition, but I just don't see him picking up that much support. Could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acymetric View Post
    I suppose there isn't any polling on him yet. I know he has name recognition, but I just don't see him picking up that much support. Could be wrong.
    Since we're on a Monty Python kick, And Now For Something Completely Different...

    A New York businessman. What could go wrong?

    Can't we at least try somebody from Chicago, L.A., or even Cheyenne?
    Last edited by dudog84; 11-07-2019 at 06:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyNotCrazie View Post
    He is entering the Alabama primary, which has a deadline of tomorrow to register. So he is putting a toe in the water. His general policy was to stay out of Biden's way, so I am very curious if they have had any conversations. He could make things very interesting, but also makes a cluttered field even more cluttered. As a New Yorker who works in finance I have very strong opinions about his candidacy but I will keep them to myself.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/u...gtype=Homepage
    I don't think he gets the Democratic nomination but he can sabotage the election for the Dems if he runs as a 3rd party candidate, which I think he would consider if Warren is the nominee. Bloomberg's made his opinions about Warren's "billionaire tax proposal" well known and Bloomberg.com has run op-eds critical of her. On the other hand, this just may be what a female friend of mine who works in the Colorado Governor's office texted me this afteroon, "male white savior complex". She's somewhat militant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alteran View Post
    Or underpaid and having to make hard choices.
    Been there, done that. IMO, the early choices are the most critical. The magic of compounding evaporates with age.

    Quote Originally Posted by alteran
    I think your observations about the human condition are valid. Unfortunately, this is what people do.

    And they’re going to retire one day. I’m not sure the country is ready for what that means.

    My fear is that it may come down to something more serious than just clucking about how foolish so many people are about investment optimization, retirement strategy, and economic literacy.
    It certainly will if people merely cluck. I fear the USA in 2070 may look a lot like Greece in 2020. China does not share my fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvis14 View Post
    My first thoughts were the following two questions: Do we really need all 10? At this point, couldn't we just go with that top 5?

    Leaving those as rhetorical, do you all think that having such a large field works against the Dems at this point? I know 3 years ago...lots of GOP hopefuls, etc but I think the Hillary factor prevented the large field from being an issue (meaning HC was not good at elections and was not super electable because of all her baggage - real and propaganda). Of course DT's baggage this time...
    No, there are still relevant candidates with less support. That is -- if you believe the Dems will never nominate Warren or Sanders and Biden fades. On the moderate side, that pushes forward Klobuchar, Harris and Buttigieg and some lesser lights. And, I am hugely skeptical of Buttigieg as a potential nominee. Could yet be a wide open race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    No, there are still relevant candidates with less support. That is -- if you believe the Dems will never nominate Warren or Sanders and Biden fades. On the moderate side, that pushes forward Klobuchar, Harris and Buttigieg and some lesser lights. And, I am hugely skeptical of Buttigieg as a potential nominee. Could yet be a wide open race.
    And, apropos of Sage's insight, Michael Bloomberg rides to the sound of the guns. Uhh...after deciding to sit it all out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Bloomberg is officially in the race.
    ...about four years late.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Bloomberg is officially in the race.
    I didn't realize the clown car had anymore room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudog84 View Post
    What the heck is going on at Rasmussen? They do a daily weekday poll of presidential approval, and have consistently shown Trump about 10 points better than the average of all the other polls. They often show Trump with a positive rating. This is their polling over the last 10 days:

    10/16 +1
    10/17 -3
    10/18 -5
    10/21 -8
    10/22 -7
    10/23 -9
    10/24 -11
    10/25 -13

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

    Today's report is worse than any of the other polls, a complete flip-flop. If I was conspiracy-minded, I'd think the R powers-that-be are sending Trump a message.
    The world (of polling) has returned to normal. Rasmussen has Trump approval at +1.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

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