2020 Presidential Election

[Tripping William]

Y’all act as if this is Donny’s first rodeo:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...273346560?s=21

[bundabergdevil]

Kinda makes me wonder if things would be different if there were significant R majorities in Congress, say 60-40 in the Senate and 240-195 in the House.

Edit for my curiosity: In January 1969, Ds held the Senate 57-43 and the House 243-192 . Ah, I can still remember the charge to keep Richard Nixon from being seated as President. Good times.

That's a troubling thought experiment. Power is a funny thing. I think it would be very ugly inside in the halls of Congress and out in the streets.

[bundabergdevil]

This isn't a funny time but Dan Rather's tweet about the Trump audio made me laugh.

The audio of Trump with the Georgia secretary of state. Wow. It’s like telling the Nixon tapes to “hold my beer.”

[bundabergdevil]

Meanwhile, the headline on FoxNews is "Nervous Nancy"...

If you already agree with Trump, you agree with what he's saying and doing in that tape. "They", "Them", "They're"...all the ominous pronouns for the liberal monster in the dark, pulling the levers of power, cheating at every turn, tearing down America brick by brick.

I drove by a house in the country yesterday with a 6 x 6 sign erected in the front yard. It read: "NO Masks Allowed Beyond This Point. ALL Are Welcome."

Different planets.

FoxNews...still leading with Nancy.

[dudog84]

That's a troubling thought experiment. Power is a funny thing. I think it would be very ugly inside in the halls of Congress and out in the streets.

The Doobies were already takin' it to the streets over 40 years ago. (thought a little music might soothe our souls for a bit in these times)

[dudog84]

After that brief respite, back to your regularly scheduled consternation.

Trump to give Presidential Medal of Freedom to Devin Nunes. Does the cow get one too?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...glN?li=BBnb7Kz

[Tripping William]

After that brief respite, back to your regularly scheduled consternation.

Trump to give Presidential Medal of Freedom to Devin Nunes. Does the cow get one too?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...glN?li=BBnb7Kz

Appears Gym Jordan will get the same award.

[bundabergdevil]

All 10 living former defense secretaries say some things.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

[Tripping William]

All 10 living former defense secretaries say some things.

The letter -- signed by Dick Cheney, James Mattis, Mark Esper, Leon Panetta, Donald Rumsfeld, William Cohen, Chuck Hagel, Robert Gates, William Perry and Ashton Carter -- amounts to a remarkable show of force against Trump's subversion efforts just days before Congress is set to count Electoral College votes.

"Our elections have occurred. Recounts and audits have been conducted. Appropriate challenges have been addressed by the courts. Governors have certified the results. And the electoral college has voted. The time for questioning the results has passed; the time for the formal counting of the electoral college votes, as prescribed in the Constitution and statute, has arrived," the group wrote.

And why, pray tell, would they feel the need to publish this statement? What possibly could have prompted it? Perhaps a perfect phone call?

[JasonEvans]

Seven (7!!!!!) House Republicans. Yippee!

Edit for context: That's out of 211.

The mightiest river begins with a trickle. I think we should recognize any Republican willing to step up and be a voice of reason. I am not saying these 7 voices (and a few more who have begun speaking out — watch Adam Kitzinger’s interview on CNN tonight, strong stuff) absolve the rest of the GOP or anything like that. But our nation will heal faster if we have more and more members of the GOP who accept Biden as president and these initial voices are important toward achieving that goal.

[OldPhiKap]

And why, pray tell, would they feel the need to publish this statement? What possibly could have prompted it? Perhaps a perfect phone call?

I think it is because Congressional Republicans are the only group which have failed to honor their duties. State, local, and judicial officers all have by and large.

[SouthernDukie]

The mightiest river begins with a trickle. I think we should recognize any Republican willing to step up and be a voice of reason. I am not saying these 7 voices (and a few more who have begun speaking out — watch Adam Kitzinger’s interview on CNN tonight, strong stuff) absolve the rest of the GOP or anything like that. But our nation will heal faster if we have more and more members of the GOP who accept Biden as president and these initial voices are important toward achieving that goal.

That’s right, Jason. We should at least admire and support those that are taking a stand.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

That’s right, Jason. We should at least admire and support those that are taking a stand.

And not forget them when they need support in two years when facing a hostile primary from a Trump-endorsed candidate.

[SouthernDukie]

And not forget them when they need support in two years when facing a hostile primary from a Trump-endorsed candidate.

Exactly.

[JasonEvans]

watch Adam Kinzinger’s interview on CNN tonight, strong stuff

Here's a snippet where he says GOP Reps should stand up to Trump, even if it costs them their careers: https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/statu...02863780884480

And here is an early tweet after he read the Wash Post story: https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/sta...28522254880770

This is absolutely appalling. To every member of Congress considering objecting to the election results, you cannot- in light of this- do so with a clean conscience. #RestoreOurGOP

[Tripping William]

Here's a snippet where he says GOP Reps should stand up to Trump, even if it costs them their careers: https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/statu...02863780884480

And here is an early tweet after he read the Wash Post story: https://twitter.com/RepKinzinger/sta...28522254880770

It’s not like he shot someone on Fifth Avenue. So .... nice try, but no.

[dudog84]

The mightiest river begins with a trickle. I think we should recognize any Republican willing to step up and be a voice of reason. I am not saying these 7 voices (and a few more who have begun speaking out — watch Adam Kitzinger’s interview on CNN tonight, strong stuff) absolve the rest of the GOP or anything like that. But our nation will heal faster if we have more and more members of the GOP who accept Biden as president and these initial voices are important toward achieving that goal.

My post was not a dig at your tweet. It is disturbing that we consider a minimal show of spine (I mean, they could actually speak out against the others) by 3.3% of a certain caucus to be heartening in these times.

[Mike Corey]

Deeply concerned about the next 16 days.

[PackMan97]

Sigh... lets just continue to do our best, ok?

Here is some of the audio of Trump trying to persuade the Ga SoS to change vote totals.

I truly think the response to this should be non-partisan. It is what it is.

You can put lipstick on a pig all you want and it's still a pig. Reminds me a little bit of the first episode of "The Black Mirror".

[bundabergdevil]

So, I'll put the prediction out there that Trump will ultimately have to be escorted from the WH. I've been of the mind that he'd do ANYTHING in his power, legal or otherwise, to overturn the election results. He's done that. Earlier on, I did think he'd vacate the premises just before inauguration w/o engaging any formalities with Biden. That's almost a given.

But, I'm putting it out there for the DBR boards, he's going to get evicted --- and it will be after the clock has turned over to Biden's presidency and Trump still tries to issue presidential orders.