Duke Basketball Crazy/Insane/Interesting Statistics/Records

[niveklaen]

Zion also leads the nation in a couple other esoteric advanced stats:

BOX PLUS/MINUS (BPM): Zion currently leads the nation with 21.2

This stat is different from "real" plus/minus, but I don't know how it's calculated. It has both offensive and defensive components. The #2 player in the nation in this stat is Gonzaga's Brandon Clarke, with 18.8

To put Zion's performance into perspective, I went back 8 years (to 2010-11, as far back as I could find this stat) and assembled Duke's top 10 (at least 300 minutes):

2011 Kyrie Irving: 14.3
2018 Wendell Carter: 13.5
2013 Ryan Kelly: 11.3
2015 Marshall Plumlee: 11.3
2015 Jahlil Okafor: 10.9
2011 Ryan Kelly: 10.8
2013 Mason Plumlee: 10.7
2018 Marvin Bagley: 10.7
2011 Mason Plumlee: 10.5
2011 Javin DeLaurier: 10.5

So Zion's current BPM of 21.2 is basically 1.5x the best BPM in Duke's (recent) history.

Javin DeLaurier's current BPM of 14.4 would be on pace to set the Duke record, if not for his teammate Zion. Also not including their current teammates, Marques Bolden and Jack White would be tied for 3rd on the "all time" (9 year) list, with 12.5.


Anyway, since Zion is leading the nation in these two stats and on pace to shatter the Duke records in both stats by a significant amount, I thought it might be of interest in this thread.

2011 Javin?

[Kedsy]

2011 Javin?

Sorry, that should be 2018 Javin.

[JasonEvans]

2011 Javin?

Javin was secretrly given 5 years of redshirts buy the NCAA. Duke gets all the calls.

-Jason "Kedsy's stats on Zion are freaking unreal. It is entirely possible we are watching the greatest single season in Duke history... by a freshman... dwell on that for a moment" Evans

[Kedsy]

After the Syracuse game, here are selected players' block% and steal%:

block%
-------
Marques: 11.8% (still well ahead of Shelden Williams's Duke record of 10.6%)
Javin: 7.3%
Zion: 6.6%
Jack: 5.2%

steal%
-------
Cam: 4.3% (now behind Wojo's Duke record of 4.5%)
Zion: 3.9%
Tre: 3.7%
AOC: 3.6%
Javin: 3.4%

[Kedsy]

After Tre's 2 assist, 1 TO performance in five minutes against Syracuse, his a/to ratio is still 5.69:1

If Tre misses a lot of time, it will probably help him become Duke's single-season record holder in a/to ratio. Obviously, not the way we wanted it to happen, though.


ZION WATCH

Zion's nation-leading PER is now 41.6

Zion's nation-leading win shares per 40 is now .373

Zion's nation-leading box plus-minus is now 20.1

Zion is also #10 in the country in oRating, at 134.1


FWIW, Javin's BPM is now 13.8; Marques's BPM is now 11.8; and Jack's is now 10.9. If they all keep this up through the end of the season, the Duke single-season BPM top ten list would look like this:

2019 Zion Williamson: 20.1
2011 Kyrie Irving: 14.3
2019 Javin DeLaurier: 13.8
2018 Wendell Carter: 13.5
2019 Marques Bolden: 11.8
2013 Ryan Kelly: 11.3
2015 Marshall Plumlee: 11.3
2015 Jahlil Okafor: 10.9
2019 Jack White: 10.9
2011 Ryan Kelly: 10.8

[Kedsy]

Javin converted his only shot attempt against Syracuse, so he now has made 19 straight made FGs. That puts him in 2nd place on the Duke all-time list (Alaa Abdelnaby had 20 straight), and at least tied for 2nd place on the ACC all-time list (again behind Alaa's 20 straight).

[Tom B.]

The streak i have always found amazing, considering how hard an ACC road win can be. 23 straight ACC road wins. Ended at Virginia 2001.

I believe that streak was 24 games, not 23. Equivalent to three full seasons, dating back to a loss at UNC in 1998.

My other favorite insane Duke stat is Christian Laettner's FG and FT shooting percentages in NCAA Regional Final games (i.e., games in which a trip to the Final Four is on the line). Remember, he started in NCAA Regional Final games all four years he was at Duke.

His career FG% in NCAA Regional Final games is 91.2% (31 for 34).

His career FT% in NCAA Regional Final games is 91.9% (34 for 37).

Dude was just a bit clutch.

[Kedsy]

Javin converted his only shot attempt against Syracuse, so he now has made 19 straight made FGs. That puts him in 2nd place on the Duke all-time list (Alaa Abdelnaby had 20 straight), and at least tied for 2nd place on the ACC all-time list (again behind Alaa's 20 straight).

Javin finally missed a shot (in fact he missed two, his 5th and 6th misses of the season). Sadly, that left him one short of the ACC record (and the Duke record, too). Alas.

[johnb]

Javin finally missed a shot (in fact he missed two, his 5th and 6th misses of the season). Sadly, that left him one short of the ACC record (and the Duke record, too). Alas.

Or at least Alaa.

[jv001]

Javin finally missed a shot (in fact he missed two, his 5th and 6th misses of the season). Sadly, that left him one short of the ACC record (and the Duke record, too). Alas.

Javin, looked liked one of my golfing buddies stroking a 2 footer for a par. It looked like he let the pressure get to him. GoDuke!

[HereBeforeCoachK]

Javin, looked liked one of my golfing buddies stroking a 2 footer for a par. It looked like he let the pressure get to him. GoDuke!

Jav double bogeyed the next hole too

[Sir Stealth]

Would like to go back and see how many blocks Bolden actually had last night. Felt like he had more than the 4 credited to him in box score.

[Kedsy]

Would like to go back and see how many blocks Bolden actually had last night. Felt like he had more than the 4 credited to him in box score.

On that note, after the UVa and Pitt games, here are selected players' block% and steal%:

block%
-------
Marques: 11.0% (after Virginia, Marques's block% had dropped to 10.6%, but after those four blocks against Pitt, he's again ahead of Shelden Williams's Duke record of 10.6%)
Javin: 7.2%
Zion: 6.1%
Jack: 4.7%

steal%
-------
Cam: 4.1% (he's dropped further behind Wojo's Duke record of 4.5%)
Zion: 3.8%
Tre: 3.7%
AOC: 3.6%
Javin: 3.2%


ZION WATCH

Zion's nation-leading PER is now 41.8

Zion's nation-leading win shares per 40 is now .367

Zion's nation-leading box plus-minus is now 20.6

Zion is also #7 in the country in oRating, at 134.3

[CDu]

On that note, after the UVa and Pitt games, here are selected players' block% and steal%:

block%
-------
Marques: 11.0% (after Virginia, Marques's block% had dropped to 10.6%, but after those four blocks against Pitt, he's again ahead of Shelden Williams's Duke record of 10.6%)
Javin: 7.2%
Zion: 6.1%
Jack: 4.7%

steal%
-------
Cam: 4.1% (he's dropped further behind Wojo's Duke record of 4.5%)
Zion: 3.8%
Tre: 3.7%
AOC: 3.6%
Javin: 3.2%


ZION WATCH

Zion's nation-leading PER is now 41.8

Zion's nation-leading win shares per 40 is now .367

Zion's nation-leading box plus-minus is now 20.6

Zion is also #7 in the country in oRating, at 134.3

That last stat, taken in the context of how high his usage is, is just unbelievable. To be that efficient on that high a volume of possessions used is absurd.

[Kedsy]

After the Georgia Tech game, here are selected players' block% and steal%:

block%
-------
Marques: 10.8% (still ahead of Shelden Williams's Duke record of 10.6%)
Javin: 7.1%
Zion: 6.2%
Jack: 4.7%

steal%
-------
Cam: 4.3% (possibly catching up to Wojo's Duke record of 4.5%)
Zion: 3.8%
Tre: 3.6%
AOC: 3.5%
Javin: 3.2%


ZION WATCH

Zion's nation-leading PER is now 41.5

Zion's nation-leading win shares per 40 is now .365

Zion's nation-leading box plus-minus is now 20.4

Zion's oRating of 134.3 is now up to 5th in the country. His dRating of 82.4 is also 5th in the country.

[Kedsy]

After the Notre Dame game, Zion's nation-leading efficiency numbers got better:

Zion's nation-leading PER is now 42.4

Zion's nation-leading win shares per 40 is now .374

Zion's nation-leading box plus-minus is now 21.2

Zion's nation-leading eFG% is now 70.3%

Zion's oRating of 136.4 is now up to 3rd in the country. His dRating of 82.9 is 4th in the country.


This is not normal.

[UrinalCake]

A fun exercise while we wait for the next game... can you name this player whose statistical profile is somewhat similar to Zion's? He played three years in college, the following is from his junior year:

                 Minutes Points Rebounds FG%  Assists  Blocks  Steals
Zion Williamson  28.4    22.0   9.2      68.1 2.4      2.0     2.0
Player X         32.0    24.1   14.0     61.5 1.5      5.2     1.0

[pfrduke]

A fun exercise while we wait for the next game... can you name this player whose statistical profile is somewhat similar to Zion's? He played three years in college, the following is from his junior year:

                 Minutes Points Rebounds FG%  Assists  Blocks  Steals
Zion Williamson  28.4    22.0   9.2      68.1 2.4      2.0     2.0
Player X         32.0    24.1   14.0     61.5 1.5      5.2     1.0

Is that Shaq?

[robed deity]

Yes, and the fg pct edge is amazing.

[cato]

A fun exercise while we wait for the next game... can you name this player whose statistical profile is somewhat similar to Zion's? He played three years in college, the following is from his junior year:

                 Minutes Points Rebounds FG%  Assists  Blocks  Steals
Zion Williamson  28.4    22.0   9.2      68.1 2.4      2.0     2.0
Player X         32.0    24.1   14.0     61.5 1.5      5.2     1.0

Got it on my third guess. I had to look it up, so I will keep it to myself for a bit in case someone wants to guess without research.

Very interesting comparison.