MBB: Duke 78, Auburn 72 Post-Game Thread

[devildeac]

In the MOTM thread, Jason mentioned the 2004-2005 VT game where Dock had 6 steals. Who holds the steals record for Duke MBB for a single game and how many? I think both answers will surprise.

[sagegrouse]

Cherokee Parks with 10 on 3/11/94 vs Clemson

Source: https://dukereport.com/single-game-records/

Box score: http://goduke.statsgeek.com/basketba...ameid=19940311

Amazingly, no triple-double that game

Cherokee and Shelden, but Gminski rules the block statistics. The G-Man has six of the top 13 listings. Shelden has five, and the Chief and Battier one mention each.

BLOCKED SHOTS
Rk Name vs. Opponent, Date Blk
1. Cherokee Parks (Jr.) vs. Clemson, 3/11/1994 [t-10] 10
 Shelden Williams (Sr.) vs. Maryland, 1/11/2006 [t-10] 10
3. Mike Gminski (Fr.) at Davidson, 1/5/1977 9
Mike Gminski (So.) vs. NC State, 2/15/1978 9
Mike Gminski (Jr.) at Davidson, 1/2/1979 9
Mike Gminski (Sr.) vs. Wake Forest, 11/30/1979 9
Shelden Williams (Jr.) vs. Virginia, 1/16/2005 9
Shelden Williams (Sr.) vs. Davidson, 11/19/2005 9
9. Mike Gminski (Fr.) vs. Connecticut, 12/14/1976 8
Mike Gminski (Sr.) vs. Vermont, 12/28/1979 8
Shane Battier (Jr.) vs. Kansas, 3/19/2000 8
Shelden Williams (So.) vs. Wake Forest, 1/17/2004 8
Shelden Williams (Sr.) vs. Virginia, 1/28/2006 8

[devildeac]

Cherokee and Shelden, but Gminski rules the block statistics. The G-Man has six of the top 13 listings. Shelden has five, and the Chief and Battier one mention each.

BLOCKED SHOTS
Rk Name vs. Opponent, Date Blk
1. Cherokee Parks (Jr.) vs. Clemson, 3/11/1994 [t-10] 10
 Shelden Williams (Sr.) vs. Maryland, 1/11/2006 [t-10] 10
3. Mike Gminski (Fr.) at Davidson, 1/5/1977 9
Mike Gminski (So.) vs. NC State, 2/15/1978 9
Mike Gminski (Jr.) at Davidson, 1/2/1979 9
Mike Gminski (Sr.) vs. Wake Forest, 11/30/1979 9
Shelden Williams (Jr.) vs. Virginia, 1/16/2005 9
Shelden Williams (Sr.) vs. Davidson, 11/19/2005 9
9. Mike Gminski (Fr.) vs. Connecticut, 12/14/1976 8
Mike Gminski (Sr.) vs. Vermont, 12/28/1979 8
Shane Battier (Jr.) vs. Kansas, 3/19/2000 8
Shelden Williams (So.) vs. Wake Forest, 1/17/2004 8
Shelden Williams (Sr.) vs. Virginia, 1/28/2006 8

Ha! Looks like I can't even trust dukereport.com which I *guess* is some sort of semi-official Duke-related site.

[thewoosh31]

Did anyone else jump out of their seat and let out a cheer/squeal/giggle like I did when Ques blocked the shot, ran down the court, and finished the alley-oop?

I'm so happy for the kid, especially after all he's been through with injuries, maturation, and negative perceptions b/c he's an introvert by nature.

I think the last time I jumped out of my seat like that was in 2015 when Tyus hit the dagger 3 pointer in the NC game.

[OldPhiKap]

Did anyone else jump out of their seat and let out a cheer/squeal/giggle like I did when Ques blocked the shot, ran down the court, and finished the alley-oop?

I

Play of the game for me. That, and his jam-back rebound.

I wholly agree -- could not be happier for the kid.

He and K both talked about handling the negative stuff in the post-game press conference -- recommend it highly if you have not seen it yet. Mature.

[thewoosh31]

Play of the game for me. That, and his jam-back rebound.

I wholly agree -- could not be happier for the kid.

He and K both talked about handling the negative stuff in the post-game press conference -- recommend it highly if you have not seen it yet. Mature.

Indeed. It was the first thing I searched for (post game quotes) since I had heard that Ques and Tre were the ones interviewed. Love guys with character getting their due!

[jv001]

I usually agree with your take on things, but this is beyond a stretch. First, AOC and Jordan G combined for a total of 6 minutes. If the 8th man getting 6 minutes counts as having an 8-man rotation, we've completely changed the definition. Second, you can't combine two people into "a single man." There have been many, many games over the years where the 8th and 9th guys have combined to play 6+ minutes, but we've never thought Coach K played an 8-man rotation before.



Javin has fouled way too much so far this season. Beyond that, I completely disagree with your take. In both advanced stats and per minute stats, he leads the team in defensive rebounding (2nd behind Zion in rebounding overall) and is second on the team in steals (behind Cam). So the ball seems to stay in his hands in both those areas. He also has our best dRating, so I think he's using his speed, height, and athleticism pretty well on the defensive end of the floor. FWIW, he also leads the team in FG%, eFG%, and true shooting percentage, albeit on not very many shots.

If he suddenly brought his fouls under control and started playing 24 mpg, but did absolutely nothing else different, his stats would be 6.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2 spg, and almost a block a game, on 75% shooting and with great defense, and everyone would be talking about his Zoubekian turnaround.

Lest you think my last is a fanciful statement, I'd point out that after five games Javin has 8.8 fouls per 40 and after five games in 2009-10, Brian Zoubek had 9.6 fouls per 40.

I think other than the fouls, Javin's doing fine.

Thanks for the number on Javin. It got me thinking about Javin's career numbers. Here are a few:


ppg= 3.0, rpg= 3.6, bpg= .5, stls=.6, FT%= .542, FG%= .67%. Turnovers for career= 35, Fouls for career= 105.

Javin has averaged 11.3 mpg over his career. So, you are probably correct Javin could have a decent career if not for the foul troubles. I believe some of his foul troubles comes from not being in the right spot on defense and some silly fouls on defense and rebounds. He has the speed and hops to be a very good player but he doesn't stay on the court long enough to show what he's fully capable of. I think Coach K has his minutes per game about right. And if I'm reading godukestats correctly, I don't think Javin has ever been disqualified for fouls. I thought for sure he had fouled out of a game or two. GoDuke!

[MChambers]

In the MOTM thread, Jason mentioned the 2004-2005 VT game where Dock had 6 steals. Who holds the steals record for Duke MBB for a single game and how many? I think both answers will surprise.

I’d guess Grant or Shane, but for your clue about surprise. Mason? 8?

[OldPhiKap]

I’d guess Grant or Shane, but for your clue about surprise. Mason? 8?

Yeah, I'd guess Amaker or Battier but neither of those would surprise me. I'll go with 7.

If I was going with surprise, I'll throw out Dunleavy as a possibility.

[jv001]

Yeah, I'd guess Amaker or Battier but neither of those would surprise me. I'll go with 7.

If I was going with surprise, I'll throw out Dunleavy as a possibility.

I'll go with South Stokes great and Duke great, Kenny Dennard with 11. GoDuke!

[HereBeforeCoachK]

I'll go Laettner with 7 or 8

[devildeac]

I'll go with South Stokes great and Duke great, Kenny Dennard with 11. GoDuke!

That is indeed correct. Done without Mr. Google's assistance?

"Steals Kenny Dennard 11 2/3/79 Maryland"

https://dukereport.com/single-game-records/

Let's see if sage corrects this one, too.

[devildeac]

I’d guess Grant or Shane, but for your clue about surprise. Mason? 8?

Yeah, I'd guess Amaker or Battier but neither of those would surprise me. I'll go with 7.

If I was going with surprise, I'll throw out Dunleavy as a possibility.

See above. I'd never have guessed Dennard nor the #11.

[jv001]

That is indeed correct. Done without Mr. Google's assistance?

"Steals Kenny Dennard 11 2/3/79 Maryland"

https://dukereport.com/single-game-records/

Let's see if sage corrects this one, too.

Who is this Mr. Google fellow you refer to? Does he play for an ACC team? GoDuke and Happy Thanksgiving.

[devildeac]

Who is this Mr. Google fellow you refer to? Does he play for an ACC team? GoDuke and Happy Thanksgiving.

I thought so...

[jv001]

I thought so...

devildeac, you know my memory is not what it used to be. But Kenny went to South Stokes High School and that's where my best friend, Leroy Myers coached back in the day. Coach Myers told me some great stories about KD. The 1978 Duke team still remains one of my all time favorites. Kenny, Gene and G-Man formed a great front line. GoDuke!

[devildeac]

devildeac, you know my memory is not what it used to be. But Kenny went to South Stokes High School and that's where my best friend, Leroy Myers coached back in the day. Coach Myers told me some great stories about KD. The 1978 Duke team still remains one of my all time favorites. Kenny, Gene and G-Man formed a great front line. GoDuke!

I'd have never guessed it was Kenny D with that record with guys like Shane, Amaker, Hurley, King, Wojo and G. Hill as former NDPOY.

[Kedsy]

That is indeed correct. Done without Mr. Google's assistance?

"Steals Kenny Dennard 11 2/3/79 Maryland"

https://dukereport.com/single-game-records/

Let's see if sage corrects this one, too.

I was actually in attendance at that game. Sadly, I didn't remember Kenny Dennard had that many steals.