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    Zion mentioned in trial

    Wow. I hope there is no truth to this.

    https://www.aseaofblue.com/2018/10/1...rruption-trial

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    Here is the source.

    In a taped conversation that was not allowed into evidence today, Adidas' Merl Code and Kansas asst Kurtis Townsend discuss the recruitment of Zion Williamson, who wound up at Duke. In arguing for admission, a transcript was read by Code defense atty Mark Moore. (thread)
    Bold type is mine.

    link https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status...23887621578752
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    I mean, even assuming the sleazy sneaker exec Merl Code is telling the truth here on that tape as opposed to putting words in Zion's mouth in order to brag / signal to others that Code is an important guy to whom important recruits make important demands, there's no need to assume that (A) Zion made the same alleged demands to Duke via Nike and that (B) Duke acquiesced to Zion's demands, leading to his commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Here is the source.



    Bold type is mine.

    link https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status...23887621578752
    You canít unring a bell. Itís out there. The fact that it was irrelevant to this trial doesnít keep it from hurting Williamson and Duke even if Williamson says, as I expect, that he has no idea what the guy was talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallcity View Post
    You canít unring a bell. Itís out there. The fact that it was irrelevant to this trial doesnít keep it from hurting Williamson and Duke even if Williamson says, as I expect, that he has no idea what the guy was talking about.
    Explicate this, please. How exactly will Zion and Duke be hurt?

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    Pretty cool we got him for free. #blessed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublemaker View Post
    Explicate this, please. How exactly will Zion and Duke be hurt?
    Seems obvious to me. Williamson and K will be asked about it all season. It’s an annoyance at the least. Many sports writers will st least imply that Williamson and Duke are guilty. I can’t say how big a damage to reputation it will be but it will have some effect. K’s recent statement that he knows nothing of cheating in college BB isn’t playing so well already. We all know there’s been some degree of cheating. We just don’t know how widespread it has been. I hope Nike is clean but I’m far from certain of it.

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    K isnít a moron. Forget the moral aspect of it, K isnít going gubeba Guy $$ or benefits in the middle of all of these investigations

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    This sounds like a similar scenario to the one Oregon was associated with last week. An Adidas agent or exec claims that the school wants to pay money for a player. Thereís no proof that the school actually said this, it could just be the agent trying to up the price for the player. And thereís certainly no evidence that money actually changed hands. I hate that Zionís name has gotten dragged into this, but itís not really a shock considered we have recruited numerous top players every year. Iíll assume heís clean until I see proof otherwise (and hold the same attitude towards players from other schools).

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    I hope this isn't a case of the GM giving his MGR/HC the vote of confidence - then next week all hell breaks loose. I'm getting a little edgy about this entire process. Here's hoping there is nothing to be found.

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    Putting Duke and Coach K's reputation aside for just a second, if the program gave something improper to Zion in the midst of this entire scandal, it would be (to me) a new level of idiocy the likes of which I would not be able to ever understand.

    Now layering back in Duke and Coach K's reputation, it seems next to impossible that Duke did anything significantly improper.

    - Chillin

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    Was Capel out the door when Duke got Zion?

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    I hope we do all due diligence here quickly and ensure clearance with the NCAA so K doesnít feel obligated to hold him out of games.
    ďCoach said no 3s.Ē - Zion on The Block

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
    Was Capel out the door when Duke got Zion?
    I'd like to emphasize that Capel was not let go at Oklahoma because he had personally broken NCAA rules. Capel's firing was the result of an assistant trying to help a recruit with moving costs to OU. Capel was left in the dark.

    But if you want to know the real reason Capel was let go, look no further than the former OU head coach, Kelvin Sampson, who had been investigated for breaking some NCAA recruitment rules. As a result, OU basketball ended up in the NCAA crosshairs for the better part of three years.

    Oklahoma fired Capel, because they had committed to a zero-tolerance type policy. Firing Capel was a way of showing the NCAA that they were committed to steer clear of any rules violations. In my opinion, Capel was punished for Kelvin Sampson's legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duke4ever19 View Post
    I'd like to emphasize that Capel was not let go at Oklahoma because he had personally broken NCAA rules. Capel's firing was the result of an assistant trying to help a recruit with moving costs to OU. Capel was left in the dark. [...] In my opinion, Capel was punished for Kelvin Sampson's legacy.
    Capel was mostly let go because after one Elite 8 appearance (with Mr. Griffin) and a large contract extension, Capel had back-to-back losing seasons at OK with no major recruits signed. I think it was more about on-court performance...and in this day and age, ADs are quick to pull the trigger and try somebody new. If he had continued to deliver Elite 8-type level results, no way he would have been fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duke4ever19 View Post
    I'd like to emphasize that Capel was not let go at Oklahoma because he had personally broken NCAA rules. Capel's firing was the result of an assistant trying to help a recruit with moving costs to OU. Capel was left in the dark.

    But if you want to know the real reason Capel was let go, look no further than the former OU head coach, Kelvin Sampson, who had been investigated for breaking some NCAA recruitment rules. As a result, OU basketball ended up in the NCAA crosshairs for the better part of three years.

    Oklahoma fired Capel, because they had committed to a zero-tolerance type policy. Firing Capel was a way of showing the NCAA that they were committed to steer clear of any rules violations. In my opinion, Capel was punished for Kelvin Sampson's legacy.
    Kel-vin called me: clap/clap/clap-clap-clap.

    Or was it:

    Call me Kelvin: clap/clap/clap-clap-clap.

    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

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    Hope he didn't end up taking any benefits because it would suck for him to be ineligible for the year.

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    Kentucky fans are gonna hop on the Bus of Criticism, but a couple of cheaters talking about cheating to get the most famous high school recruit of the year doesnít mean the recruit participated. Much less that one of our coachesóall of whom played for Kówould cheat.

    This seems especially unlikely given our visibility, the coaches own bright futures, and our endless stream of recruiting successes. If you can get anyone to come with you to the prom, you donít need to rent a date.

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    Kentucky was recruiting Zion very heavily too, so they should be careful before slinging mud. But the assumption being made here by many is simply that Kansas was willing to pay him, and he ended up at Duke, so why would he have come to Duke for free? Itís circumstantial but understandable that rival fan bases would be quick to jump to such conclusions.

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    Honestly, this sounds like BS to me. This guy sounds like a sales guy talking himself up. I may be wrong but I have known guys like that and it's so similar.

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