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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by rocketeli View Post
    something I notice with these reports is that guys like Kyle Singler, who played for several years in the NBA, don't always tear it up overseas, despite our idea that the NBA is the toughest, most talented league in the world. Why is that?
    You may have missed the story that developed earlier when Luka Doncic stated that scoring in the NBA had fewer obstacles than scoring in Europe.

    In Kyle's case, he was really, really rusty. NBA workouts alone can't keep you at game sharpness. His early games were very rough and then he settled in a bit and performed about as expected.

    At the higher levels of Europe, the big reason is that there is less of a talent disparity between the best players and the end of rotation players in Europe. If the best player is not having a good game, coaches will not hesitate to bench him and play a guy who is. Teams generally play more players and games are only 40 minutes. There are leagues and teams lower down the scale that do have a star player or two who is expected to carry the load, but that's generally not where the bigger names end up first.

    The translation is interesting. For instance, star players from Europe (even the Americans) often struggle in the NBA when moving in their prime, while some of the better older signings from overseas recently were guys who were role players in Europe. NBA role players or end of the bench guys going to Europe tend not to be that great immediately until they find a way to adjust.

  2. #62
    On Monday, Daniel Ewing was not in the lineup as Sibiu beat the University of Craiova 88-59 in Game 2 of the Semifinals in Romania. Isaiah Philmore had 14 points, Kevin Hardy had 13 points, 7 rebounds, and 7 assists, and Randal Falker had 12 points and 8 rebounds. In the loss, ex-Portland player Porter Troupe had 14 points and ex-DIII player Jason Boone had 10 points and 6 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/gam...easonId=106171

    Chelsea Gray and Cukurova lost to Fenerbahce 88-70 in Game 3 of the Turkish League Finals. Chelsea had 16 points and 7 assists in 28 minutes. Astou Ndour had 13 points and Kelsey Bone had 11 points and 10 rebounds. In the win, ex-Washington player Kelsey Plum had 27 points, ex-UConn player Kiah Stokes had 11 points and 15 rebounds, and WNBA player Cecilia Zandalasini had 11 points.
    Boxscore:
    http://www.tbf.org.tr/leagues/game-d...11798#ts-87103

    On Wednesday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat Gravelines-Dunkerque 95-72 to finish the regular season. DeMarcus had a quiet 12 minutes. A.J. Slaughter had 18 points, Adreian Payne had 17 points, and Livio Jean-Charles had 12 points. In the loss, ex-Stephen F. Austin player Taylor Smith had 13 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/lyo...890.html#stats

    Chelsea Gray and Cukurova had their season ended with an 80-68 loss to Fenerbahce in Game 4 of the Turkish Finals. Chelsea had 22 points and 6 assists in 35 minutes. Kelsey Bone had 11 points and 7 rebounds. In the win, Kelsey Plum had 14 points, Cecilia Zandalasini had 13 points, and ex-Rutgers player Kia Vaughn had 10 points and 7 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    http://www.tbf.org.tr/leagues/game-d...11798#ts-87103

    On Friday, Daniel Ewing was not in the lineup as Sibiu lost to the University of Craiova 81-79 in Game 3 of the Semifinals in Romania. Kevin Hardy had 23 points and 9 rebounds and Monyea Pratt had 20 points. In the win, Porter Troupe had 25 points and 7 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/gam...easonId=106171

    On Saturday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat Fos Provence 85-62. DeMarcus had 8 points in 22 minutes. Adreian Payne had 10 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/fos...897.html#stats

    Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres lost to the Dandenong Rangers 86-67. Kathleen had 7 points and 7 rebounds in 32 minutes. Izzy Chilcott had 13 points and 12 rebounds and Rachel Antoniadou had 12 points and 8 rebounds. In the win, ex-NAIA player Colleen Planeta had 13 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110899/bs.html

    On Sunday, Daniel Ewing was not in the lineup as Sibiu beat the University of Craiova 74-58 in Game 4 to advance to the Finals in Romania. Chris Cooper had 13 points and 9 rebounds, Kevin Hardy had 12 points and 11 rebounds, and Monyea Pratt had 10 points and 10 rebounds. In the loss, Porter Troupe had 22 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/gam...easonId=106171

    Kyle Singler and Obradoiro lost to Estudiantes 83-80. Kyle had 14 points in 19 minutes before fouling out. Vladimir Brodziansky had 25 points. In the win, Alessandro Gentile, who was picked 53rd in the 2014 Draft by the Minnesota Timberwolves before a draft day trade to the Houston Rockets, had 27 points and 8 rebounds and ex-Western Michigan player Shayne Whittington had 14 points and 6 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB63293.php

    While it was still Saturday night in the United States, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres beat the team representing Basketball Australia's Centre of Excellence 83-57. Kathleen had 22 points and 12 rebounds in 31 minutes. Rachel Brewster had 13 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110904/bs.html

  3. #63
    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres lost to the Bendigo Braves 80-74. Kathleen had 14 points and 9 rebounds in 32 minutes. In the win, ex-Arizona State player Becca Tobin had 21 points and 18 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110910/bs.html

    DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat LeMans 73-67 in Game 1 of the Quarterfinals in France. DeMarcus had 2 points in 19 minutes. Adreian Payne had 15 points and 7 rebounds. In the loss, ex-Kennesaw State player Kendrick Ray had 22 points and ex-William and Mary player Terry Tarpey had 12 points and 6 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/lyo...327.html#stats

    On Sunday, Kyle Singler and Obradoiro finished their season with an 83-63 loss to Barcelona. Kyle had 4 points and 6 rebounds in 23 minutes. Vladimir Brodziansky had 12 points. In the win, Adam Hanga, the 59th pick of the 2011 Draft by the San Antonio Spurs, had 17 points. Kyle finally saw regular playing time again after his NBA tenure ended and returned to the country where his professional career began, showing that he could still contribute in Spain although his team had a tough season.
    Boxscore:
    http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB63304.php

    As most overseas leagues have finished their seasons, let's take a look at where some of the players who started their careers at Duke before transferring to other schools are playing now professionally.

    Chelsea Hopkins continued her career in Israel with Maccabi Ashdod as she had another terrific season before the team fell short in the Finals.

    One player still in the middle of her season is Janee Johnson, who returned to the same league in Western Australia that she played in last year, moving teams as she players for the East Perth Eagles.

    Sierra Moore played with Alcobendas in Spain's second division, having a solid season although the team fell short in their quest to move up a division.

    Alexis Jones signed with Hatay, a strong team in Turkey, but it did not end up working out and she played the rest of the season in Israel with Ramat Hasharon.

    Azura Stevens had a good start to her overseas career in China with Hebei, but an injury cut her season short after only a handful of games and she spent the rest of the time before the WNBA season recovering.

  4. #64
    On Monday, Daniel Ewing was not in the lineup as Sibiu lost to Oradea 89-87 in Game 1 of the Finals in Romania. Isaiah Philmore had 17 points, Monyea Pratt and Randal Falker each had 16 points and 7 rebounds, and Kevin Hardy had 10 points and 9 rebounds. In the win, ex-Central MIchigan player Giordan Watson had 17 points and ex-UNC Wilmington player T.J. Carter had 11 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/gam...easonId=106171

    DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat LeMans 70-63 in Game 2 of the Quarterfinals in France to advance. DeMarcus had 6 points in 21 minutes. Adreian Payne had 11 points. In the loss, ex-Kennesaw State player Kendrick Ray had 16 points, ex-Alabama player Richard Hendrix had 11 points and 11 rebounds, and Petr Cornelie, who was picked 53rd in the 2016 Draft by the Denver Nuggets, had 10 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/le-...331.html#stats

    On Wednesday, Daniel Ewing was not in the lineup as Sibiu lost to Oradea 64-62 in Game 2 of the Finals in Romania. Kevin Hardy had 10 points and 10 rebounds. In the win, Giordan Watson had 18 points and 6 rebounds and ex-Tulane player Kris Richard had 11 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/gam...easonId=106171

    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres beat the Albury-Wodonga Bandits 83-73. Kathleen had 17 points and 10 rebounds in 34 minutes. Rachel Antoniadou had 14 points, Izzy Chilcott had 11 points and 8 rebounds, Rachel Brewster had 10 points. In the loss, ex-Ohio State player Cherise Daniel had 19 points and rookie Jessie Edwards from Minnesota had 17 points and 7 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110662/bs.html

    On Sunday, Daniel Ewing was not in the lineup as Sibiu beat Oradea 71-64 in Game 3 of the Finals in Romania. Kevin Hardy had 16 points and 7 rebounds and Randal Falker had 13 points and 8 rebounds. In the loss, Giordan Watson had 17 points and Kris Richard had 16 points and 6 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/gam...easonId=106171

    DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat Nanterre 91-72 in Game 1 of the Semifinals in France. DeMarcus had 14 points and 7 rebounds in 25 minutes. Adreian Payne had 21 points and Livio Jean-Charles had 10 points. In the loss, ex-Arizona player Nick Johnson had 18 points, ex-Miami player Julian Gamble had 12 points, and ex-Weber State player Jeremy Senglin had 11 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/lyo...339.html#stats

  5. #65
    Last Tuesday, Daniel Ewing was not in the lineup as Sibiu had their season ended with a 75-66 loss in Game 4 of the Finals against Oradea. Monyea Pratt had 15 points and 7 rebounds. In the win, ex-DII player Sean Barnette had 18 points and 6 rebounds, ex-Central Michigan player Giordan Watson had 15 points, and ex-Weber State player Arturas Valeika had 11 points. Daniel had planned on retiring after his last season, but received an offer in Romania from a team chasing a championship, which they nearly won although he found himself in and out of the lineup.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.frbaschet.ro/baschet/gam...easonId=106171

    DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat Nanterre 82-70 in Game 2 of the Semifinals in France. DeMarcus had 9 points in 28 minutes. David Lighty had 11 points and 6 rebounds. In the loss, ex-Maryland player Haukur Palsson had 18 points and ex-Arizona player Nick Johnson had 13 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/lyo...341.html#stats

    Last Friday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat Nanterre 99-56 in Game 3 to advance to the Finals. DeMarcus had 8 points in 14 minutes. A.J. Slaughter had 20 points, Livio Jean-Charles had 19 points, and Adreian Payne had 15 points. In the loss, ex-Weber State player Jeremy Senglin had 18 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/nan...343.html#stats

    As most overseas leagues have finished their seasons, let's take a look at where some of the players who started their careers at Duke before transferring to other schools are playing now professionally.

    Eric Boateng rejoined Saint-Vallier in France's third division, but had most of his season disrupted by injury, including missing the key playoff stage where the team fell short in their quest to win the playoffs for the last spot in the second division.

    Olek Czyz had a long recovery from injury, but was finally able to return to action part way through the season with Wloclawek in Poland joining them in time for a thrilling playoff run that saw them win the championship.

    Alex Murphy signed with Sznolnoki Olaj in Hungary, but an early injury kept him out for the rest of the season.

    Rasheed Sulaimon returned to France, switching teams to Levallois as he had another strong individual season despite battling an injury.

  6. #66
    Last Saturday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat his former team Monaco 81-71 in Game 1 of the Finals in France. DeMarcus had 4 points and 6 assists in 24 minutes. Livio Jean-Charles had 14 points and 7 rebounds, A.J. Slaughter had 13 points, Adreian Payne had 11 points, and David Lighty had 10 points. In the loss, ex-Georgia State player Eric Buckner had 14 points and ex-Georgia player Gerald Robinson had 13 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/lyo...349.html#stats

    Last Sunday in Australia, while it was still Saturday in the United States, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres beat the Melbourne Tigers 75-66. Kathleen had 9 points and 7 rebounds in 36 minutes. Rachel Antoniadou had 17 points, Rachel Brewster had 14 points and 7 rebounds, and Izzy Chilcott had 12 points and 9 rebounds. In the loss, ex-St. Mary's player Louella Tomlinson had 13 points and 6 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110926/bs.html

    Last Monday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne beat Monaco 73-67 in Game 2 of the Finals in France. DeMarcus had 10 points in 23 minutes before fouling out. In the loss, Eric Buckner had 15 points, Gerald Robinson had 11 points, and ex-G League player Yakuba Outtara had 10 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/lyo...350.html#stats

    On Thursday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne lost to Monaco 97-62 in Game 3 of the Finals in France. DeMarcus had 3 points in 17 minutes. In the win, ex-Mississippi State player Dee Bost had 23 points, Gerald Robinson had 12 points, and Yakuba Outtara had 11 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/mon...351.html#stats

    On Saturday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne lost to Monaco 89-81 in Game 4 of the Finals in France. DeMarcus had 18 points in 26 minutes. Adreian Payne had 11 points and David Lighty had 10 points and 9 rebounds. In the win, Dee Bost had 19 points and 6 assists, ex-UCLA player Lazeric Jones had 15 points, and Eric Buckner had 11 points and 6 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/mon...352.html#stats

    Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres beat the Kilsyth Cobras 78-71. Kathleen had 24 points and 6 rebounds in 38 minutes. Rachel Antoniadou had 17 points and 9 rebounds. In the loss, ex-San Diego player Klara Wischer had 26 points and 9 rebounds and ex-St. Mary's player Lauren Nicholson had 18 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110667/bs.html

    On Sunday in Australia, while it was still Saturday in the United States, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres lost to the Waverley Falcons 62-52. Kathleen had 9 points in 37 minutes. Rachel Brewster had 18 points and 7 rebounds. In the win, ex-Oklahoma State player Tegan Cunningham had 16 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1111186/bs.html

    On Tuesday, DeMarcus Nelson and Lyon-Villeurbanne ended the season with Game 5 of the Finals in France, beating Monaco 66-65. DeMarcus had 4 points in 23 minutes. A.J. Slaughter had 11 points. In the loss, Dee Bost and Lazeric Jones each had 13 points. It was another strong season for DeMarcus with the team as they achieved many of their goals and he is expected to remain with the team for next season.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.lnb.fr/fr/proa/match/lyo...353.html#stats

  7. #67
    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres lost to the Ringwood Hawks 78-73. Kathleen had 12 points in 38 minutes. Rachel Antoniadou had 18 points. In the win, ex-Cal Baptist player Cassidy Mihalko had 25 points and 9 rebounds and ex-DII player Megan Mullings had 12 points and 10 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1111158/bs.html

    On Sunday in Australia while it was still Saturday night in the United States, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres beat the Diamond Valley Eagles 104-74. Kathleen had 12 points and 12 rebounds in 26 minutes. Rachel Antoniadou had 18 points and Rachel Brewster had 12 points. In the loss, ex-Gonzaga player Shelby Cheslek had 22 points and 9 rebounds and ex-DII player Kayla Bretherton had 10 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110936/bs.html

  8. #68
    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres beat the Knox Raiders 101-84. Kathleen had 23 points, 7 rebounds, and 9 assists in 36 minutes. Rachel Antoniadou had 18 points and 7 rebounds. In the loss, ex-North Dakota State player Marena Whittle had 25 points and 9 rebounds and ex-DII player Maddison Wild had 18 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110672/bs.html

  9. #69
    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres lost to the Kilsyth Cobras 80-72. Kathleen had 11 points and 7 rebounds in 38 minutes. Rachel Brewster had 11 points. In the win, ex-St. Mary's player Lauren Nicholson had 32 points and 7 rebounds and ex-Stanford player Sarah Boothe had 10 points and 7 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1110939/bs.html

  10. #70
    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres lost to the Eltham Wildcats 80-73 to end the regular season. Kathleen had 18 points, 12 rebounds, and 7 in 37 minutes. Rachel Brewster had 13 points and 9 rebounds. In the win, ex-DIII player Chelsie Schweers had 18 points and ex-Virginia Tech player Vanessa Panousis had 13 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1111168/bs.html

  11. #71
    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres beat the Waverley Falcons 89-61 in the playoffs. Kathleen had 21 points, 7 rebounds, and 7 assists in 27 minutes. Rachel Antoniadou had 19 points and 7 assists. In the loss, ex-Gonzaga player Kelly Bowen had 20 points and 9 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1308877/bs.html

    It was a quick turnaround for the team on Sunday as they faced the Ringwood Hawks, winning 97-73 to advance. Kathleen had 13 points, 6 rebounds, and 7 assists in 27 minutes. In the loss, ex-DII player Megan Mullings had 29 points and 13 rebounds and ex-Cal Baptist player Cassidy Mihalko had 11 points.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1311422/bs.html

  12. #72
    On Saturday, Kathleen Scheer and the Nunawading Spectres had their season ended with an 82-59 loss to the Kilsyth Cobras. Kathleen had 12 points and 8 rebounds as she played all but 43 seconds of the game. In the win, ex-St. Mary's player Lauren Nicholson had 26 points and 8 rebounds, ex-San Diego player Klara Wischer had 20 points and 13 rebounds, and ex-Stanford player Sarah Boothe had 14 points and 20 rebounds.
    Boxscore:
    https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/NBL1/1311433/bs.html

    That concludes this season of updates. The new season will start soon.

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