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  1. #521
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingdutchdevil View Post
    Every Duke player has NBA aspirations. But if he does, he has a ton of development ahead of him.

    Joey is very one dimensional right now. I’d love to see him be a super sixth man or, even better, potential starter this year. If he achieves that, the NBA is within reach.
    I actually think Joey will play a long time in the NBA. I don't disagree that he was one dimensional last year in what should have been his freshman season, and he has a ton of room for improvement, but he's really big, he's athletic, and his best skill is shooting. Unless he turns out to be an awful defender (I don't think he will), he's going to eventually be a staple in 10 man NBA rotations for a decade. That's just how the league values shooting now.

    I'd be surprised if he doesn't become a starter at Duke by his junior year.

  2. #522
    Quote Originally Posted by Volunteer Duke View Post
    I think that quartet needs another shooter. Roach, Moore, and Johnson are not known for being great shooters.

    I think by conference play D.J. could certainly be starting.

    The lineup I want to see is Jalen, Moore, Steward, Hurt, and Brakefield. I know the likelihood is low. But that's my dream.

    Brakefield may surprise people, as should Henry. They are undervalued by the services.
    I'd love a starting 5 of Roach, Steward, Moore, Johnson, and Hurt. Offensively, that is.

    Not sure what defense would work with that group.

  3. #523
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    Quote Originally Posted by kAzE View Post
    I actually think Joey will play a long time in the NBA. I don't disagree that he was one dimensional last year in what should have been his freshman season, and he has a ton of room for improvement, but he's really big, he's athletic, and his best skill is shooting. Unless he turns out to be an awful defender (I don't think he will), he's going to eventually be a staple in 10 man NBA rotations for a decade. That's just how the league values shooting now.

    I'd be surprised if he doesn't become a starter at Duke by his junior year.
    Um, this will be Baker's junior year.

  4. #524
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Um, this will be Baker's junior year.
    Forget it, he's rolling.

  5. #525
    If KAZE can “internet board” into existence, I’m all for Baker developing into the kind of player with a 10-year NBA career.

    I’ll be astonished, but thrilled. Baker appears to have a tough guy mentality, but to me he looks a step slow on D both physically and mentally.

    Here’s to a big “junior leap” that we used to see with recruits like Joey back in the 90’s!

  6. #526
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoiseDevil View Post
    If KAZE can “internet board” into existence, I’m all for Baker developing into the kind of player with a 10-year NBA career.

    I’ll be astonished, but thrilled. Baker appears to have a tough guy mentality, but to me he looks a step slow on D both physically and mentally.

    Here’s to a big “junior leap” that we used to see with recruits like Joey back in the 90’s!
    I like Joey and his "tough-guy" attitude will get him a lot of minutes on a young team. His shooting, however, will be his meal ticket beyond Duke.
    Sage Grouse

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    'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013

  7. #527
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    Chet Holmgren releases final seven. Duke not among them.


    https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/m...al-seven-list/

  8. #528
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Chet Holmgren releases final seven. Duke not among them.


    https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/m...al-seven-list/
    According to 247, if you are a top twenty ranked recruit from the state of Minnesota, here is where you have attended college in the past 7 years:

    2020 - Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga
    2019 - Matthew Hurt, Duke
    2018 - Tre Jones, Duke
    2017 - no top 20 recruits
    2016 - no top 20 recruits
    2015 - no top 20 recruits
    2014 - Tyus Jones, Duke
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

  9. #529
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    I really wanted him because I assumed his real first name was Chester, and every school should have a Chester, but no, Chet's his real name and he can take it elsewhere.
    He DOES go to Minnehaha Academy which, contrary to rumor, is NOT a comedy club, just a private high school.

  10. #530
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    According to 247, if you are a top twenty ranked recruit from the state of Minnesota, here is where you have attended college in the past 7 years:

    2020 - Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga
    2019 - Matthew Hurt, Duke
    2018 - Tre Jones, Duke
    2017 - Gary Trent Jr., Duke
    2016 - no top 20 recruits
    2015 - no top 20 recruits
    2014 - Tyus Jones, Duke
    FIFY. I suspect you missed Gary Trent Jr. because 247 lists his hometown as Napa, CA (Prolific Prep), but he won the Minnesota Gatorade POY his junior year and he hails from Apple Valley, MN. He was the 17th rated recruit in 2017 according to 247.

  11. #531
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    Quote Originally Posted by English View Post
    FIFY. I suspect you missed Gary Trent Jr. because 247 lists his hometown as Napa, CA (Prolific Prep), but he won the Minnesota Gatorade POY his junior year and he hails from Apple Valley, MN. He was the 17th rated recruit in 2017 according to 247.
    Yup, I knew Gary was technically a Minnesota kid but I was unsure if there might be others that 247 had moved to another state that I was missing out upon so I did not think it was fair to include him. Still, Duke has pretty much owned elite recruiting in Minnesota for a while now.

    Sorta like how we owned Alaska in the late 90s and early 00s.
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

  12. #532
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Um, this will be Baker's junior year.
    Typo, I meant senior year. (I was saying in my post this past year should have been his freshman year)

  13. #533
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post

    Sorta like how we owned Alaska in the late 90s and early 00s.
    Yep. All two of them.

  14. #534
    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    Yep. All two of them.
    If Duke ever looked at elite PG and now G-Leaguer Daishen Nix, it could have been 3. He was an Alaskan but moved to Vegas for HS basketball.

  15. #535
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    Quote Originally Posted by 907bluedevils View Post
    If Duke ever looked at elite PG and now G-Leaguer Daishen Nix, it could have been 3. He was an Alaskan but moved to Vegas for HS basketball.
    Well Duke did let Mario Chalmers get away. But he was later than Langdon-prep class of 1994-and Boozer-prep class of 1999, the two Alaskans in the time frame under discussion.

  16. #536
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    According to 247, if you are a top twenty ranked recruit from the state of Minnesota, here is where you have attended college in the past 7 years:

    2020 - Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga
    2019 - Matthew Hurt, Duke
    2018 - Tre Jones, Duke
    2017 - no top 20 recruits
    2016 - no top 20 recruits
    2015 - no top 20 recruits
    2014 - Tyus Jones, Duke
    The state of Minnesota actually had three major 5-star recruits in 2014, none of which became Gophers. Tyus was the highest rated, but Rashad Vaughn, who played his last year out west, I think maybe at Findlay "Prep" before enrolling at UNLV, and Reid Travis who of course ended up at Stanford and then Kentucky, were highly regarded as well. Vaughn was top 10 on some lists, top 15 in most, and Travis was a bit lower. But both were very high major recruits.

  17. #537
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Yup, I knew Gary was technically a Minnesota kid but I was unsure if there might be others that 247 had moved to another state that I was missing out upon so I did not think it was fair to include him. Still, Duke has pretty much owned elite recruiting in Minnesota for a while now.

    Sorta like how we owned Alaska in the late 90s and early 00s.
    Oh gosh. Those were the days when Alaska used to pump out some bonafide all americans!

    Haven't heard a peep from them since. Seems like they all headed to Canada?

  18. #538
    Quote Originally Posted by Dukehk View Post
    Oh gosh. Those were the days when Alaska used to pump out some bonafide all americans!

    Haven't heard a peep from them since. Seems like they all headed to Canada?
    Mario Chalmers, who hit a famous 3 in the 2008 National Championship game for Kansas, was from Anchorage. I believe he was the last Alaskan 5-star recruit.

    I remember being a little bummed in 2006 or whenever he was a high school senior that he wasn't looking at Duke so that we could keep the Alaskan pipeline going. Alas.

  19. #539
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBenAkiva View Post
    Mario Chalmers, who hit a famous 3 in the 2008 National Championship game for Kansas, was from Anchorage. I believe he was the last Alaskan 5-star recruit.

    I remember being a little bummed in 2006 or whenever he was a high school senior that he wasn't looking at Duke so that we could keep the Alaskan pipeline going. Alas.
    We've had a few over the years, most recently Daishen Nix (5* #21 ESPN) and JT Thor (4*, was a 5* top 10 before reclass ESPN). They didn't attend HS in AK, but were here until HS, so I still consider them AK kids. A couple years ago FSU had Devon Bookert, an Alaskan kid who started for them for 1 or 2 years. Played well against Duke.

  20. #540
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    Chet Holmgren is someone's real name?

    It sounds like a name I'd give when the cops showed up to a party back in high school

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