View Poll Results: What will be the result of the Midterms (vote twice!!)

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  • GOP holds the House

    7 14.58%
  • Dems win the House by less than 12 seats

    20 41.67%
  • Dems win the House by 12-25 seats

    12 25.00%
  • Dems win the House by 25-38 seats

    7 14.58%
  • Dems win the House by 38+ seats

    1 2.08%
  • GOP gains 1 or more seats in the Senate (52-48 or more)

    29 60.42%
  • GOP holds the same number of seats in the Senate (51-49)

    7 14.58%
  • GOP loses seats but still holds the Senate (50-50 with Pence breaking tie)

    7 14.58%
  • Dems win the Senate (49-51 or more)

    2 4.17%
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  1. #1661
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattman91 View Post
    Make it end already!
    Election cycles are the Möbius strips of life in America.
    1991 -- 1992 -- 2001 -- 2010 -- 2015

  2. #1662
    Quote Originally Posted by Indoor66 View Post
    You either follow the law as written or you have no law. It is a simple reality. There is no "wiggle room" in a clearly stated deadline. If you don't like it, go to the Legislature which set the rule. It is not for others to create "wiggle room" on their own. We have the same problem administering other law as well.
    Courts ignore missed deadlines all the time.

  3. #1663
    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    Courts ignore missed deadlines all the time.
    That doesn't mitigate the incompetent performance. Courts can put on an equity hat to correct the incompetent performance.

  4. #1664
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoor66 View Post
    That doesn't mitigate the incompetent performance. Courts can put on an equity hat to correct the incompetent performance.
    This sounds suspiciously like it is veering off into a sports thread. If it degenerates into a minutes discussion I'm leaving.

  5. #1665
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    Quote Originally Posted by camion View Post
    This sounds suspiciously like it is veering off into a sports thread. If it degenerates into a minutes discussion I'm leaving.
    Someone mentions Lenny Wirtz, and we're talking incompetent AND biased.
    1991 -- 1992 -- 2001 -- 2010 -- 2015

  6. #1666
    Quote Originally Posted by Indoor66 View Post
    That doesn't mitigate the incompetent performance. Courts can put on an equity hat to correct the incompetent performance.
    Agreed. And as a lawyer (thankfully not a litigator) who represents big bad corporations, I know that neither I nor my clients will ever get leeway.

    Just noting for those following along at home that courts often find ways to outsized consequences for narrowly missed deadlines.

  7. #1667
    Quote Originally Posted by camion View Post
    This sounds suspiciously like it is veering off into a sports thread. If it degenerates into a minutes discussion I'm leaving.
    All we need now is an NC State fan to wander in here and mention how the refs have it out for them.

    "Hi, I'm from NC State and I'm here to complain about the refs".

    /thread

  8. #1668
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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    Agreed. And as a lawyer (thankfully not a litigator) who represents big bad corporations, I know that neither I nor my clients will ever get leeway.

    Just noting for those following along at home that courts often find ways to outsized consequences for narrowly missed deadlines.
    As a litigator, I can tell you:

    You spend three years in law school with professors telling you that it does not matter what is "fair," what matters is whether it is the "law."

    Then if you have a trial practice, you spend the rest of your career realizing how false that statement really is when it comes to the real world.


    Some deadlines are jurisdictional in nature and if you miss it, there is nothing that can be done. Most, however, can be worked around with sufficient equity and groveling on your side.
    1991 -- 1992 -- 2001 -- 2010 -- 2015

  9. #1669
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    One deadline that never gets missed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_IT622Sbc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostondevil View Post
    One deadline that never gets missed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3_IT622Sbc
    Thomas Hill's expression still gives me goose bumps after all these years.
    1991 -- 1992 -- 2001 -- 2010 -- 2015

  11. #1671
    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    Some deadlines are jurisdictional in nature and if you miss it, there is nothing that can be done. Most, however, can be worked around with sufficient equity and groveling on your side.
    ...and at least a good faith effort at meeting the deadline.

  12. #1672
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    Quote Originally Posted by PackMan97 View Post
    ...and at least a good faith effort at meeting the deadline.
    Yup. Or excusable neglect for missing it.
    1991 -- 1992 -- 2001 -- 2010 -- 2015

  13. #1673
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    Thomas Hill's expression still gives me goose bumps after all these years.
    Well, then maybe you should change your avatar

    I don't know what you are doing right now, but if you aren't listening to the DBR Podcast, you're doing it wrong.

  14. #1674
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Well, then maybe you should change your avatar

    "Must spread comments . . . ."

    Isn't there a poster named WeepingThomasHill?
    1991 -- 1992 -- 2001 -- 2010 -- 2015

  15. #1675
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    In Georgia, Abrams preparing for possible court challenge to the election:

    https://www.apnews.com/7985be43fa4c4422bfece25cb0204307

    Take that, Florida. We'll see your recount, and raise you a do-over.

    (it's a joke, not a comment on the merits)
    Abrams might be better served to concede on this one and run for the next Senate seat.

  16. #1676
    Quote Originally Posted by BandAlum83 View Post
    Abrams might be better served to concede on this one and run for the next Senate seat.
    Yeah - this seems like a nuclear option that there's no coming back from. That said, this is an utterly predictable outcome of a contentious election when the person overseeing it is also running in it.

  17. #1677
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    Abrams has conceded.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

  18. #1678
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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Abrams has conceded.
    That's the right move at this juncture. Gillum would be wise to follow suit. IMHO in both cases, of course.

  19. #1679
    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Abrams has conceded.
    She's not conceding.

    Stacey Abrams said her speech bowing out of the gubernatorial race was not one of concession. A concession speech would have indicated she agreed with how the election was carried out and its outcome, she said.

    Instead, she announced that she was bowing out of the race knowing that the interim Secretary of State was poised to certify election results declaring Brian Kemp the winner. Abrams said she realized there were no more legal options to stop that from happening.

    link: https://politics.myajc.com/blog/poli...6bILeyuBn7z8K/
    Last edited by gus; Yesterday at 05:30 PM. Reason: forgot link

  20. #1680
    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Abrams has conceded.
    One thing she did not do was concede. She did acknowledge that Kemp will be the next Governor.

    "So let's be clear -- this is not a speech of concession, because concession means to acknowledge an action is right, true or proper," she said. "As a woman of conscience and faith, I cannot concede that. But, my assessment is the law currently allows no further viable remedy. Now, I can certainly bring a new case to keep this one contest alive, but I don't want to hold public office if I need to scheme my way into the post. Because the title of governor isn't nearly as important as our shared title -- voters. And that is why we fight on."

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