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    NBA off-season stuff (free agents, coaching changes, trades)

    Let this thread be the home for free agent talk and other off-season activities (excluding the draft, which will have a thread of its own).

    We will get the action started with this...

    The Raptors just fired Dwayne Casey...

    He won NBA Coach of the Year 2 days ago.
    Last edited by JasonEvans; 05-11-2018 at 11:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Let this thread be the home for free agent talk and other off-season activities (excluding the draft, which will have a thread of its own).

    We will get the action started with this...

    The Raptors just fired Dwayne Casey...

    He won NBA Coach of the Year 2 days ago.
    So who are the Raptors gonna hire that will be better than Casey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kAzE View Post
    So who are the Raptors gonna hire that will be better than Casey?
    Roy Williams

    In all seriousness, they could make a run at Jay Wright (I still don't think he'll go, but a much better chance than going to the Knicks). More likely, they go with some mediocre former NBA head coach that has had umpteen chances and failed to produce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kAzE View Post
    So who are the Raptors gonna hire that will be better than Casey?
    Steve Nash. Jay Triano. Dustin Triano. Greg Newton. Scotty Bowman.

    Lots of possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Let this thread be the home for free agent talk and other off-season activities (excluding the draft, which will have a thread of its own).

    We will get the action started with this...

    The Raptors just fired Dwayne Casey...

    He won NBA Coach of the Year 2 days ago.
    And the Coach with no votes is considered the best in the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kAzE View Post
    So who are the Raptors gonna hire that will be better than Casey?
    Apparently Jerry Stackhouse is a candidate. I'm not making that up.

    I mean, I *wouldn't* make that up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukelifer View Post
    And the Coach with no votes is considered the best in the NBA.
    Gregg Popovich says hi (love Brad though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matches View Post
    Apparently Jerry Stackhouse is a candidate. I'm not making that up.

    I mean, I *wouldn't* make that up...
    They should hire the best player in the history of the franchise**

    VINSANITY!!


    -Jason "**-Ok, Chris Bosh might be the best Raptor of all time, there is a pretty good debate between him and Carter... but still" Evans
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    Quote Originally Posted by kAzE View Post
    So who are the Raptors gonna hire that will be better than Casey?
    They might promote from within. It was really assistant coach Nick Nurse that re-designed the Raptors offense (Zach Lowe article), following GM Ujiri's directive to change the culture. The re-design led to the Raptors winning 59 games and actually doing a good job scoring on Cleveland in the playoffs, as they put up offensive ratings of 114, 121, 114, and 100 in the sweep. [The 100 in game 4 is arguably the result of demoralized surrender, after losing Game 3 at the buzzer].

    It was really Toronto's complete inability to guard Cleveland that resulted in the sweep, and since defense is Casey's calling card, I can see why this move was made. I'm still surprised it happened, but I see the logic in it, and Ujiri is well-regarded as an excellent GM who deserves the benefit of the doubt. There will be tons of articles blasting Toronto for firing the COY, but ultimately Casey was receiving too much credit for a culture change whose impetus was provided by the GM and whose implementation was done by an assistant coach.

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    I think a lot of times teams fire their coaches just because they need to change SOMETHING, even if the coach isnít the problem. Which is dumb, but it happens all the time. The Raptors have been committed to their Lowry/Derozan core for years and this was their best shot at making a run. They had a fantastic regular season but then crashed and burned again versus the Cavs. So they canít just do the exact same thing all over again next year, because the fans wonít have that kind of patience. And they donít want to get rid of Lowry or Derozan. The only thing left to do is fire their coach.

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    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by phaedrus View Post
    Steve Nash. Jay Triano. Dustin Triano. Greg Newton. Scotty Bowman.

    Lots of possibilities.
    Good list. If they wait a month, they can hire Barry Trotz after he wins the Stanley Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MChambers View Post
    Good list. If they wait a month, they can hire Barry Trotz after he wins the Stanley Cup.
    You must mean Paul Maurice.

    More seriously, the Bucks' list of candidates supposedly includes Steve Clifford, Mike Budenholzer, Monty Williams, David Fizdale, David Blatt, and of course, Becky Hammon. Ettore Messina and Nick Nurse have also been mentioned. Some of these names could be in play for the Raptors as well.

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    "It's easier to fire the coach, then fire the players."

    The Epic of Gilgamesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matches View Post
    Apparently Jerry Stackhouse is a candidate. I'm not making that up.

    I mean, I *wouldn't* make that up...
    Stackhouse was an assistant for the Raptors and has coached their G League team the last two years to get head coaching experience, winning coach of the year his first year (see how far winning coach of the year gets you). So he is somewhat legit.

    I think the Knicks are now feeling some remorse for hurrying out to hire Fizdale when Casey might have been a better fit.

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    It's not like this is the first time the COY has been fired. Forum favorite George Karl also has this dubious honor.

    They made Casey the scapegoat as it's definitely easier to fire the coach than retool a team, which has a number of questionable contracts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncexnyc View Post
    which has a number of questionable contracts.
    The Raptors are capped out until at least 2020.

    They have 2 more years of Lowry at $64 mil total, 3 more years of DeRozan at $27.7 mil a season, they've got Ibaka for $44 mil over the next 2 years, and they owe $33 mil to Valanciunas for the next 2 seasons. But, perhaps most incredibly, Norman Powell will be getting $10 mil a year for the next 3 seasons. Feel free to use your google to look up Norman Powell... I know I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    ... perhaps most incredibly, Norman Powell will be getting $10 mil a year for the next 3 seasons. Feel free to use your google to look up Norman Powell... I know I did.

    ...
    My guess was the adopted child of Norman Schwarzkopf and Colin Powell.

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    I am very curious to see whether Becky Hammon gets serious consideration for a head coaching job. Five years ago, I would have said this was impossible and ill advised.Now, I'm saying that she should be judged on the merits and that she could well be the right choice for an NBA team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phaedrus View Post
    You must mean Paul Maurice.

    More seriously, the Bucks' list of candidates supposedly includes Steve Clifford, Mike Budenholzer, Monty Williams, David Fizdale, David Blatt, and of course, Becky Hammon. Ettore Messina and Nick Nurse have also been mentioned. Some of these names could be in play for the Raptors as well.
    Contrary to a post made elsewhere on this forum, she apparently can coach NBA basketball.

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    So I guess the other coaches gave him coy because they realized this was in the works and either wanted to make it harder to fire him or send a message that they thought he got a raw deal. Stevens doesn't need any help

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